Looks like it's gonna be Pfizer by the end of October...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/sep/8/pfizer-ceoalbert-bourla-best-guess-well-know-effic/

 

Well, some fine people among us might call these people "marks".

I don't know how your entire comment matters to anyone, but I will correct this one small portion...

"Well, some fine people among us might call these people "Marxist". 

 

 

So Marxists are people ignoring scientific best practice and normal health precautions? Don't think the anti-vaxxers in the USA would like your definition

 

Betsy, If you knew the first thing about Karl Marx is that his central thesis was a case for expedite vaccine research. It's plainly outlined in Das Kapital. Maybe you should read once in a while, DUH.

 

Nonesense, his central thesis was unrestrained capitalism, why else would he call his book "Das Kapital"!

 

Looks like it's gonna be Pfizer by the end of October...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/sep/8/pfizer-ceoalbert-bourla-best-guess-well-know-effic/

End of october they hope to get premission for emergency usage (which for a vaccine is sketchy to begin with on a small scale, see Ebola) but there full Stage III trials last until may 2021.

 

Heck if Pfizer gets a good one rolling (still to see, he is going of results from in-vitro Stage II tests) we belgians should storm their manufactory, seeing as it is in Belgium

Pfizer is done with the first 30,000... looking to juice another 14,000 just to make sure.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/pfizer-proposes-expansion-of-late-stage-coronavirus-vaccine-trial/ar-BB18XYeh?ocid=uxbndlbing&pfr=1

 

"The one word that terrifies Democrats... Vaccine" - Mark Levine

Pfizer is done with the first 30,000... looking to juice another 14,000 just to make sure.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/pfizer-proposes-expansion-of-late-stage-coronavirus-vaccine-trial/ar-BB18XYeh?ocid=uxbndlbing&pfr=1

 

"The one word that terrifies Democrats... Vaccine" - Mark Levine

You continue to link articles, but it doesn't seem like you're actually reading them. This is still a third stage trial, NOT the production phase for mass-distribution. Again, a direct quote from the piece:

 

 Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said earlier this month that the pharmaceutical company could have results from its late-stage trial as soon as October. On Saturday, the companies reiterated the possibility that they could have data reflecting whether the vaccine is effective or not by the end of October. However, it could take longer to collect enough data to determine whether the vaccine is safe, because it will take months of follow-up work to determine what kind of side effects, if any, the vaccine may cause.

 

So as much as everybody wants this to go as quickly as possible, mass disdtribution of a vaccine will - by all rational estimates - fall to next year.

It's called "Operation Warp Speed". Phase 3 is the last phase before final approval. They know it already works. My guess is the final approval will take about 24 hours. They have been mass producing millions of doses, in advance, because they already know it works. I don't know how they will deal with it in your country... remember, the USA withdrew from the WHO, because they lied for China.

 

I will not be getting this vaccination. Covid-19 is not nearly as bad as it's been sold. I want this vaccine released ASAP as a big STFU to any, and all, whimpering babies that are using this weak virus to keep the country down to boost their political agenda.

 

Our stupid Governor, Steve Sisolak, has had our entire state under a mask mandate for months. I got a special mask just for his stupid ass... it's says "This mask is as useless as our Governor".

Oh well even without a vaccine we will develop heard mentality, or so I’m told :’D

"Herd Immunity"... I was in favor of that solution from the beginning. Has anyone here actually had the Corona virus?

 

A manager at my wife's restaurant had it. He went and got tested, and they forced him into quarantine for 14 days. My wife got it, and she had it for 5 days. I got it from her, and I was sick for 7 days.

 

Anyone that has died from Covid-19 had one foot in the grave already.

 

It was the strangest flu I have ever had in my life. It started as an upper respiratory lung infection, but it was painful more than anything else. It never developed into that heavy lung congestion where you're coughing up wads of mucous... it just hurt for a couple days, and moved into my throat. It hurt for a couple days, and moved to my head. I lost all taste and sense of smell. It was the strangest flu I ever had because I have never felt anything like it... and I have had everything in my lifetime from the most debilitating flus, to full on pneumonia. Your head gets muddled... you feel like you have a fever, but you don't. The best way to explain it, is you feel like you have an artificial flu... like it's not real. You just feel like shit, at a constant 50%, and then it's gone just as fast as it came. It was really nothing, and extremely mild in comparison to things I have had in the past.

 

I 100% believe it's a manufactured virus. China did this to us, and they should not get away with it.

"Herd Immunity"... I was in favor of that solution from the beginning. Has anyone here actually had the Corona virus?

 

A manager at my wife's restaurant had it. He went and got tested, and they forced him into quarantine for 14 days. My wife got it, and she had it for 5 days. I got it from her, and I was sick for 7 days.

 

Anyone that has died from Covid-19 had one foot in the grave already.

 

It was the strangest flu I have ever had in my life. It started as an upper respiratory lung infection, but it was painful more than anything else. It never developed into that heavy lung congestion where you're coughing up wads of mucous... it just hurt for a couple days, and moved into my throat. It hurt for a couple days, and moved to my head. I lost all taste and sense of smell. It was the strangest flu I ever had because I have never felt anything like it... and I have had everything in my lifetime from the most debilitating flus, to full on pneumonia. Your head gets muddled... you feel like you have a fever, but you don't. The best way to explain it, is you feel like you have an artificial flu... like it's not real. You just feel like shit, at a constant 50%, and then it's gone just as fast as it came. It was really nothing, and extremely mild in comparison to things I have had in the past.

 

I 100% believe it's a manufactured virus. China did this to us, and they should not get away with it.

I'm very glad to hear you and your wife made a full recovery!

Glad you made a full recovery Lys, and thanks for sharing your experience!

Thanks guys, but it was really nothing. It happened a couple months ago, and we were more concerned about the 92 year old veteran that we are care-givers for. He must have an absolute immunity, because he never had a single symptom. It came on really fast. Eddie is the manager, he's an immigrant from Guatemala, and an amazing man. Pretty strange because he was such a maniac about the mask and gloves... I mean, hazmat maniac... and he got it anyway. When he dropped with a positive test, my wife was a wreck, because she knew she was next... and I knew I was next. In all cases, it was nothing.

 

This is so politically over-blown it's criminal... and a complete disaster for everyone. This must end.

My colleage just called that her test came back positive. She's been working from home since last Tuesday. She didn't have the best time of her life for a couple of days, but nothing too serious. Nobody else has shown any symptoms although my head did hurt for a day. I'm pretty sure I what I and several other colleagues had WAY BACK in December was in fact COVID and we still have the immunity from then.

Pfizer is done with the first 30,000... looking to juice another 14,000 just to make sure.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/pfizer-proposes-expansion-of-late-stage-coronavirus-vaccine-trial/ar-BB18XYeh?ocid=uxbndlbing&pfr=1

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Pfizer is done recruiting 30k people for phase III. A tad different from actually completing phase III...

 

I just got all my ingredients present and cut and you want to start eating the pizza I am going to make.

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It's called "Operation Warp Speed". Phase 3 is the last phase before final approval. They know it already works. My guess is the final approval will take about 24 hours. They have been mass producing millions of doses, in advance, because they already know it works. I don't know how they will deal with it in your country... remember, the USA withdrew from the WHO, because they lied for China.

 

I will not be getting this vaccination. Covid-19 is not nearly as bad as it's been sold. I want this vaccine released ASAP as a big STFU to any, and all, whimpering babies that are using this weak virus to keep the country down to boost their political agenda.

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Yes about a dozen pharmaceutical company's are already producing 100's of millions of vaccines, ready to distribute when proper vetting has been done thruwout all the stages of the trials. Guess its is that American exceptionalism thats thinking that only the US is actually thinking ahead.

 

Also let me add this, the CDC's Director himself.

 

Also who is doing the "overselling" of COVID-19? Is it the health officials or is it the Trump administration who wants you to think the Democrats find it the next world ending disaster?

 

Anyone who wants to make this thing out as Ebola or SARS has indeed overselled it, but strangly I don't recall hearing such overreactions unless from Republican speakers trying to tie this to a hoax.

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"Herd Immunity"... I was in favor of that solution from the beginning. Has anyone here actually had the Corona virus?

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At the current recorded population infection rate, you'd need atleast 5x the mortality to come close to herd immunity (I am going for a 10% infection rate). Who is going to convene those death panels?

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A manager at my wife's restaurant had it. He went and got tested, and they forced him into quarantine for 14 days. My wife got it, and she had it for 5 days. I got it from her, and I was sick for 7 days.

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And it is great that you got away from this not just with your life but with no continued issues, sadly there is an ever increasing % of the recovering patients who need months if not years of continued support due to varous pulmonary or cardiovascular issues that pop up from this bug.

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Anyone that has died from Covid-19 had one foot in the grave already.

 

It was the strangest flu I have ever had in my life. It started as an upper respiratory lung infection, but it was painful more than anything else. It never developed into that heavy lung congestion where you're coughing up wads of mucous... it just hurt for a couple days, and moved into my throat. It hurt for a couple days, and moved to my head. I lost all taste and sense of smell. It was the strangest flu I ever had because I have never felt anything like it... and I have had everything in my lifetime from the most debilitating flus, to full on pneumonia. Your head gets muddled... you feel like you have a fever, but you don't. The best way to explain it, is you feel like you have an artificial flu... like it's not real. You just feel like shit, at a constant 50%, and then it's gone just as fast as it came. It was really nothing, and extremely mild in comparison to things I have had in the past.

 

I 100% believe it's a manufactured virus. China did this to us, and they should not get away with it.

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Yeah people don't usually die from a virus but from complications or organ failures due to our body's overreaction (read inflamation) to the disease.

 

Also it isn't a flu, it just has (some) flu like symptoms. Losing taste is a big indicator it isn't actually an influenza virus, those don't do that.

 

And as for manufactured, let me quote another thread:

MHWUAHAHHAHAHA

So, the WH has become a COVID spreading hotspot...

So, the WH has become a COVID spreading hotspot...

Don't worry. A couple doses of Hydroxychloroquine, and everyone will be back on their feet in no time!

My wife just called me... laughing her ass off.

 

It appears that our asshole Governor Steve Sisolak, the guy who believes that wearing a stupid mask will prevent you from getting covid... well here's the onion... the idiot Nevada Governor Steve Sisolak, now has covid. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

I would like to ask my Canadian friends... "How real is this?" This is about as scary as it can get.

https://parler.com/post/49df995711514a70a14ae5d05fde6e5d?fbclid=IwAR3nrIQJfIPB1di26s5uLYSDAT6B5gL0EvSVQT5I9sIn6bDoRgju9NuEf_w

I would like to ask my Canadian friends... "How real is this?" This is about as scary as it can get.

https://parler.com/post/49df995711514a70a14ae5d05fde6e5d?fbclid=IwAR3nrIQJfIPB1di26s5uLYSDAT6B5gL0EvSVQT5I9sIn6bDoRgju9NuEf_w

 

This guy is a shit stirring moron. 

lol parler

 

also, will this be before or after JFK safes Trump's WH?

lmfao, "concentration camps". We already have those, we've been putting immigrants in them for years now.

 

In regards to the "herd immunity" idea, in a majority of cases of covid it's exactly as you described it Lys, a flu, maybe slightly more severe, and that's it. The mortality rate in the United states is about 2.2%. The problem is that breaking it down into those numbers ignores a number of things going on. We have observed permanent damage suffered from having had covid in patients who have survived it. That aside, some quick math tells me that based on the population of the United States, we can expect a little over 7.2 million people to die when its all said and done. Is that an acceptable outcome? Are we willing to sacrifice that many people because we are inconvenienced by the precautions we are having to take? 

Thanks gang... I wanted to know what Canada has to say about it. It would have a problem here in the USA... we have guns, and bankruptcy laws. Dismissing it because it's off Parler is as stupid as believing it because it's from CNN, or banned from Twitter. It was sent to me from an extremely reliable source, so I sought corroboration from our Canadian neighbors, because they are the ones most targeted with this charge. And next...

 

 

also, will this be before or after JFK safes Trump's WH?

What the fuck does that mean? 

I think its supposed to make as much sense as that video. Your source could be credible but that I doubt that video is. He's talking about Covid as a hoax and then says something about concentration camps (going to be entirely honest I couldn't keep watching at that point, I was too busy laughing). You said you had covid, you should know better than most that it isn't a hoax. You can accuse people of being alarmist and overblowing the whole thing, I would disagree, but that's a discussion worth having that makes logical sense based on your experience. To outright call it a hoax basically signals that nobody should listen to you imo.

Thanks gang... I wanted to know what Canada has to say about it. It would have a problem here in the USA... we have guns, and bankruptcy laws. Dismissing it because it's off Parler is as stupid as believing it because it's from CNN, or banned from Twitter. It was sent to me from an extremely reliable source, so I sought corroboration from our Canadian neighbors, because they are the ones most targeted with this charge. And next...

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Parler is a right-wing reactions to being "censored" off twitter (lets ignore they censor aswell...) and trying to be "free speech for the supressed". The entire thing is filled with the same 3 groups that made twitter a nightmare for many: conspiracy theorists, mindless zealots and trolls.

 

Basically, the video talks about various dates and timelines, you could just wait and see the nothingness it bares in reality. Heck most critical thinking people don't even need to wait for evidence, they can actually understand that it is a nutcase theory.

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also, will this be before or after JFK safes Trump's WH?

What the fuck does that mean?

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Atleast you react to that line like I'd hope you would. I emplore you to not try and find out what that line actually means, some rabbit holes are meant to stay closed...

 

 

You said you had covid, you should know better than most that it isn't a hoax.

The virus is real... what is a hoax is that it's some kind of ultra-killer, and we have to surrender our lives to the decisions of the unelected few, so they can practice population control. It's not an ultra-killer... it's the weakest flu I ever had, and I've had some really bad ones.

 

And I guess by listening to this ass we can all see some truth to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2fp0Jeyjvw&feature=emb_logo

It was my date night with my wife tonight... I was very gone for several hours, so I did not see this until now, but I'm not the only one that heard about this today. Tucker Carlson led his show with it, and he includes the ass from the previous video I posted. So... more truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91JFExJYyqU

 

It looks like You Tube is trying very hard to limit distribution of this video. I had to repost it.

Okay... this is the second time I had to repost this... they really don't want people to see this.

Like I said before you are more than welcome to hold that opinion Lys, you had the virus so you would know more personally than I would about what that experience is like. I think the problem with Covid is that it isn't some ultra killer, but it is extremely contagious as evidenced by the person who spread it to your wife being someone you thought taking things very seriously and he still got it. We don't have any good ways to treat it and it's ability to spread makes it dangerous. The percentages of people who get bad enough cases to die or have serious and lasting problems is low, but when applied to entire populations those small percentages translate to millions of people dead. We needed to take it seriously across our entire population for a month in order to stop its rampant spread and get it contained. Due to political division on how to handle the virus, and the idea that the entire thing was a hoax, many people didn't take it seriously allowed it to continue to spread. We're now 7 months in and still haven't been able to contain it.

 

 

Since I don't think I said it before, I'm glad you and your family came through alright after catching the virus.