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[KH-09] Forest Fire Mafia: Arsonists Win

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bah!

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I just assume but the blame more falls on isocialism because all of sudden he becomes more active than he used to be. 

I'm more suspicious of his vote switch during the last day. There was zero reason for a tree to make that switch since Lyner was getting lynched no matter what, and I've stated before that more data is better for trees. More days plus more posts equals more data. The best thing for trees is for lynches to happen at deadline. That vote switch seems like a desperate ploy by the arsonists to ensure at least one of them makes it through the next day. Especially since I had already cast doubt on isocialism.

 

Granted, there's a pretty good case for Electric Mango, as well. He campaigned fairly hard for all lynching all the time. But his personality appears to just enjoy the chaos of random lynching. isocialism also campaigned for lynching, but his vote switch puts him over the top.

What about all the other days, stop being so tunnel vision. What about rafay? he could have easily voted for lyner on d3 but decided to go for dude, and then right off the bat on day d4 says that his "suspicion" of lyner is at it mark and votes for lyner, he could had also switched his vote, but no. Dude was a better choice. Yes I voted for dude because of his no lynch antics on d2. what was rafay reasoning for voting for dude? probably to protect lyner.

I believe it could isocialism or Commander Shephard both have been very supicious from the beginning and im curious about their responses since they have been short and concise. 

 

I disagreed with you about your voting reason because we both voted people for absolutely no reason which was the point I was trying to make. 

Roberts D3 vote was the 3rd vote on Lyner. I am positive that Robert stands with the trees despite him not voting D4.

 

CS - who knows, but if he turns out to be the 2nd arsonist or firefighter i will be really upset

 

Pretzimus - Probably townie since he put the 3rd vote on Lyner D4

 

Rafay - I have been suspicious of him for a while. Nothing soooooper scummy for I have had this nagging feeling he could be scum and his D4 vote on Lyner could have been a distancing vote. His voting record had been quite dubious before yesterday.

 

ISocialism - Everything I just said about Rafay you could say for ISoc. The only difference is that you change the first vote to the last vote on Lyner.

 

Ahem no, in the last game I was totally active, those mistakes were random occurrences that no one could foresee.

But yeah if I was a tree I would be royally pissed at me. 

Interesting where did cs come from?

I'm not sure.

I see compelling reasons for iSocialism being scum for being a bandwagoner and for wanting a no-lynch however being a bandwagoner is too obvious of being scum even if it was used as a double bluff. 

Prez , idk about him but I think he has about as much chance as iSocialism, perhaps even a bit more as he was the third vote on Lyner which works against him imo. 

 

Other than them two Robert is most probably to be the Arsonist.

If I haven't made it clear, I'm the firefighter, all I can say is that I hope the arsonists tried to prime EM on Night 1 or that they primed Dude. 

It would have being luck anyway if I did prevent a prime, the odds are against stopping it unless I just picked someone who I thought might have being a tree but I wouldn't know 100% they were a tree. 

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Vote Count:

iSocialism (1): Rafay
Rafay (1): iSocialism
Robert2424 (1): Commander Shepard
Commander Shepard (0):
Electric Mango (0):
Pretzimus the Great (0)
No lynch (0):

 
Not voting: Robert2424, Electric Mango, Pretzimus the Great
 
Tree Stumps:

Road2Victory, Duderonomy 

 
Dead Arsonist:

Lyner

 
With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch or 2 at deadline.
Deadline is 17:00 EDT Sunday, November 1.
 

@cs. Are you trying to lynch me cause I've lost interest in the game? Or me half suspecting lyner but too inactive to place a vote on him.

 

Other then that. I should catch up. But I'm a bit sick. So yeah.

 

CS has noticed I'm not really invested into the game. I've missed lots of important stuff. I mainly forget this game is even going. With only my phone to play makes things limited. I don't think I'll be playing next mafia game. Till I get things sorted/get my interest back. I'll stick out for the reminder of the game as I doubt we can find a replacement for me.

 

I don't have a top suspect at the moment so I'm a bit useless.

If I haven't made it clear, I'm the firefighter, all I can say is that I hope the arsonists tried to prime EM on Night 1 or that they primed Dude. 

It would have being luck anyway if I did prevent a prime, the odds are against stopping it unless I just picked someone who I thought might have being a tree but I wouldn't know 100% they were a tree. 

Do we have evidence to confirm this? 

@cs. Are you trying to lynch me cause I've lost interest in the game? Or me half suspecting lyner but too inactive to place a vote on him.

 

Other then that. I should catch up. But I'm a bit sick. So yeah.

 

CS has noticed I'm not really invested into the game. I've missed lots of important stuff. I mainly forget this game is even going. With only my phone to play makes things limited. I don't think I'll be playing next mafia game. Till I get things sorted/get my interest back. I'll stick out for the reminder of the game as I doubt we can find a replacement for me.

 

I don't have a top suspect at the moment so I'm a bit useless.

 

I'm trying to lynch you because there is a high probability you're the second Arsonist. You half suspecting Lyner is very Arsonist-like, but no I didn't see that.

 

 

If I haven't made it clear, I'm the firefighter, all I can say is that I hope the arsonists tried to prime EM on Night 1 or that they primed Dude. 

It would have being luck anyway if I did prevent a prime, the odds are against stopping it unless I just picked someone who I thought might have being a tree but I wouldn't know 100% they were a tree. 

Do we have evidence to confirm this? 

 

To confirm what?

Im assuming he means your fire fighter role claim. I 99.99% believe him. The only person that could be the fire fighter would be prefzimus because everyone else has been active and would have counter claimed. Also it would be pretty dumb for CS to make that up and risk getting himself lynched.

 

I was really hoping iSocialism of Rafay was the fire fighter because those two are my top suspects and it would ha e been nice to eliminate one from my list.

 

 

@cs. Are you trying to lynch me cause I've lost interest in the game? Or me half suspecting lyner but too inactive to place a vote on him.

 

Other then that. I should catch up. But I'm a bit sick. So yeah.

 

CS has noticed I'm not really invested into the game. I've missed lots of important stuff. I mainly forget this game is even going. With only my phone to play makes things limited. I don't think I'll be playing next mafia game. Till I get things sorted/get my interest back. I'll stick out for the reminder of the game as I doubt we can find a replacement for me.

 

I don't have a top suspect at the moment so I'm a bit useless.

I'm trying to lynch you because there is a high probability you're the second Arsonist. You half suspecting Lyner is very Arsonist-like, but no I didn't see that.

 

 

If I haven't made it clear, I'm the firefighter, all I can say is that I hope the arsonists tried to prime EM on Night 1 or that they primed Dude.

It would have being luck anyway if I did prevent a prime, the odds are against stopping it unless I just picked someone who I thought might have being a tree but I wouldn't know 100% they were a tree.

Do we have evidence to confirm this?

To confirm what?
To confirm that you are firefighter if you do have a reasonable explanation then I believe you

There's no evidence anyone could give of being a firefighter that would not hurt the trees. CS, please don't say anything about anyone you might have blocked.

 

Far better to have the arsonists be surprised when not everyone they primed is ignited. That would extend the game multiple days. Otherwise, they would simply wait another day before ignition.

 

Of course, the nature of the game is that we have to make decisions based on the behavior of other players. But CS called for a no-lynch the first day and agreed with the no-lynch the second day, so I'm inclined to believe him.

That is why CS is a little bit suspicious so please state you reason if you are truly the firefighter if not just back off and we might as well we think you are scum.

The fact that no one else is counter claiming fire fighter is all the proof i need.

 

Robert is also townie or the biggest mafia d-bag ever. He pretty much admitted abondoning this game and has not voted the last two days because he is not qualified. He has not read the thread but at least is man enough to admit that and is not voting because he does not want to screw thi gs up for the town. So he's a townie. If he's an arsonist then that is a scumbag move and Robert does not strike me as that kind of player.

 

That leaves Rafay, ISoc, and Pretzimus, who is also i active. I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt as well. To me it is down to just two, Rafay and ISocialism.

Now we can start the fun!

I'm still holding into my previous assessment that EM and Dude are our naughty boys, and now it is stronger.

Still can't yet get a good feeling on CS and Robert since both are not very vocal.

 

Rafay is too quiet in this game.

 

Since iSoc is being framed too then I assume he is the likeliest town here.

 

R2V I gave up convincing you. I might be biased but I guess Duderonomy is correct that you're more interested in fun than strategy  :wub:

 

 

For now,

 

Vote: Duderonomy

 

Is it suspicious that Duke Nukem/Pretzimus the Great is the only player that Lyner didn't mention?

 

 CS is active but not responding to the game, which means it is likely that he got a boring role(vanilla town). We're pretty much screwed if he is part of the scum.
 
Pretzimus's predecessor hasn't spoken much, we need him to give us his opinion as much as possible so we can at least guess his alignment, so far so good.
 
Now we have iSoc, Rafay, EM, and Robert in the wagons. I'm pretty sure that at least one of the scum is among this 4 people, if not both.

He mentions him later but only basic stuff. And he highlights 4 people as being scum in that grouping. He could be just trying to cover iSoc and Rafay.

 

I'm only voting Robert atm because this game is parallel to the previous game thus far minus EM but I was the main power role anyway and there is only 3 power roles in this one. Perhaps I should remove my vote as Robert could be only odd one out of us 3. All I know is I would love it if Robert was an Arsonist.

 

I looked over some of the previous votes and days

 

Duderonomy (3): iSocialism, Lyner, Rafay

 

This got Dude lynched? 

I don't think Robert is scum because of this

Duderonomy (3): iSocialism, Lyner, Rafay
Lyner (3): Duderonomy, Electric Mango, Robert2424

 

This shit confuses the hell out of me since I don't get the rules but whoever gets voted last should get lynched. Robert probably didn't know what the hell would happen in a tie so I doubt he would vote Lyner. 

 

 Why the suspicion EM?
An interesting fact Lyner. You've casted the wrong vote 2ice!!
 
You casted the lynching vote on R2V and also lead the lynch of Duderonomy. Interesting.
 

Those quotes are from Rafay, not convinced he is a tree but he is getting there.

 Take it for what you will but I've seen enough deforestation.
 
Vote: Lyner
 
Fool me once......
 

But then I'm lost when he waits for someone else to respond before deciding to vote Lyner. 

 

 
Kevin can you buzz Robert and CS and see what's going on?

 

That is from iSocialism, that's a pretty good tree thing to say. An Arsonist wouldn't want to remind two trees to be active. 

 

So in my book, the Arsonist is definitely 100% between Rafay and Pretzimus the Great .

 Or Rafay is the scum that was planning to frame me since yesterday and you are his partner, which kinda explains all the kills on the first day and yesterday.
 
At the first day you put the last vote on Dude, ensuring that there will be a dead tree no matter what happened(if I unvoted).
 
At the second day Rafay put the last vote on Dude, ensuring that I will be suspected the most when Dude is revealed as tree while you picked the other side so as not to be suspected. Another alternative is that Robert putting the third vote ensuring that there will be a dead tree no matter what happened.
 
And for the finale, both you and Rafay quickly try to influence the town by voting me.
 
There you go, Rafay/EM are our scum.
 

 

Another quote from Lyner. I think at that point Lyner knew is was screwed and tried to cover Rafay by saying Rafay and EM were scum. I think I'm ready to make my final vote.

Wait forget that, this crap below is scummy as hell.

Vote Count:

Lyner (3): Rafay, Electric Mango, Pretzimus the Great

Commander Shepard (1): iSocialism

 

 

Vote: Pretzimus the Great

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