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Wanted to check TW to see what I got compared to Velocity, but was afraid they may have a framer or another role that would give me false info since he would be a good choice to investigate.

Last night I investigated Col Med, Guilty

Vote: SBG

He should of been lynched yesterday, he wasn't which makes me think he likely is scum even more


That’s very interesting, Rhizo. I think that both of us may be insane cops because I also investigated CM...

Guilty.

Unless we are both sane cops and got 3 scum... or there’s a framer in play and we’re both sane.

 

 

 

Well damn, think at this point we gotta find out.  I'm still with lynching SBG especially after he survived the lynch yesterday, and we can go from there.  At least will give us the information we need


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So every result has been guilty so far and were still trying to lynch me off a guilty result? It's obvious the results are being skewed by a PR or modifier(s) somehow.

Anyway, as I used my 1 shot to avoid death in hope that's Velocity would investigate me and see I was town, I'll roleclaim.

I am Brandi Love, a 1-shot Deathproof Town MILF. I let my 1 shot be used as a lynchproof shot to survive in hopes Velocity would investigate me.

I want to note I got no confirmation that my 1 shot was used up and may have been saved by some other means. Or Brewers just wont let me know I'm not deathproof anymore.

Either way, lynching me will lose another townie (were already down 2.)

I still find it odd we have 2 cops, and every result being guilty so far is questionable. Either one is lying or other factors are at play.


It's worth noting Velocity claimed cop right as he was about to be lynched, and goes as far to claim he investigated and got the same result as Rhizo tonight.

I'm believing Velocity is the liar here and is faking results to keep himself alive and take townies out in the process.

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So every result has been guilty so far and were still trying to lynch me off a guilty result? It's obvious the results are being skewed by a PR or modifier(s) somehow.

Anyway, as I used my 1 shot to avoid death in hope that's Velocity would investigate me and see I was town, I'll roleclaim.

I am Brandi Love, a 1-shot Deathproof Town MILF. I let my 1 shot be used as a lynchproof shot to survive in hopes Velocity would investigate me.

I want to note I got no confirmation that my 1 shot was used up and may have been saved by some other means. Or Brewers just wont let me know I'm not deathproof anymore.

Either way, lynching me will lose another townie (were already down 2.)

I still find it odd we have 2 cops, and every result being guilty so far is questionable. Either one is lying or other factors are at play.


It's worth noting Velocity claimed cop right as he was about to be lynched, and goes as far to claim he investigated and got the same result as Rhizo tonight.

I'm believing Velocity is the liar here and is faking results to keep himself alive and take townies out in the process.

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Yes, but if I was going to fake a claim on day one, why would I fake a cop claim? That would be one of the riskiest things I could claim that early on, and why would I fake a result on TW who was one of the few people that decided to change his mind and not suspect me after my claim?

Yeah there’s a big payoff if I managed to get TW lynched as town while I was scum, as he’s active and a good townie, but there's a bigger risk involved as well, as he’s very good at claiming to be town if he is or even isn’t town. If I was scum I wouldn’t sacrifice one for one or even two if I could avoid it, I don’t know about you.

On top of that, i investigated CM because some focus was shifted onto him near the end of D2, and I didn’t want to investigate Rhizo in case he was targeted by scum and killed, which would make my result naught for anything other than if I was insane or paranoid or something else, and there were better choices than
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Also also, if I was trying to survive why would I try and copy the results that Rhizi, the other cop, got when we believed that one of us is getting wrong results and the other is getting right results, I could’ve used it to sew chaos if I was only claiming to be a cop, but I’m not. I am a cop, and I did investigate CM last night with a guilty result.

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You would've died on D1 anyway with the way the lynch was heading. Scum had nothing to lose and everything to gain with a fake claim as a cop. Of course, Rhizo is the one who got the wrong result on me (not you) however, it just seems fishy to me that you would claim cop that early, and your results have all been guilty AND you've managed to hit the same target as Rhizo on the same day.

As far as sewing chaos, that would be a goal of scum.
I'm not sold on anyone being scum right now but the red flags seem the worst in your case to me.

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She was horny and looking for Johnny Sins to plow her.
 

 

Did Brewers explain how night actions work? The role and flavor make it sound like the cock/role blocker was targeting Rhizo/Sins.



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Anyone who has survived a lynch and past games have been scum.  I expect the same is to be said about SBG


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Anyone who has survived a lynch and past games have been scum.  I expect the same is to be said about SBG

 

This is very true. Also with deathproof he would also be immune to a vig kill....

 

At the moment I don't want to place a vote because I still think that SBG is scum but I am also starting to question a few other players.


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So the lynchproof ability has popped up here too?
Well, i have no more doubts.

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How many votes are required for the lynch?

Also, I got confirmation from Brewers that my 1 shot was not used. He wont confirm it here because that would confirm my role and be game breaking (dont see how).

With votes seeming to come quick, I'd rather not have a wagon close the day early and end with a no lynch again. Someone has a PR that kept me alive (possibly a vote thief). Either way someone out there knows what kept me alive and that I'm not lying.

If you do plan to lynch me, if Velocity is a cop, I'm interested to see his results on me.

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CM could also be a miller.


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Wow, there is a lot to consider here:

  • We have two claimed cops who have yet to receive a "Not Guilty" result out of 3 unique investigations (and claim to have investigated the same person last night).
  • We have 2 people who are saying that the "Guilty" results on them are incorrect.
  • We have a note from the mod that says various sanities are likely in play.
  • We have someone who managed to avoid a lynch.

If Velocity and Rhizo are both truly cops, I believe that at least one of them has to be receiving doctored results. I can't speak for SBG but I know that Velocity received an incorrect result on me. I voted for SBG yesterday because I thought that maybe only one of the two claimed cops would be receiving doctored results. Since I know that I am town, that would have meant that it was indeed Velocity receiving incorrect results and therefore Rhizo's guilty result on SBG was accurate.

 

However, we have yet to see a "Not Guilty" result from a supposed cop, there could be several things going on:

  1. One or both of the cops are Paranoid. This would explain all of the negative results. This possibility can be mostly ruled out if either of the cops can manage to produce a "Not Guilty" result.
  2. One or both of the cops is Insane. Could also explain all of the negative results if the cops are hitting all townies.
  3. One of the cops is receiving doctored results due to a sanity modifier and the other isn't.
  4. There is a tailor/framer in play causing even more havoc.
  5. There is a miller in the game.
  6. One or both of the claimed cops aren't being truthful about their roles. In this case, it is more likely that Velocity would be lying than Rhizo.
    1. Velocity claims cop while he was being gangbanged which would almost certainly save himself from lynch even if he was counterclaimed.
    2. Velocity then fabricates a guilty claim on a townie to hopefully take away at least one big threat to the scum team before he eventually dies.
    3. Velocity claims to have investigated the same second target that Rhizo (the real cop) investigated and received the same result. Would help provide cover for his role claim to make it last longer.

If we assume that both Velocity and Rhizo are telling the truth about their roles and their investigative results, we can be almost positive that at least one of them is receiving fake results. Two sane town cops in a game with 12 players would be way too OP. Of the options, I think that it's most likely that we are dealing with scenario 1, 2, or 3 above. We might be able to sort out the sanity situation through additional investigations if the two cops start receiving different results than they previously have been. Having said that, options 4, 5, and 6 are in play right now as well, just less likely.

 

I believe that, at a minimum, Velocity is being affected by a sanity. We need to figure out the best strategy for Velocity and Rhizo to use moving forward so that we can start verifying or discrediting some claims. Considering everything right now, I'm still inclined to vote for SBG because if one cop's results are accurate, it's Rhizo. It's still early in the day though so I will be holding my vote for now to consider anything else that comes up.


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I believe that, at a minimum, Velocity is being affected by a sanity. We need to figure out the best strategy for Velocity and Rhizo to use moving forward so that we can start verifying or discrediting some claims. Considering everything right now, I'm still inclined to vote for SBG because if one cop's results are accurate, it's Rhizo. It's still early in the day though so I will be holding my vote for now to consider anything else that comes up.

 

What if they are both scum playing the town. Shouldn't mafia have killed them both??

 

Wanted to check TW to see what I got compared to Velocity, but was afraid they may have a framer or another role that would give me false info since he would be a good choice to investigate.   Last night I investigated Col Med, Guilty   Vote:  SBG   He should of been lynched yesterday, he wasn't which makes me think he likely is scum even more

 

You got guilty on CM and you're voting for SBG? 


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I believe that, at a minimum, Velocity is being affected by a sanity. We need to figure out the best strategy for Velocity and Rhizo to use moving forward so that we can start verifying or discrediting some claims. Considering everything right now, I'm still inclined to vote for SBG because if one cop's results are accurate, it's Rhizo. It's still early in the day though so I will be holding my vote for now to consider anything else that comes up.

 

What if they are both scum playing the town. Shouldn't mafia have killed them both??

This is a possibility as well. I didn't include it because I think it's less likely than the rest of the options for a couple reasons. It would require a very elaborate coordinated plan and it would basically require there to not be another person claiming cop to potentially discredit them in any way.

 

However, you raise an interesting point that after two nights neither of them has died (granted: Rhizo didn't claim until day 2 so only Velocity's role was "known" on night 1). It is interesting that neither of them seems to have been targeted last night though. Even if there was the possibility that a protective role would target one of them, you'd think that the scum team would try to get rid of one or both of them as soon as possible.

 

You got guilty on CM and you're voting for SBG?

He received a guilty result on SBG the first night. There probably wasn't much of a reason for Rhizo to change his vote since he received the same result on SBG and SBG survived a lynch.


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However, you raise an interesting point that after two nights neither of them has died (granted: Rhizo didn't claim until day 2 so only Velocity's role was "known" on night 1). It is interesting that neither of them seems to have been targeted last night though. Even if there was the possibility that a protective role would target one of them, you'd think that the scum team would try to get rid of one or both of them as soon as possible.  

 

Maybe the scum thought that a role blocker was more dangerous than a cop? 


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So much information. At this point I don't know if it is smart to try to lynch SBG right now. I don't know whether to believe if he is one shot or not, but I do believe that he is deathproof. We should possibly look into someone else for the time being.


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How many votes are required for the lynch?

Also, I got confirmation from Brewers that my 1 shot was not used. He wont confirm it here because that would confirm my role and be game breaking (dont see how).

With votes seeming to come quick, I'd rather not have a wagon close the day early and end with a no lynch again. Someone has a PR that kept me alive (possibly a vote thief). Either way someone out there knows what kept me alive and that I'm not lying.

If you do plan to lynch me, if Velocity is a cop, I'm interested to see his results on me.

 

 

Of course you would like Velocity to check you, you probably have a tailor role and hope to use it on yourself so that you come back town to Velocity.  My guess is you probably used it last night on TW hoping I'd get conflicting results on him from Velocity which is the exact reason I didn't.  Broadcasting who a town is going to investigate is literally the worst possible thing.  This is all this is.

 

The rest is just stuff to make people afraid of killing you, saying you didn't use your power.  The fact is you used your power, and now are making something up that we all know the Mod can't reveal.  

 

A vote thief wouldn't of stopped your kill, you literally got lynched because of numbers.  The mere fact the game wouldn't probably end if someone stole a vote given one didn't count, and even still you were more then enough votes to be lynched by 1/2 majority even if a vote was taken away.  

 

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I believe that, at a minimum, Velocity is being affected by a sanity. We need to figure out the best strategy for Velocity and Rhizo to use moving forward so that we can start verifying or discrediting some claims. Considering everything right now, I'm still inclined to vote for SBG because if one cop's results are accurate, it's Rhizo. It's still early in the day though so I will be holding my vote for now to consider anything else that comes up.

 

What if they are both scum playing the town. Shouldn't mafia have killed them both??

 

 

 

Wanted to check TW to see what I got compared to Velocity, but was afraid they may have a framer or another role that would give me false info since he would be a good choice to investigate.   Last night I investigated Col Med, Guilty   Vote:  SBG   He should of been lynched yesterday, he wasn't which makes me think he likely is scum even more

 

You got guilty on CM and you're voting for SBG? 

 

 

 

Let's look at this.  If they lynched either of us, it would reveal our role and our sanity.  If we're sane and we now have busted 2 of them(3 now), killing one of us does not help them, as it reveal our results were true.  Let alone, you see from SBG's comment why they maybe kept Velocity alive, to try to make him investigate him tonight so they can use a tailor role on SBG to get a different result then me, and you see him now trying to throw suspicion as well on Velocity as a fake cop.  Killing us only means today the person we already revealed is scum would be easily lynched as it would reveal our sanity upon death.  Instead they can hope to push a mislynch today, pushing their lynch one more day.  They wouldn't try to lynch Velocity N1 anyway, as he was outed as a cop and they would be very unwise to try to kill him when a Doctor role is in most games and come out D2 with no night kills.  

 

They also maybe have a RB ability to stop one of our investigations, and Canik RB'd them before he died.  And who knows, maybe they had a Vig shot as well and used either their Vig shot/normal shot on me or Velocity and doctor stopped it.

 

 

And yes, I got guilty on Col Medved and I'm voting SBG.  SBG is the safest vote, he should of got lynched yesterday and he wasn't.  If he had a lynchproof or deathproof ability, it is now used, he is the best choice with a guilty result and him already using his life saving ability yesterday on lynch.  We need to lynch 1 of the 3 people who was found guilty so we can confirm our sanity and he's best choice.  

 

At this point, I don't trust all 3 of them.  I think both Velocity and I are sane.  TW is trying his hardest to not tie himself to SBG throwing accusations out and everything to not be lynched, but he sure is trying to help push any suspicion he can subtly.  


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So much information. At this point I don't know if it is smart to try to lynch SBG right now. I don't know whether to believe if he is one shot or not, but I do believe that he is deathproof. We should possibly look into someone else for the time being.

 

 

He isn't God, nor is he invincible.  He either has a 1-shot lynchproof or death modifier and it was used.  Brewers wouldn't make it where he can't by lynched, he got saved yesterday, his safety is gone.  He merely wants to claim Brewers said he didn't use the ability knowing Brewers can't reveal that information and to help take it off him.  He's the safest vote out of the 3 in case either of the other two guilty have any 1-shot survivablity modifiers.  His reasoning of a vote theif wouldn't of changed anything, even if someone on his wagon had their vote stolen, he still would have 5 votes, enough for 1/2 majority anyway, there was only 3 needed for 1/2 majority.  His lynchproof/deathproof is now gone, he's the best option.


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