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[The Warrior]

January 5th marked the 5 year anniversary of The Warrior's tenure as the President of IRON. What a great 5 years it's been! We fully recovered from the hard times surrounding the Disorder War, thwarted TOP/MI6's plan to roll us, ended up rolling TOP and MI6 both twice instead, helped kill STA, stomped Sparta, helped build the most powerful bloc in the game since The Continuum, have basically outlasted Cybernations at this point, and we watched as Robert and Kverst were beaten to death on night 4. It's been fun folks.

 

Robert (Sister Midnight), a Town Non-Consecutive Night Follower, was killed on night 4.

Kverst (Mandarijn), a Town Non-Consecutive Night Watcher, was killed on night 4.

 

 

 

Vote Count

Brewersalliance (0):
Colonel Medved (0):
Lachiton (0):
Nadarr (0):
Rafay (0):
Rhizoctonia (0):
Sister Midnight (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting: Brewersalliance, Colonel Medved, Lachiton, Nadarr, Rafay, Rhizoctonia, Sister Midnight

With 7 players alive it takes 4 to lynch or 2 at deadline.
Deadline will be at 11:00am CN Server time on Tuesday, January 22nd.

Currently in line to be mod-killed:

[brewersalliance]

okay first things first....

 

IF YOU ARE TOWN STOP LYING ABOUT YOUR ROLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  WHY WHY WHY WOULD YOU LIE???? THATS HOW WE GET POITNLESS MISLYNCHES WHERE WE SPEND AN ENTIRE DAY AND BARELY LEARN ANYTHING

 

secondly:  Vote SM

 

She was off the MK wagon, and barely seemed to want to contribute to the MK is scum argument.  She wanted robert to be the lynch, and look who ended up dead... robert.  If SM is scum, then she would have known MK was town, so it could have been a ploy to stay off his wagon so she could say "see, i didnt get behind the lynch of a townie, so i cant be scum"

 

looks like we either have a stupid vig or a sk.  my bet is on us having a sk

[Sister Midnight]

OH NO!!! And SHIT!!!!
Oh I misread it. I’m still alive.

[brewersalliance]

Not Voting: Lachiton, Nadarr

 

 

also FoS on Lachiton and Nadarr for not voting and being off the MK wagon.  Yes he was town but he got busted lying (multiple times at that) and you two plus SM did not cast a vote for him.

[Nadarr]

Why do I keep getting singled out for not voting when yall say no more votes? I'd be singled out for voting if I had and pushed through the vote early. This makes no sense to me. I was at work when the day ended. I can't keep up during the day and that's when the vote is pushed through. I was on the MK train the whole time.

[brewersalliance]

you were not singled out as there were two other people i mentioned lol I just pointed out everyone who didnt vote.  of the three (SM, Lach, you)  i think you are the least likely to be scum and most likely to be town.  that is true that you did seem to support MK as lying, and it was a lot more than the other two.  

[Sister Midnight]

Alrighty. I misread it.

Role claim: I am KevinH, town cop.

N1 - I investigated Brewsky and got no result (most likely because I was in jail)
N2 - I investigated Brewsky and got not guilty.
I picked Brewsky because he’s a master of this game, a leader, and ridiculously manipulative. I was relieved because having such a great player as town would be very helpful.
N3 - I investigated Robert and got a guilty
I picked Robert because he did not vote for WP, who was scum, and please note, I hammered him.
N4 - I investigated Col. Medved and got a guilty
I chose him because he was leading the wagon on MK, who I believed (correctly) to be not scum

Conclusions: I believe that I am an insane cop, I got a guilty Reading on Robert who is not guilty, which makes me think that my not guilty readings are incorrect and Brewers and Medved are scum.

If you look over this game so far I have actively pursued and hammered Wolfpacks, who was scum. I did not support lynching and MK, who was not a scam. I vigorously tried to lynch Robert who I was told was scum.

Medved and Brewers are the first two names on MK (not scum). They were poking him before WP was lynched, knowing that MK would become belligerent and inappropriate when on the defensive (he always does).

VOTE BREWSKY

FOS Col. Medved

[brewersalliance]

Alright, after reading back through the posts from D4, I think nadarr is actually most likely town

 

these couple posts she made do actually echo her thoughts here and make me feel like she is indeed town

 

 

I understand where you are coming from CM. It makes sense that a newbie playing the way I am could seem scum. If I may explain some of my actions. I was one of the last people to vote on WP since we had decided at the point not to end the day early so I held my vote off until we decided to hammer him through (no need to have a repeat of GoT mafia). I was extremely vocal about wanting to vote WP. When I realized the day was almost over I voted when I could because of work which means that I voted a little to late for my vote to count.

 

MK did use me in his scheming so that is a point against me; however, I have also been very adamant that he too is scum. From a logical perspective, why would I vote off both of my scum partners? To me, that makes absolutely no sense. If MK flips town then that will unfortunately be another point against me, but honestly it would be a point against everyone going hard for his lynch. I would lay my vote on him now, but he is only 2 votes away from an outright lynch and I don't want to force that at the moment.

 

I hope this calms some of your suspicions; if not, that is okay too.

 

 

I would really like to vote for MK, but I don't want to end the day early. iSoc can you please post so that you are not mod killed.

 

However, this third post is the one that makes me think she is town the strongest.

 

Could I perhaps pose a theory? If CM investigated both iSoc and MK and returned no result, we possibly have a rolestopper among us. If that is true, we know the rolestopper picked MK because of the no result CM got. And if that is true, Kvrest would not have seen MK visit Rafay (if MK is telling the truth).

 

Nadarr is a very new player to mafia, so it makes sense to me that she would actually be the rolestopper for this game.  and she has been using the role in a protective manner it seems.  N1 isocialism accidentally posted he was the jailor, this outing himself as a dangerous role, something scum would potentially target, so it makes sense a town rolestopper would target isoc.  the other would be MK, as he claimed cop, and again it would have been an attempt to protect the cop.  so it makes sense that she would be this role

I understand where you are coming from CM. It makes sense that a newbie playing the way I am could seem scum. If I may explain some of my actions. I was one of the last people to vote on WP since we had decided at the point not to end the day early so I held my vote off until we decided to hammer him through (no need to have a repeat of GoT mafia). I was extremely vocal about wanting to vote WP. When I realized the day was almost over I voted when I could because of work which means that I voted a little to late for my vote to count.

 

MK did use me in his scheming so that is a point against me; however, I have also been very adamant that he too is scum. From a logical perspective, why would I vote off both of my scum partners? To me, that makes absolutely no sense. If MK flips town then that will unfortunately be another point against me, but honestly it would be a point against everyone going hard for his lynch. I would lay my vote on him now, but he is only 2 votes away from an outright lynch and I don't want to force that at the moment.

 

I hope this calms some of your suspicions; if not, that is okay too.

 

 

I would really like to vote for MK, but I don't want to end the day early. iSoc can you please post so that you are not mod killed.

 

 

Could I perhaps pose a theory? If CM investigated both iSoc and MK and returned no result, we possibly have a rolestopper among us. If that is true, we know the rolestopper picked MK because of the no result CM got. And if that is true, Kvrest would not have seen MK visit Rafay (if MK is telling the truth).

 

 

[Sister Midnight]

Addendum:

January 5th marked the 5 year anniversary of The Warrior's tenure as the President of IRON. What a great 5 years it's been! We fully recovered from the hard times surrounding the Disorder War, thwarted TOP/MI6's plan to roll us, ended up rolling TOP and MI6 both twice instead, helped kill STA, stomped Sparta, helped build the most powerful bloc in the game since The Continuum, have basically outlasted Cybernations at this point, and we watched as Robert and Kverst were beaten to death on night 4. It's been fun folks.
 
Robert (Sister Midnight), a Town Non-Consecutive Night Follower, was killed on night 4.
Kverst (Mandarijn), a Town Non-Consecutive Night Watcher, was killed on night 4.
 


 
 
Vote Count

Brewersalliance (0):
Colonel Medved (0):
Lachiton (0):
Nadarr (0):
Rafay (0):
Rhizoctonia (0):
Sister Midnight (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting: Brewersalliance, Colonel Medved, Lachiton, Nadarr, Rafay, Rhizoctonia, Sister Midnight

With 7 players alive it takes 4 to lynch or 2 at deadline.
Deadline will be at 11:00am CN Server time on Tuesday, January 22nd.

Currently in line to be mod-killed:

OH NO!!! And SHIT!!!!Oh I misread it. I’m still alive.

Addendum : Also please note that my initial reaction seeing my name in green was to think I was murdered. That is why I said oh shit. If I were scum I would have known better.

Also, only a very stupid scum player would go after Robert in public the way I did and then Murder him that night.

With that said, there are either 2 scum factions, or an SK and 1 scum faction. I’m inclined to believe we have a SK over 2 factions.

[brewersalliance]

that is very interesting SM, and a pretty strong defense.  Only problem is a) its extremely convenient and b ) has two MAJOR flaws.  MK claimed cop and you never made any attempt to counter MK.  If you were actually the cop, you would have had a pretty good feeling that MK was lying about his role as a cop,

 

As for Robert, its pretty convenient of you to have gotten a guilty on him and a not guilty on me. I place my vote on you and use the Robert vote as a key reason for it, and then not only do you come out with a convenient reason for your vote to be placed on robert, but you also have almost too perfect reason to flip it right back on me (who just voted for you).  And just think, if you were actually the cop, the entire day you had the guilty on robert, someone else was lying about being the cop.  If you honestly thought robert was guilty since you were the cop, it makes zero sense not to claim.  Not only would we get MK for lying about being the cop (though he was town but thats his own damn fault)  it would have confirmed you as the town cop for knowing MK was lying and exposed another scum-though robert was town, but if you really got a guilty you would have thought he was town.

 

And lets look at another glaring  and perhaps the biggest mistake in your defense/attempt to shift the blame from you to me. 

 

Alrighty. I misread it.


N4 - I investigated Col. Medved and got a guilty
I chose him because he was leading the wagon on MK, who I believed (correctly) to be not scum

Conclusions: I believe that I am an insane cop, I got a guilty Reading on Robert who is not guilty, which makes me think that my not guilty readings are incorrect and Brewers and Medved are scum.

If
Medved and Brewers are the first two names on MK (not scum). They were poking him before WP was lynched, knowing that MK would become belligerent and inappropriate when on the defensive (he always does).

VOTE BREWSKY

FOS Col. Medved

 

If you are an insane cop, that would mean the guilty you got on medved would make him town, yet here you are saying he is your #2 suspect.  So you are legit contradicting yourself here. Hell, you straight up say you got a not guilty result on CM, yet above it says guilty.  Its a pretty well thought out defense there, but you slipped up with the FoS on medved and how you named him as your second most likely suspect.  

Alrighty. I misread it.


N4 - I investigated Col. Medved and got a guilty
I chose him because he was leading the wagon on MK, who I believed (correctly) to be not scum

Conclusions: I believe that I am an insane cop, I got a guilty Reading on Robert who is not guilty, which makes me think that my not guilty readings are incorrect and Brewers and Medved are scum.

If
Medved and Brewers are the first two names on MK (not scum). They were poking him before WP was lynched, knowing that MK would become belligerent and inappropriate when on the defensive (he always does).

VOTE BREWSKY

FOS Col. Medved

 

[Lachiton]

Damnit!! Two townie deaths. Not good.

Not Voting: Lachiton, Nadarr

also FoS on Lachiton and Nadarr for not voting and being off the MK wagon. Yes he was town but he got busted lying (multiple times at that) and you two plus SM did not cast a vote for him.

You really think me not joining a sure shot wagon makes me a suspect? Yes I had multiple chances to vote him but he was already up for deadline lynch. What good would have happened with me joining in? Secure it more than it already was?

Yes if someone unvoted then I might have chipped in but I didn't feel the need because there was no danger of it ever happening. If you feel otherwise, you can check my posts from previous day.

Also I would like to remind you that with 7 players left we are close to lylo. If we have 2 more scums we have one more mislynch. If we have SK too, today is lylo. Unless we have a vig who can balance the kill but he/she has to be sure and lucky.

[brewersalliance]

Damnit!! Two townie deaths. Not good.

 

Not Voting: Lachiton, Nadarr

also FoS on Lachiton and Nadarr for not voting and being off the MK wagon. Yes he was town but he got busted lying (multiple times at that) and you two plus SM did not cast a vote for him.

You really think me not joining a sure shot wagon makes me a suspect? Yes I had multiple chances to vote him but he was already up for deadline lynch. What good would have happened with me joining in? Secure it more than it already was?

Yes if someone unvoted then I might have chipped in but I didn't feel the need because there was no danger of it ever happening. If you feel otherwise, you can check my posts from previous day.

Also I would like to remind you that with 7 players left we are close to lylo. If we have 2 more scums we have one more mislynch. If we have SK too, today is lylo. Unless we have a vig who can balance the kill but he/she has to be sure and lucky.

 

what bothered me the most about you was the amount of lurking you did and then you basically did not comment much at all about the MK situation until it was basically a foregone conclusion that he was going to be lynched.  My vote isnt on you as in my eyes SM was still more suspicions than you, and now with her "role claim" and actions that basically contradicts itself I think we have pretty solid evidence that SM is scum

[Lachiton]

@SM you investigated both brewers and Medved and got not guilty? But since you got guilty on Robert you believe you're insane?

TBH we can't go on trusting any more cop claims. We already has two false claims of cop and you never countered. Though it makes sense for you to go after Robert as you claim you got guilty on him, how were you sure MK was not scum? He claimed your role so even if you go with your investigation results, you will have doubts on MK but it looked to me you were sort of defending him previous day.

[brewersalliance]

@SM you investigated both brewers and Medved and got not guilty? But since you got guilty on Robert you believe you're insane?

 

No, she said she got a guilty on medved, which would mean he would be town if she was actually telling the truth.  

 

N4 - I investigated Col. Medved and got a guilty

 

[Lachiton]

Damnit!! Two townie deaths. Not good.

Not Voting: Lachiton, Nadarr

also FoS on Lachiton and Nadarr for not voting and being off the MK wagon. Yes he was town but he got busted lying (multiple times at that) and you two plus SM did not cast a vote for him.

You really think me not joining a sure shot wagon makes me a suspect? Yes I had multiple chances to vote him but he was already up for deadline lynch. What good would have happened with me joining in? Secure it more than it already was?

Yes if someone unvoted then I might have chipped in but I didn't feel the need because there was no danger of it ever happening. If you feel otherwise, you can check my posts from previous day.

Also I would like to remind you that with 7 players left we are close to lylo. If we have 2 more scums we have one more mislynch. If we have SK too, today is lylo. Unless we have a vig who can balance the kill but he/she has to be sure and lucky.

what bothered me the most about you was the amount of lurking you did and then you basically did not comment much at all about the MK situation until it was basically a foregone conclusion that he was going to be lynched. My vote isnt on you as in my eyes SM was still more suspicions than you, and now with her "role claim" and actions that basically contradicts itself I think we have pretty solid evidence that SM is scum

Oh boy that lurking shit again? I am on my phone most of the time and there's sometimes lots of post to go through. I generally avoid writing long posts if I can. And no I didn't wait to post before it was a foregone conclusion. You might want to go through them again. CM went after MK initially and am pretty sure I commented on that. Yes I was not outright sure about MK. But when Kverst posted his findings, MK lies were exposed. All my posts were trying to get more out of MK but he kinda threw the towel in. If I had voted then it would have been before Robert and Rafay, but as I said I didn't feel the need.

[Rafay]

I agree with SM.

 

Vote: brewsersalliance

[Lachiton]

@SM you investigated both brewers and Medved and got not guilty? But since you got guilty on Robert you believe you're insane?

No, she said she got a guilty on medved, which would mean he would be town if she was actually telling the truth.

N4 - I investigated Col. Medved and got a guilty

Ok. So why she has FoS on Medved? She needs to clarify what she meant there.

[brewersalliance]

I agree with SM.

 

Vote: brewsersalliance

any reasons why or just because lol

[Lachiton]

I agree with SM.

Vote: brewsersalliance

any reasons why or just because lol

You don't question the GOAT!

But Rafay you believe SM's cop claim? We had 2 false claims before. I don't know whether I should believe them at face value anymore lol.

[brewersalliance]

 

 

@SM you investigated both brewers and Medved and got not guilty? But since you got guilty on Robert you believe you're insane?

No, she said she got a guilty on medved, which would mean he would be town if she was actually telling the truth.

N4 - I investigated Col. Medved and got a guilty

Ok. So why she has FoS on Medved? She needs to clarify what she meant there.

 

I think its pretty obvious why-she made up her RC and screwed up her argument while trying to frame me.  She forgot that a not guilty is what would have meant medved was town and wrote she got a guilty on him.  it is a pretty convincing argument on her part, but the whole medved thing blows it out of the water, and basically confirms that she is scum and its made up.

Tho I am curious to see what she says here tho and what attempt she makes to try to backtrack out of the lie.  

 

and as Lachiton pointed out, we are basically at lylo if there is a SK, (tho if scum and the SK hit each other we would still have a chance)  so we need to make sure we get this right.   we are to the point where scum can make a play like this to force a mislynch of a townie.  obviously if im lynched you will see im town and know SM made the entire RC up, but the game will basically be over for the town, so its well worth the risk by her to do so.

 

As for rafay agreeing with SM, im really curious

 

@Rafay, what do you think of SM completely contradicting her entire roleclaim by saying she got a guilty on medved so that means she also thinks he is scum, even tho she thinks she is an insane cop, which would mean Medved is actually town