... Ah. So it was EM and CoD huh. Damn. You really did have me fooled CoD :-/ Good game.

 

-Preston

Since it's done with at this point, I'll throw it out: I was the cop this game. I investigated EM on night 1, saw him as scum. From that I drew that CoD *must* be town because EM was voting for him, since I thought he wouldnt vote for a scum buddy on day 1. 

 

Knowing EM was scum, I waited a while on day 2 until I saw who he pushed for - and hence concluded Imran was town along with CoD, since whoever EM voted for had to be town. Thats why I suddenly shifted suspicion to EM on day 2, figuring Imran and CoD had to be innocent - and why I was saying it could not be BOTH CoD and someone, since I knew EM was scum. 

 

But it seems CoD *was* scum... which pulled the premise out from under a lot of my analysis :-/

 

I didnt want to roleclaim on day 2 even though I had a positive match, since not knowing if we had a doc would keep me from investigating on night 2 if they killed me. I investigated Martino on night 2, proved he was town. 

 

When EM fakeclaimed at the start of today, I figured he HAD to have investigated me last night and saw I was the cop - but I didnt want to immediately claim, again. Perhaps I should have... ah well. First time with an actual power role for me :-p

 

-Preston

One more addendum: the reason i was looking for roleclaims from other town was to hope that we DID have a doc or jailer, so that I could 'safely' claim and not be the only power role out there. A doc would've been helpful... but if I was choosing between Rafay and Xarastier and one turned up not town, we would have lynched the other... and that'd be game over anyway since it looks like CoD was it. Bah. 

 

I guess in retrospect we might have hope... if we DO have a doctor or jailer among those of us left and they can block the night kill, then we know it's EM and CoD for tomorrow. If we dont block... then it's game over. 

 

-Preston

Bleh, sometimes its annoying you cant edit posts! Just one more addendum then I'm done.

 

Martino/Rafay/Xarastier - if any of you is a doc or a jailer, DONT claim now! If you're a doc, block someone else and hope you get lucky. If you're a jailer, then you can block either EM or CoD and hope with 50% odds you blocked the right one. If we dont have either and I was the only power role, then town has no means to prevent a scum win at this stage. 

 

It's funny... CoD could have gone along with lynching EM today, and then had us lynch either Rafay or xarastier tomorrow - and noone would have really suspected him. He tipped his hand by hammering today the way he did, a little earlier than a 100% assured win. I'll be quite amused if we DO manage to block a night kill tonight and now know exactly who the scum are for tomorrow. 

 

-Preston

Yes, if you do block the kill it will be quite annoying. However if EM had been lynched, I stood a chance but not an amazing one. It would have come down to you would investigate one tonight, and if there was a jailer then they would jail the other one. I would have then night killed Preston, setting up whichever one you investigated for a lynch. However, there is also the possibility that there was a doctor, which would have made it quite difficult. As it is, I like our chances.

Also you were right Preston, we found out you were a cop 2 nights ago, (didn't want to kill you last night cause it would have guaranteed a lynch on EM), and last night we found the other power role. So its an even smaller chance that they will block the night kill than you may have thought.

Well I guess the cat is officially out of the bag now   Good game everyone.  

Wth. There is no way we should have lost this game. Certainly not today already.

You haven't lost quite yet. Tonight will decide the game.

Hm. Well your having found the other power role and us still having a chance at ALL would mean that it's a jailer instead of a doc, and their only chance is to jail one of you two and play the 50% odds game since they cant protect themselves. Leaves things quite up to chance!

 

Also, I'm curious - objectively, do you all think I should have roleclaimed on day 2 when I'd found EM on night 1? I was hoping to swing votes that way without claiming, so that I could investigate SOMEONE on night 2... I figured that a day 2 claim would all but guarantee me being killed on night 2. 

 

I probably could/should have claimed earlier in the day today after EM fakeclaimed, but I figured doing so immediately would weaken my position.

 

Really, the main thing that threw me off was EM's going with CoD on day 1... very misleading indeed. Well played. 

 

-Preston

@Preston: Night 2 I realized you were the cop. In hindsight I should have figured it out during D2. However, for most of D2 I was absolutely convinced that Imran was our cop. Since he completely switched his opinion around during the night, I was convinced that he got a scum result on CoD. However, I did not want to force him to claim since I figured CoD should be a clear lynch anyway (which I still believe he should have been). It was only when he got into trouble and still refused to claim that I figured he was not the cop. However, that unfortunately lead me to conclude thate CoD and Imran were scum together.

 

Anyway, I think I would not have claimed in your position either. If you had been nightkilled, it would have been extremely obvious that you got a guilty result on EM, so no information would be lost. This way you at least had a chance to get in another investigation. 

 

Still can't believe they lynched you though. EM claimed three investigations in two nights, that was pointed out, and still people followed him. After I read EM's explanation, I really wanted to quote it and post "OMG ... we took our dog ... uhm ... like to the fish shop today ... because the dog likes going out and meeting new people. (http://diablowned.com/ for those that don't get the reference.).  However, I figured whoever was scum with EM might actually follow him on that defense and expose himself. 

Yeah I have no idea why Rafay and Xarastier followed EM. I was preparing myself for the 1 v 3 game that was going to be our next day, but they both voted for Preston so I figured I'd go for it.

Votecount 3.03

Electric Mango (0) -
Rafay (0) -
Xarastier (0) -
Martino (0) -
Preston (4) - Electric Mango, Rafay, Xarastier, Chaplain of death
Chaplain of death (0) -

Not Voting (2) - Martino, Preston

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
Deadline is Wednesday, April 24, 2013 @ 22:33 EDT

 
Preston [Triceratops], Sane Cop, was lynched on Day 3
 
Rafay [Tyrannosaurus Rex], Vanilla Townie, was killed in endgame
Xarastier [Archaeopteryx], Vanilla Townie, was killed in endgame
Martino [Deinonychus], Vanilla Townie, was killed in endgame

Electric Mango, [sinornithosaurus], Mafia Role Cop, won in endgame
Chaplain of death, [Parasaurolophus], Mafia Goon, won in endgame

 

DINO MAFIA END

Roles
Chaplain of death - Mafia Goon
Electric Mango - Mafia Role Cop
Preston - Sane Cop
KevinH - Vanilla Townie
killgor - Vanilla Townie
Imran Ehsan- Vanilla Townie
Martino - Vanilla Townie
Rafay - Vanilla Townie
Xarastier - Vanilla Townie
 
Quick Topics
Mafia: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/G2Rz72AbrwyRh
The Dead: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/JAbVkdLGWpm
 
Game Events
 
Day 1:
No lynch
 
Night 1:
Chaplain of death night kills KevinH
Electric Mango investigates Preston
Preston investigates Electric Mango
 
Day 2:
Imran Ehsan is lynched
 
Night 2:
Chaplain of death night kills killgor
Electric Mango investigates Rafay
Preston investigates Martino
 
Day 3:
Preston is lynched
Chaplain of death and Electric Mango win

Edited April 15, 201313 yr by Kaziocore

I think everyone especially the newbies should learn from this game
 
1) Meta tells can be unreliable. The mafia has more incentive to act and copy his previous play style as town.

It also doesn't mean that when a player changes his play style, he's automatically scummy.
 
2) Before voting, check whether it's LYLO or MYLO. For example, if it takes 4 players to lynch a player in LYLO or MYLO
and there are still 2 mafia players, then make sure you make allowances for scum to quick hammer.
You only need two townie players to vote for one townie player for two scum to quick hammer.
 
3) No lynching is terribad. Don't argue
 
4) Don't immediately believe a player's role claim especially if it's LYLO or MYLO.
 
5) Well if you're a power role (e.g. cop, doctor) and you're going to role claim in LYLO or MYLO,
be prepared for a possible counter claim by the mafia. It could go wrong horribly.
 
6) Please only vote if you think someone is scummy not because you hate how long he posts :|
 
7) Please don't sheep. Smart people can still be wrong. But if you're stubbornly want to sheep someone,
personally I'd sheep Martino Though you're screwed if he's scum.
 
8) Please don't vote just because the majority votes for a person. A billion people can still be wrong.

 

9) Don't be afraid to vote for someone even though it's still days before the deadline.

And it doesn't stop when you put your vote on someone. You should make a case

and convince everyone he's scum.

 

10) Learn to compromise.

 

11) If two players are fighting and you think one of them is townie, it does not necessarily mean

that the other one is automatically scum. You should also check whether it's Townie vs Townie
 
Still, it was exciting moderating this game. I think Martino and Preston did a great job.
I hope you guys could join with as more frequently
 
Congrats to the mafia. lol good job Chaplain of death. I think even if EM was lynched,
the candidates for tomorrow's lynch would either be Rafay or Xarastier and if you
claimed as doctor, no one would dare question it (maybe Martino?)
 
Rafay and Xarastier need to improve more with their game.
 
It's too bad that Imran Ehsan was busy but I think he would have done more
if he was more active.
 
lol at KevinH for still advocating a No Lynch even though it was proven
by many players who played this setup that No Lynching is terrible.

 

Hey killgor! Was it lonely up there in dino heaven

If I was scum, my top priority is to kill Martino

 

Anyone wants to mod a game?

Edited April 15, 201313 yr by Kaziocore

I just want to say....

 

 

I told you so!!!

 

 

good game.

Ah I was wrong. I thought Rafay was a power role because Electric told me he would say Rafay's name in his first post if he was a power role lol. Okay then.

Also, we wanted to kill Martino, but it would have set me up for a lynch if we did it night 1. and same thing really on night 2 really.  Night 2 we realized Preston was a cop, so we decided to weaken his support by killing Killgor who was pretty much following your lead. Having Martino alive when he believed me to be townie was fine at that point anyway.

Also you got mine and Electric's roles backwards. I was the goon and Electric was our role cop.

If you gave me a quick explanation on how to run the game more smoothly in PM Kazio I could be convinced to admin one so that I can laugh at you and kevin arguing about day 1 no-lynching.

Also, we wanted to kill Martino, but it would have set me up for a lynch if we did it night 1. and same thing really on night 2 really.  Night 2 we realized Preston was a cop, so we decided to weaken his support by killing Killgor who was pretty much following your lead. Having Martino alive when he believed me to be townie was fine at that point anyway.

Night 2/Start of Day 3, I was actually not convinced you were a townie at all. However, having jumped high and low for two straight days to try and get you lynched, I figured it would be more productive to focus on the other scum first. That being said, after Rafay voted Preston I figured he must be the second scum. So had Xarastier not voted Preston and had you nightkilled Preston, I most likely would have lynched Rafay the next day.