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[The Warrior]

Any reasonable person knows that town lying to town is bad.

[Colonel Medved]

Vote Count

 

brewersalliance (1): Lachiton

Robert2424 (0): 

Lachiton (0):

SeaBeeGipson (0): 

KevinH (1): Wolfpacks

Wolfpacks (0): 

The Warrior (1): Rafay

Rafay (2): Robert2424, The Warrior

CampinKiller (1): brewersalliance

Lord MK (0): 

iSocialism (0): 

Velocity (0): 

 

Not Voting:  SeaBeeGipson, KevinH, CampinKiller, Lord MK, iSocialism, Velocity

 

 

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at deadline.

Deadline is December 3rd and 2:00pm CST

[CampinKiller]

Any reasonable person knows that town lying to town is bad.

I prefer to Lynch all liars

[Rafay]

Have I lied to the town in this game? If so, then hang me.

 

There should be definitely 9 town 3 mafia otherwise we are screwed.

 

So we can mis lynch for 3 consecutive days.

 

But with 4:1 town mafia ration we may hit 1-2 mafia out of 6 kills which may prolong the days.

[brewersalliance]

Any reasonable person knows that town lying to town is bad.

I prefer to Lynch all liars

There are situations where lying can be beneficial tho. So just cause you lie about something doesn't mean you should be lynched no matter what. The lying TW is talking about is not one of those situations tho

Have I lied to the town in this game? If so, then hang me.

There should be definitely 9 town 3 mafia otherwise we are screwed.

So we can mis lynch for 3 consecutive days.

But with 4:1 town mafia ration we may hit 1-2 mafia out of 6 kills which may prolong the days.

I think TW is referring to previous games as you do have a track record of saying some things that aren't true. However in the last game I don't think it was the case, I don't think you intentionally lied about killing TW, I think you either missed my message or thought I made a mistake.

Now this could be TW just trying to help the town, or he could be scum trying to use our general consensus against rafay to lynch a townie and if rafay did turn up town after a lynch, no one would really hold it against TW for pushing it. So it's a safe scum play imo
I'm not saying that makes TW scum. I'm just saying even tho many townies might think a rafay lynch will benefit town, TW suggesting it does not make him town either

[Robert2424]

Rafay seems awfully defensive...

[The Warrior]

 

Any reasonable person knows that town lying to town is bad.

I prefer to Lynch all liars

 

This is a generally accepted policy in mafia and should be for good reason.

 

 

 

Any reasonable person knows that town lying to town is bad.

I prefer to Lynch all liars

There are situations where lying can be beneficial tho. So just cause you lie about something doesn't mean you should be lynched no matter what. The lying TW is talking about is not one of those situations tho

Have I lied to the town in this game? If so, then hang me.

There should be definitely 9 town 3 mafia otherwise we are screwed.

So we can mis lynch for 3 consecutive days.

But with 4:1 town mafia ration we may hit 1-2 mafia out of 6 kills which may prolong the days.

I think TW is referring to previous games as you do have a track record of saying some things that aren't true. However in the last game I don't think it was the case, I don't think you intentionally lied about killing TW, I think you either missed my message or thought I made a mistake.

Now this could be TW just trying to help the town, or he could be scum trying to use our general consensus against rafay to lynch a townie and if rafay did turn up town after a lynch, no one would really hold it against TW for pushing it. So it's a safe scum play imo
I'm not saying that makes TW scum. I'm just saying even tho many townies might think a rafay lynch will benefit town, TW suggesting it does not make him town either

Lying can be beneficial in certain situations but that doesn't make it a good policy. As a general rule of thumb "Lynch All Liars" is a good policy.

 

Yes, I am trying to help the town by making sure it's known that town lying to town is not a good policy.

 

No, I haven't seen a reason that is specific to this game to lynch Rafay yet. I was voting to raise a point.

 

Unvote

Velocity is the only player who has not posted yet btw.

 

@Velocity - Any thoughts so far?

[iSocialism]

I do think, like always, that we need to go for a lynch or at least the action of going for a lynch. There's been a lot of progress on this day which is good thing. With everyone noticing that a lunch might be imminent. Everyone is getting on the defensive side. Lots of votes flying around meaning lots of little things to look at.

VOTE Kevin

I mean advocating for a lynch on day one. I have only seen that like once before, and you were a scum. However you do go for no lynches even when you are scum.

[Rafay]

With everyone noticing that a lunch might be imminent.

 

Really?? No one bothered to invite me.

[Velocity]

I didn’t see that we started lol, I’m here, and like I’ve stated however many times before, unless I’m needed to or have good reason to vote I prefer to not vote. A D1 Lynch could be beneficial to us, considering we might take out a scum, but we could also potentially take out one of the important players, like the jailer, would give scum a power role, so if I’m called upon to vote I might, but for now I’m gonna avoid it, as is my policy.

[Lachiton]

Even though it is strange that Kevin prefers D1 lynch this game but his arguments for it are valid. The problem is D1 lynch is kinda shot in the dark, I think people trying to turn this around on Kevin changing his play style so that they have a easy lynch are the most suspicious.

So keeping that in mind

Vote: iSocialism

[KevinH]

 

• 1 Mafia Rolecop
• 1 Mafia Backup Jailer
• 1 Mafia Goon
• 1 Vigilante
• 1 Backup Rolecop
• 1 Jailkeeper
• 6 Townies

This is one of those cases where no-lynch on day 1 is not in the town's best interest.

 

 

You can't easily play the odd/even lynch/no-lynch game here. The Jailkeeper can prevent a kill and the Vigilante can deliver an extra kill.

Come Day 2, we aren't going to know anything new. Maybe the Jailkeeper prevents a kill and tells us to lynch whom he jailed, but that's the best we can hope for.

I try to play the same whether I'm townie or scum and I always advocate doing what's best for the town.
The best thing for the town is to lynch Day 1 in this situation.

Q: What kind of potato starts arguments?
A: An agi-tater.

[iSocialism]

I'm more voting for Kevin because you need to vote for him when jes not going for his typical no lynch stance. Specially when he's calling for a lynch without voting. I'll remove my vote just not right now.

[Rafay]

Vigilante can deliver an extra kill.

 

That extra kill possibly won't come on D1 and who can say that it won't backfire?

 

Q: What kind of potato starts arguments? A: An agi-tater.

 

Here we go with the Kevin puns. Don't be surprised if a wagon forms on you.......  

[brewersalliance]

The only person who knows if there will or won't be an extra kill n1 is the vig

[KevinH]

Vote: Velocity

 

Pressure to vote for somebody else.

[Lachiton]

I'm more voting for Kevin because you need to vote for him when jes not going for his typical no lynch stance. Specially when he's calling for a lynch without voting. I'll remove my vote just not right now.

Kevin has no lynched before when he was scum so it's not a given that he is scum just because he wants to lynch. There's no cop so his arguments for a lynch are valid as we will be in the amar situation next day. At least with lynch we can analyse wagons. I feel u r trying to utilise this opportunity to get a safe lynch on Kevin and now u r kinda backtracking when called out on it. These seem like scum signs so my vote stays put.

[iSocialism]

I haven't said his agreement isn't valid, I'm with him on it. I know he he went for a no-lynch while being scum. But just like Kevin saying he can't do a lynch because people will say he's scum. I can not let Kevin vote for a lynch on day one without voting for him.

[Lord MK]

Rafay seems awfully defensive...

Lol, invalid argument.
Rafay is always defensive.

[brewersalliance]

I haven't said his agreement isn't valid, I'm with him on it. I know he he went for a no-lynch while being scum. But just like Kevin saying he can't do a lynch because people will say he's scum. I can not let Kevin vote for a lynch on day one without voting for him.

Kevin advoacting for a lynch today is the right call.  maybe that means he is scum, maybe not, but we need to lynch today.  We have no investigative roles, and the scum actually have one.  A no lynch today would basically give the scum role cop an extra night of investigation to find our jailor and vig, (jailor obvi would be their #1 target since they would then get a scum jailor)

 

so we 100% need to lynch today.  Cant give scum a free and extra investigation.