May 17, 20179 yr comment_907211 Welcome to any Turkish embassy when Erdogan is in your nation... Even the russians aren't this bad (either side) Report
May 18, 20179 yr Author comment_907243 Turkey's been steadily going downhill, but it really went into to freefall since the "coup". There's nothing new in Russia. Unfortunately bad things are starting to happen here too (Hungary). While Orban did have a good point in the migrant crisis, I generally hate his politics and in the past few months, he and the government's been running amok. Doesn't help that he regards Russia and Turkey as "best parctice" governance. Report
May 18, 20179 yr Author comment_907278 As far as I know, it was the Embassy staff that rushed out to throw some punches. This seems logical, because if they didn't want confrontation, why did they leave the Embassy in the first place? Report
May 18, 20179 yr comment_907286 Turkey's been steadily going downhill, but it really went into to freefall since the "coup". There's nothing new in Russia. Unfortunately bad things are starting to happen here too (Hungary). While Orban did have a good point in the migrant crisis, I generally hate his politics and in the past few months, he and the government's been running amok. Doesn't help that he regards Russia and Turkey as "best parctice" governance. Enjoyed Orban walking the walk of shame in EU Parliament? Report
May 18, 20179 yr comment_907287 As far as I know, it was the Embassy staff that rushed out to throw some punches. This seems logical, because if they didn't want confrontation, why did they leave the Embassy in the first place? Alternatively, what could also be logical is that the guards may have have been attacked and provoked first and then responded. Conveniently, we have no video of when it started. Outcome being bad PR, either way, it's stupid for the staff to have responded in kind, because only they'll get the bad coverage as Erdogan is the up and coming bogeyman and they should have known better. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4513490/Turkish-president-s-bodyguards-attack-protesters-DC.html Each side accused the other of being the aggressors.Pro-Erdogan demonstrator Mustafa Dikilitas, told ABC television: 'We weren't doing anything wrong. We just celebrated our president.'And another, Busra Eren, said: 'One of the YPG supporters ran across, picked up a megaphone, and hit a Turkish citizen with it.'Demonstrators on the other side, meanwhile, blamed Erdogan's supporters for the violence.'All of the sudden they just ran towards us,' Yazidi Kurd demonstrator Lucy Usoyan told ABC, adding that she was attacked by one of the pro-Erdogan supporters. Report
May 18, 20179 yr Author comment_907293 Turkey's been steadily going downhill, but it really went into to freefall since the "coup". There's nothing new in Russia. Unfortunately bad things are starting to happen here too (Hungary). While Orban did have a good point in the migrant crisis, I generally hate his politics and in the past few months, he and the government's been running amok. Doesn't help that he regards Russia and Turkey as "best parctice" governance. Enjoyed Orban walking the walk of shame in EU Parliament?It may have looked like a walk of shame to you, but unfortunately I can say with confidence that Orban doesn't care in the slightest what the EP thinks of him. In fact, everything he said there served to reinforce the domestic narrative that he has been building for months that George Soros has the entire EU bought and paid for. Report
May 18, 20179 yr comment_907294 Offcourse Orban himself wouldn't shrug about it, just wondered if YOU liked Report
May 18, 20179 yr Author comment_907295 Offcourse Orban himself wouldn't shrug about it, just wondered if YOU liked I would have, If it mattered. Unfortunately, Orban has long stopped even pretending that he cares about what anyone but his core voters think of him. Report
May 18, 20179 yr comment_907305 Most of the world has stopped caring for what "the other side" is thinking... Report
Oh man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQiLBAMM0-4