It's a Wine In Front Of Me situation.

 

D3mon remains my candidate of choice.

I'll read these posts tomorrow

Less than a week to go.

No-lynch is not an option.

It's unusually quiet lately. I'm ready to vote but Im waiting for some other people to chime in first. I feel like there are just a few of us doing most of the conversation.

Indeed, just a few.

To be determined

No-lynch is not an option

Let's discuss something

 

I don't play the game to lie low. As a townie, if I am not being suspicious then I am not playing right. I tried to make the best of day 1 with very little and unfortunately didn't get it right. Anyhow, if I was scum then I wouldn't take out Robert.. It would've been someone who was suspicious of me already or one of the most experienced players. The fact that all the experienced folks are still out there means at least one of the following is scum

 

a ) Kazio

b ) Kevin

c ) EM

 

Also, imho anyone who is trying to maintain a low profile is suspicious. Based on that criteria, the most likely scum at this time would be (maybe I am missing something but didn't see enough content from a senior player, which is odd)

 

a ) Kazio

b ) Montosh

c ) Rafay

 

But that's just me. As the saying goes "the nail that sticks out gets hammered", I just don't see it ending well for the town.

I just have to say this. If I'm scum and KevinH is town, I wouldn't night kill KevinH

 

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Let me comment on stuff that I missed

 

EM + Kevin vs. Lyner + Kaz

 

Imran + (maybe Robert) vs. Rafay.

 

Just making notes on the "teams" as I see them sorta forming up.

 

I agree with others though, Rafay hasn't been posting much content. This could just be apathy, it could be scummy, though it's probably not inactivity(he came out the moment he was called out, though that could be a coincidence).

 

But, a little pressure never hurt anyone.

 

Vote: Rafay

 

Care to share any thoughts on the game Rafay?

Just another reason why it's meaningless to guess a scum group when no scum player has flipped.

Lyner turned up as town but it doesn't mean KevinH and EM are scum.

 

Kazio is pushing still on Kevin, but seems mildly wishy washy in next post.

I have to comment on this. I'm not sure why Robert said I was wishy washy here.

It goes without saying that this would be suspicious if Lyner came out as scum and

I wanted to announce to everyone that I approve of the wagon.

 

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Okay I'll set aside my suspicion on KevinH first because right now my biggest suspect is Imran Ehsan

 

For most part of D1, he didn't do anything substantial or something.

#18 - like wtf his reason for voting Lyner is because he frequently plays as scum.

#25 - another fluff post

 

When the wagon formed between Electic Mango and KevinH, he never commented the merits of both wagons.

Based on our meta, I think, people suspect the players who lynch the town on D1. Maybe he's afraid to choose a side because of this.

 

#76 - I don't like his justification for voting Lyner here. Also note that he still didn't comment anything regarding the wagon that formed

 

In the other group we have both EM and Kazio pushing for a Kevin lynch with Kazio being fine with a Lyner lynch as well. kazio looking scummy. So one group or the other are scum.

 

there is a possibility that Rafay/Mon-tosh are scum as well but Rafay has refused to post anything substantial to judge on and Mon-tosh got townie points when he unvoted kevin at L-1. unless kevin+mon-tosh is the scum team...hhmmm...

Explain why I'm scummy. Also, just think that if I am scum, why would I say I'm okay with lynching Lyner when he will turn up as town

and knowing the meta, people will eventually use this excuse to lynch a player on D2.

 

Also if you find that Rafay has refused to post anything substantial, isn't that worthy of a vote?

Why did you leave your vote on Lyner and not switch it to Rafay?

 

Also you stated that all votes on D1 are "random" anyway, why use votes as a reason for suspecting someone?

 

#160 - Also I don't buy your reason for suspecting both d3mon and I. 

So was there an actual game where scum planned and said to one another to be the 2nd vote in a wagon?

Also, why did you find the 2nd vote in a wagon suspicious but not say, the third one.

Also why not a combination of the 2nd vote in the first wagon and the 3rd vote in the second wagon and vice versa.

This looks arbitrary and it seems that you're just finding a reason to pair the two of us.

If you suspected solely on this without taking into account the motivation for our vote

(for example I voted KevinH to finish RVS and move the game forward), I would say this is a bit forced.

Vote: Imran Ehsan

 

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My list in order of Townie JuJu:

• Electric Mango Almost got lynched
• Montosh Took me off L-1
• Imran Ehsan Didn't vote for either
• Rafay Didn't vote for either
• d3mon 1st on Electric Mango and last off
• Robert2424 Put 3rd vote on Electric Mango
• Lyner Put me at L-1
• Kaziocore Put 3rd vote on me and kept it there

 

Okay I have a crazy idea right now. Maybe KevinH is townie after all and scum is taking advantage of

KevinH's most likely wrong assumption that people who voted between EM and especially him is scum.

 

Lyner is dead and Robert2424 was killed so it's logical that I and d3mon will be suspected (though I'm not saying d3mon is also townie).

 

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My second suspect is probably Rafay just to let everyone know.

Also, sorry for the reply. I was busy with work :V

Also if I'm scum and KevinH is town, it wouldn't make sense to vote for KevinH

knowing that he automatically suspects people who vote for him :/

An interesting analysis but a fairly one-sided one considering if some1 was convincing all others to pile on a guy.

 

Will be interesting to see Imran's rebuttal to this though as they are quite tuff accusations.......

Loved your analysis Kazio. With your experience I expect more WoTs from you

 

Going back through the posts, I have to agree with your suspicion on Imran but I still believe that if fluff posts were considered as a scum tell then Rafay should lead the list of suspects. He is definitely not inactive but has tried his best to stay away from the limelight.

I understand that some of us believe that since he hammered a townie, he must not be scum but that does not give him any townie points in my book.

 

Vote: Rafay

lol

 

i dont have much time now so i will properly read and respond to Kazios post later.

 

but i expected a vote on me from kazio. i vote for kazio and suddenly out of the blue i become the prime scum suspect for kazio with him pulling out references from here and there...LOL...if thats not a scummy move i dont know what is.

 

He is not trying to find the actual scum, he is trying to get the guy who suspects him lynched.

Vote Count

Rafay (1) - d3mon

Electric Mango (0) - 

Montosh (0) - 

Kaziocore (1) - Imran Ehsan

Imran Ehsan (1) - Kaziocore

KevinH (0) - 

d3mon (1) - KevinH

 

Not Voting (3) - Rafay, Electric Mango, Montosh

 

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to reach majority and 2 to reach half-majority.

d3mon is the current wagon leader at L-3

Deadline is Saturday, 1 November 2014, 23:00:00 EST

Edited October 29, 201411 yr by Preston

My rebuttal in yellow.

 

 

 Okay I'll set aside my suspicion on KevinH first because right now my biggest suspect is Imran Ehsan

 
For most part of D1, he didn't do anything substantial or something.
#18 - like wtf his reason for voting Lyner is because he frequently plays as scum.
#25 - another fluff post

 

Thats a very lame argument and it just shows how deep you have to dig to make a case against me. EVERYONE in pages 1-4 have been posting fluff. Because..duh..its Day 1 and people are RV ing left and right. Do you want me to dig out the number of fluff posts you made on Day 1? Real voting and bandwagoning really started from page 5 and for some reason my posts onwards from there have been completely ignored by you..what happened? you couldnt find any more fluff posts? i thought one of the major accusations from you is I am posting fluffs? why do you only have to dig out my posts from Pg 1 and Pg 2 then? what happened to my later posts?
 
When the wagon formed between Electic Mango and KevinH, he never commented the merits of both wagons.
Based on our meta, I think, people suspect the players who lynch the town on D1. Maybe he's afraid to choose a side because of this.

 

No. I suspected Lyner more than EM and Kazio on Day 1. I am now scummy because I didnt jump on a bandwagon to lynch 2 of the most experienced players of the game on Day 1 when noone except scum knows anything? Seems like you would have been happier if I participated in a lynch that was a bandwagon and now you are somehow trying to paint me as scum because the bandwagons failed?
 
#76 - I don't like his justification for voting Lyner here. Also note that he still didn't comment anything regarding the wagon that formed

 

No one except scum knows nothing. Statistically speaking Lyner had more probability of being scum and I didnt notice anyone else acting more scummy on Day 1 to switch my vote.
 

In the other group we have both EM and Kazio pushing for a Kevin lynch with Kazio being fine with a Lyner lynch as well. kazio looking scummy. So one group or the other are scum.
 
there is a possibility that Rafay/Mon-tosh are scum as well but Rafay has refused to post anything substantial to judge on and Mon-tosh got townie points when he unvoted kevin at L-1. unless kevin+mon-tosh is the scum team...hhmmm...

Explain why I'm scummy. Also, just think that if I am scum, why would I say I'm okay with lynching Lyner when he will turn up as town
and knowing the meta, people will eventually use this excuse to lynch a player on D2.

 

You were very eager to lynch Kevin. Its alsmost as if you want to lynch someone who cant be killed at night. hhhmm. you never switched your vote to Lyner because maybe you were still hoping kevin may be lynched. of course lynching a chosen is your first priority but a normal townie lynch will be fine too.

 

of course I am not convinced yet that kevin is a chosen, but if you turn up scum i am pretty sure he is one of the chosen.
 
Also if you find that Rafay has refused to post anything substantial, isn't that worthy of a vote?
Why did you leave your vote on Lyner and not switch it to Rafay?

 

Because Rafay hardly ever posts anything that is not fluff. I have played with him before and it has been the same case in every game. Its almost impossible to say he is scum because he is always posting fluff. He got lynched for the same reason last game and turned up townie.
 
Also you stated that all votes on D1 are "random" anyway, why use votes as a reason for suspecting someone?

 

I didnt find anyones posting that suspicious on Day 1 to switch my vote from Lyner to him.
 
#160 - Also I don't buy your reason for suspecting both d3mon and I. 

So was there an actual game where scum planned and said to one another to be the 2nd vote in a wagon?

Also, why did you find the 2nd vote in a wagon suspicious but not say, the third one.

Also why not a combination of the 2nd vote in the first wagon and the 3rd vote in the second wagon and vice versa.

This looks arbitrary and it seems that you're just finding a reason to pair the two of us.

If you suspected solely on this without taking into account the motivation for our vote

(for example I voted KevinH to finish RVS and move the game forward), I would say this is a bit forced.

Vote: Imran Ehsan

 

Because scum is likely to wait and see on whom the townies are turning on before placing a vote. So unlikely they will cast the first vote. They are unlikely to hammer as well. So 2-3 vote or staying neutral or staying off the wagon altogether is where the scum is at. 3 would look like they are starting a wagon, 2 is a much safer place. I am not saying everyone who voted 2nd is scummy..it just happened that two of the people I suspected most were on #2 in the wagon. I am also not saying both of you are scum..that both of you are scummy. Slight difference. One of the two of you are scum and you are looking more scummy to me than d3mon.
 
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My list in order of Townie JuJu:

• Electric Mango Almost got lynched
• Montosh Took me off L-1
• Imran Ehsan Didn't vote for either
• Rafay Didn't vote for either
• d3mon 1st on Electric Mango and last off
• Robert2424 Put 3rd vote on Electric Mango
• Lyner Put me at L-1
• Kaziocore Put 3rd vote on me and kept it there

 

Okay I have a crazy idea right now. Maybe KevinH is townie after all and scum is taking advantage of

KevinH's most likely wrong assumption that people who voted between EM and especially him is scum.

 

Lyner is dead and Robert2424 was killed so it's logical that I and d3mon will be suspected (though I'm not saying d3mon is also townie).

 

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That doesnt explain why they will kill robert if they wanted to follow this strategy. he was more likely to get lynched than d3mon.

 

My second suspect is probably Rafay just to let everyone know.

 

Based on our meta, I think, people suspect the players who lynch the town on D1. Maybe he's afraid to choose a side because of this.

 

oh yeah forgot another point. But this is completely false. I was on a wagon to lynch a townie. if i was scum and i knew lyner is townie and i was following your stated strategy seems to me like i would have hopped off the wagon to look more townie. he already had the majority votes and would have been lynched anyway with my vote or not.

I pretty much completely agree with Imran's rebuttal you Kaz. Kaz, you seem to be going out of your way to make Imran seem suspicious. It is scummy and it's not getting you anywhere.

 

I don't disagree with d3mon either, just because Rafay was the hammer doesn't make him town. It's the "too scummy to be scum" idea, which is ridiculous, because scum can easily play off that(ie being the hammer).

 

That being said, it is unlikely for scum to hammer unless they feel like they have the town behind them, and even then it's not too likely. People were mostly on board with lynching Lyner, so I don't think it changes much either way in terms of Rafay. He posts mostly fluff(though I post little myself ), and lynched a townie. So, some scummy things there, but he isn't actively trying to paint someone as scum by basically grasping at straws.

 

Also, Kevin's posts are really odd at times, and I don't know what to make of them.

 

 

Also if I'm scum and KevinH is town, it wouldn't make sense to vote for KevinH

knowing that he automatically suspects people who vote for him :/

 

Well, if he is the chosen townie there's obviously that benefit. Additionally, if he suspects anyone that votes for him, why should others take heed of that specific suspicion. Unless the suspicion is backed by some evidence in behavior in posts, most townies won't really listen to it.

 

That said, we can play the, "if I was scum I wouldn't do this, so doing this means i'm not scum" game all we want, it doesn't really add anything to the dynamic.

Also, Kevin's posts are really odd at times, and I don't know what to make of them.

 

A prophet is not recognized in his home town and a poet is not recognized in his own mafia game.

 

My "fluff" is meant to be entertaining. Hey, it's better than nothing!

 

They sometimes are, at other times i'm just confused though

2 days to go. People need to start making their minds on who to vote for.

Kaziocore saw the need to quote my original list

 

My list in order of Townie JuJu:

• Electric Mango Almost got lynched
• Montosh Took me off L-1
• Imran Ehsan Didn't vote for either
• Rafay Didn't vote for either
• d3mon 1st on Electric Mango and last off
• Robert2424 Put 3rd vote on Electric Mango
• Lyner Put me at L-1
• Kaziocore Put 3rd vote on me and kept it there

 

 

 
when I had posted a revised list
 

Revised list in order of townie juju:

• Montosh Took me off L-1, didn't lynch Lyner
• Electric Mango Almost got lynched, but lynched Lyner
• Imran Ehsan Didn't vote for either, but lynched Lyner
• Rafay Didn't vote for either, but lynched Lyner
• Kaziocore Put 3rd vote on me and kept it there, didn't lynch Lyner
• D3mon 1st on Electric Mango and last off, but lynched Lyner

 

The changes in the revised list were that Montosh and Electric Mango were switched at the top and Kaziocore and D3mon were switched at the bottom.

While I don't see any nefarious reason to do so, it's worth highlighting.

Since nobody has joined my vote on my first choice, I will switch to my second choice.

Unvote.
Vote: Kaziocore

I agree that both d3mon and Kaziocore both seem to be the most obvious scum.  Both have been relatively quiet and not posted much of anything.  Kaziocore's absence from much of the day 2 discussion is very much like his usual play style.  I sometimes find myself less active when playing as scum because I already know who the good and bad people are so there's no mystery to try to uncover.  I feel that is how Kaziocore is playing now.  

 

Also it appears as if they are trying to separate themselves by always being on different voting trains.  I also found it curious that when d3mon made his list of potential scum that Kaziocore was the only one of us named on both lists yet d3mon voted for someone else instead.  

 

It doesn't matter who we lynch first, I think we found our scum team.

 

Vote: Kaziocore

 

May Preston have mercy on your soul for I shall have none

Both have been relatively quiet and not posted much of anything. 

 

Really!! Thats what you think? Care to point to any of my posts that are fluff or when/if I have been inactive.

 

 

Also it appears as if they are trying to separate themselves by always being on different voting trains.  I also found it curious that when d3mon made his list of potential scum that Kaziocore was the only one of us named on both lists yet d3mon voted for someone else instead.  

 

It doesn't matter who we lynch first, I think we found our scum team.

 

Vote: Kaziocore

 

 

One of the reasons that I had for thinking Kazio is scum was that there wasn't enough content in his posts. He might not be posting enough but his last post was exactly the kind of post I would expect from a townie.

 

I cannot be sure that Kazio is townie but imho the following have the best chance of being scum

 

1) Imran

2) Kevin

3) Rafay

 

And, if I were to pick a scum team, it would be Kevin and Rafay. Atm, my vote stays.

So I was busy with work and stuff so I couldn't be as active as I should be :\

 

Thats a very lame argument and it just shows how deep you have to dig to make a case against me. EVERYONE in pages 1-4 have been posting fluff.Because..duh..its Day 1 and people are RV ing left and right. Do you want me to dig out the number of fluff posts you made on Day 1?

A: If I suspected KevinH for voting no-lynch or sometimes make fluff posts. If I suspected Rafay for doing noting to help the town and being inactive, that would be a lame case. What I find suspicious is that you're the one making fluff posts and insisting your vote on Lyner for the first few pages based on the frequency of him being scum. I think I've seen you only played scum once so I may be wrong but in this game, my gut tells me you're scum.

 

Real voting and bandwagoning really started from page 5 and for some reason my posts onwards from there have been completely ignored by you..what happened? you couldnt find any more fluff posts? i thought one of the major accusations from you is I am posting fluffs? why do you only have to dig out my posts from Pg 1 and Pg 2 then? what happened to my later posts?

B: If you think I suspected you solely on the fluff posts, then you should consider re-reading my entire post.

 

No. I suspected Lyner more than EM and Kazio on Day 1. I am now scummy because I didnt jump on a bandwagon to lynch 2 of the most experienced players of the game on Day 1 when noone except scum knows anything? Seems like you would have been happier if I participated in a lynch that was a bandwagon and now you are somehow trying to paint me as scum because the bandwagons failed?

C: Oh really? How can you suspect Lyner more than EM, me, or anyone for that matter when your sole reason for voting Lyner is the fact that he came out as scum most of the time.

 

 

Why so?

 

Not much really. Just a feeling atm.

 

He has been the 2nd to vote to lynch on 2 people so far -> which may indicate he is trying to get a wagon started but not be too obvious about it by hammering or or putting the 4th vote.

 

Also I posted why I am voting for Lyner. I havent seen any reason from him yet.

 

D: You're last statement on Lyner can be found here. You never justified your vote even after a wagon has formed on Lyner. If your top suspect is Lyner on D1 and your reason is purely a nonsensical one, then it goes without saying that you didn't hunt for scum at all. This is clearly scummy especially for a player like Imran.

 

No one except scum knows nothing. Statistically speaking Lyner had more probability of being scum and I didnt notice anyone else acting more scummy on Day 1 to switch my vote.

E: This is a silly excuse for scum. You didn't bother to hunt for scum at all because you're scum yourself.

 

You were very eager to lynch Kevin. Its alsmost as if you want to lynch someone who cant be killed at night. hhhmm. you never switched your vote to Lyner because maybe you were still hoping kevin may be lynched. of course lynching a chosen is your first priority but a normal townie lynch will be fine too.

 

of course I am not convinced yet that kevin is a chosen, but if you turn up scum i am pretty sure he is one of the chosen.

F: So that means if I find a player scummy, I shouldn't be too insistent.

 

Yeah we should be insistent but the moment that we're too insistent, it's scummy. Wow. How are we supposed to lynch players?

 

Because Rafay hardly ever posts anything that is not fluff. I have played with him before and it has been the same case in every game. Its almost impossible to say he is scum because he is always posting fluff. He got lynched for the same reason last game and turned up townie.

G: Okay so you chose to vote Lyner based on the number of mafia games he had versus lynching Rafay who hardly ever posts anything that is not fluff???

 

If you think all posts are seemingly random anyway on D1, why not vote Rafay instead who could arguably be more detrimental to town in the coming days?

 

I didnt find anyones posting that suspicious on Day 1 to switch my vote from Lyner to him.

H: Already discussed in E and maybe other points.

 

Because scum is likely to wait and see on whom the townies are turning on before placing a vote. So unlikely they will cast the first vote. They are unlikely to hammer as well. So 2-3 vote or staying neutral or staying off the wagon altogether is where the scum is at. 3 would look like they are starting a wagon, 2 is a much safer place. I am not saying everyone who voted 2nd is scummy..it just happened that two of the people I suspected most were on #2 in the wagon. I am also not saying both of you are scum..that both of you are scummy. Slight difference. One of the two of you are scum and you are looking more scummy to me than d3mon.

I: Nope this is arbitrary and lazy scum hunting. Also this may be points in http://wiki.mafiascum.net/ that are probably outdated because almost everyone knows this. A better reason should be Player A voted 2nd on a wagon after unvoting from Player B. Player A gave a reason that doesn't add up or it feels like. You judge on the bolded text. If we judge solely on who voted twice on wagon, scum like you can arbitrarily vote people in the middle of the wagon when they couldn't find a better suspect.

 

That doesnt explain why they will kill robert if they wanted to follow this strategy. he was more likely to get lynched than d3mon.

J: If I recall, only KevinH suspects more Robert than d3mon. Also, Robert is dangerously active for scum.

It doesn't matter that he is in a lower tier than d3mon, if he's active, he can find scum and counter arguments with people.

 

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We still have 40 hours to go. 

 

If there's no time and I'm lynched, lynch Imran.

 

My next suspect is between Rafay and Montosh.

We should have lynched Rafay on D1. I find it funny that he was complaining that town lost the last game

but in this game, he didn't make an effort to hunt scum and post less fluff ( no offense to you Rafay ) 

 

As for Montosh, I didn't like his latest post

 

I pretty much completely agree with Imran's rebuttal you Kaz. Kaz, you seem to be going out of your way to make Imran seem suspicious. It is scummy and it's not getting you anywhere.

Agrees without adding anything something. It feels like he's agreeing because it's the "cool" thing right now.

 

I don't disagree with d3mon either, just because Rafay was the hammer doesn't make him town. It's the "too scummy to be scum" idea, which is ridiculous, because scum can easily play off that(ie being the hammer).

I'm probably biased but the first sentence feels iffy to me. This feels like buddying so d3mon feels less threatened of Montosh when he could possible vote for him the next day.

 

That being said, it is unlikely for scum to hammer unless they feel like they have the town behind them, and even then it's not too likely. People were mostly on board with lynching Lyner, so I don't think it changes much either way in terms of Rafay. He posts mostly fluff(though I post little myself ), and lynched a townie. So, some scummy things there, but he isn't actively trying to paint someone as scum by basically grasping at straws.

The boldest statement means that he's not really finding me scum. If he votes for me, Montosh is surely bandwagoning.

 

Also, Kevin's posts are really odd at times, and I don't know what to make of them.

Good luck Kevin tomorrow. Sentences like this are dangerous because I'm sure if Montosh is scum and there's a wagon forming for Kevin,

he will then refer back to this post and say "well I suspected you as early as D2."

 

 

 

Also if I'm scum and KevinH is town, it wouldn't make sense to vote for KevinH

knowing that he automatically suspects people who vote for him :/

 

Well, if he is the chosen townie there's obviously that benefit. Additionally, if he suspects anyone that votes for him, why should others take heed of that specific suspicion. Unless the suspicion is backed by some evidence in behavior in posts, most townies won't really listen to it.

 

That said, we can play the, "if I was scum I wouldn't do this, so doing this means i'm not scum" game all we want, it doesn't really add anything to the dynamic.

 

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Honestly, I'm not sure why the chosen townies have to keep their identities to the town when the mafia knows them already. Can they like reveal themselves now :\

 

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In summary, if I'm lynched, get Imran next.

Then work out between who is scummier between Rafay and Montosh.

No one except scum knows nothing. Statistically speaking Lyner had more probability of being scum and I didnt notice anyone else acting more scummy on Day 1 to switch my vote.

To add here, yes no one except scum knows nothing but it doesn't mean town cannot and will not scum hunt. We would scum hunt on the basis of this statement. Knowing that scum knows more, they would say or do things differently from the town.

 

Also take note that Imran on D1 never sided or at least commented on the merits of the EM-KevinH wagon. He also never commented on the Lyner wagon.

As scum, he can clearly make things up on the fly to suit his needs. Also it is natural that people will find reason to vote for a player based on their position

on the EM-KevinH wagon and Lyner wagon.

 

Based on our meta, I think, people suspect the players who lynch the town on D1. Maybe he's afraid to choose a side because of this.

 

oh yeah forgot another point. But this is completely false. I was on a wagon to lynch a townie. if i was scum and i knew lyner is townie and i was following your stated strategy seems to me like i would have hopped off the wagon to look more townie. he already had the majority votes and would have been lynched anyway with my vote or not.

 

It would look scummy when you immediately hop off because it would look like you know where this wagon lead but of course this should not be judged solely on this act alone. Of course the reason for hopping off should be analysed too.

 

But really, this is all useless because you disappeared (lurked?) on the days leading to Lyner's lynch (this sounds good lol).

Your last post on Lyner is this http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/44516-tbd-mafia-game-thread/?p=715033 which is about 7 days before Lyner is lynched.

 

I remember you lurked a lot in this game:

http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/38669-cod-01-donner-party-mafia-town-wins/

 

Of course since this is a smaller group of people (12 players compared to 9) this will end soon so you need to post active now.