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Bacon Porn...

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Hmm next time I'll ask my butcher for fatty meat from cow's belly, will c where that gets me. And y hav we stopped posting in politics forums.

Because there is nothing happening in the real world right now. Seriously. I have to prepare a quick fire debate for Monday and there is nothing.

I can't think of a single meat which is best well done unless it's infected.

I cannot imagine chicken tasting too good. I know we cook it to protect against samonella, but it just feels icky. I can handle most meats raw, but chicken is just urrrrgh.

I like my chicken medium to medium well. no harm in a little pink there. Was once served it with the blood still flowing in France... that was a step too far, beef sure.. but the texture of still bloody chicken is just wrong.
For the record, no meat is served with the blood still flowing. All it is is water that has been dyed red by the resisdue in the meat. Given the way animals are slaughtered, and then hung up after slaughter, it would be pretty much impossible for there to be remaining blood.
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Sad this forum was moved. I don't think it will get as much play in the spam forum. I do understand though, it is spam.

 

Undercooked chicken may be fine in Europe, but if you have ever seen an American factory farm, you would never eat raw chicken. Chicken farms are the most crowded and unsanitary conditions around. The life of a chicken is much more horrible than a milk fed veal or a fois gras goose could ever imagine. Pigs used to be the dirty animals in America, now it is chicken due to sanitation and overcrowding, and wild game due to the readily available garbage they eat.

Game is hung for quite a long time before being eaten. So the blood will drain out.

 

As for chicken in Europe, its probably as bad if not worse than the USA. We have banned battery farming so all chickens are barn reared. This does nothing to reduce the number of chicken per square foot. In fact you can tell the condition of our chickens by the fact that many have burns on the backs of their legs which can be seen when they are on display in the supermarket.n This is a sign that they have fallen over and sat on the floor for a while (which shouldn't happen to a healthy bird) as the floor is covered in an alkaline substance to kill germs.

What is this madness...

 

 

Madness?!?!? THIS.... IS..... BACON....!

 

EDIT: I see that this was said already. It doesn't matter. It fits so well, that twice, is twice as nice.

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Chicken farms are indeed horrible places, but the ever-growing demand for food necessitates the industrialization of animal breeding. I don't really know what a good solution would be...

Chicken farms are indeed horrible places, but the ever-growing demand for food necessitates the industrialization of animal breeding. I don't really know what a good solution would be...

 

 

Not really. The worst aspects of factory farms aren't there because it's the only way to produce enough food in the given space, but rather to enable megacorporations to make the most money in the least space and the lowest overhead. Chickens can be farmed at around (relatively) happily at 2500 a hectacre. Thats every chicken in the world in just under 30k square miles. Roughly 0.1% of the habitable area of the earth (Possibly less surface area then I lost by rounding pi.) 55 times the area that would be used in current factory farms (0.8 square feet per bird) but far from undoable.

 

A general cutting back in meat consumption would help as well. Not as if most of the world doesn't eat WAY too much anyways.

 

 

Fun fact:. You can pull together a meal for 3 with a few cups of flour, left over mushrooms, leftover greens, a tin of lentils, 1 orange, a few pantry staples (assorted herbs and spices, olive oil, yeast mayo, etc) and do it in less than an hour.

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Tbh, I Really do not know why people eat so much meat. I just bought two weeks of food and didn't realise until I was done there was no meal with meat in it.

 

This conversation reminds me of an incident with someone in my first year of uni. I was preparing some venison (deer) and she had a massive go at me for being so cruel as to eat deer. As she was having this go at me she was taking cheap chicken (aka battery farmed) out of the fridge. Kind of pissed me off a lot that one.

Industrialised farming of livestock is responsible for the vast maority of drug resistant baceria (excluding those recent additions grown in south east asia annd India where the drugs are horribly miss managed / miss used.) In the ideal world we'd all hunt our own meat, but that's truely unsustainable (courtesy of humans being greedy ****ers) unless we want to eat rabit once a week the rest of our lives. If you want to intensively farm in a "safe" way which doesn't eed antibacterials, it's all about the multi-story.

Tbh, I Really do not know why people eat so much meat. I just bought two weeks of food and didn't realise until I was done there was no meal with meat in it.

 

This conversation reminds me of an incident with someone in my first year of uni. I was preparing some venison (deer) and she had a massive go at me for being so cruel as to eat deer. As she was having this go at me she was taking cheap chicken (aka battery farmed) out of the fridge. Kind of pissed me off a lot that one.

 

 

That's because people think deer and go "AHH YOU'RE EATING BAMBI!

One cold Sunday morning I was walking down my road and encountered a fully antlered stag. It was at that point I realised that despite being magestic and impressive that thing has like a bazillion spears coming out of its head

 

 

Not really surprising. Pigs can be vicious as **** and will eat anything they can get at. Staying still near a bunch of hungry pigs for any length of time is a Bad Idea.

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