I don't think I'm defending China, also it would still be 2019

I actually had 2019 first and changed it thinking I was getting it wrong... thank you for the correction. I hate getting it wrong.

 

 

Are you reading what I'm typing or responding to the points you think I'm going to respond with?

I'm responding to the whole idea that we would possibly openly admit to be spying on China... that's never gonna happen, plus it opens the door wide open for China to claim that we released the virus on them because it's obvious we're watching for it's effect.

 

Smoke and mirrors my friend. Fauci gave the virus to China... China released the virus.

 

Clark County Commission, this includes Las Vegas, laid down a mask mandate yesterday for employers to force employees to wear masks regardless of vaccinations. They openly admit that this mandate will do nothing but inconvenience employees in an effort to force vaccines. The only thing it will do is make it harder to get people to do the jobs... and fuel the already burning civil rebellion against the government... I'm not anyone's employee, so it's no effect on me. Stupid Democrats.

 

I don't think I'm defending China, also it would still be 2019

I actually had 2019 first and changed it thinking I was getting it wrong... thank you for the correction. I hate getting it wrong.

 

 

Are you reading what I'm typing or responding to the points you think I'm going to respond with?

I'm responding to the whole idea that we would possibly openly admit to be spying on China... that's never gonna happen, plus it opens the door wide open for China to claim that we released the virus on them because it's obvious we're watching for it's effect.

 

Smoke and mirrors my friend. Fauci gave the virus to China... China released the virus.

 

Clark County Commission, this includes Las Vegas, laid down a mask mandate yesterday for employers to force employees to wear masks regardless of vaccinations. They openly admit that this mandate will do nothing but inconvenience employees in an effort to force vaccines. The only thing it will do is make it harder to get people to do the jobs... and fuel the already burning civil rebellion against the government... I'm not anyone's employee, so it's no effect on me. Stupid Democrats.

 

 

The problem with mandating that non-vaccinated people only wear masks is that the people who don't want to get vaccinated can abuse laws to not disclose their vaccination status, or just raise hell about how they are being forced to be vaccinated, because masks are such an oppression. I just wish people would go out and get the virus and get sick/die if they are unwilling to get vaccinated when its free and provided for them, or get vaccinated so I can get on with life. I got my vaccination. 

the people who don't want to get vaccinated can abuse laws to not disclose their vaccination status

There is no such law... nor will there ever be. No President, Congress, Governor, State Legislators, City Council, or Mayor, can force anyone to inject a vaccine into their body. They can require proof of vaccination to be allowed to enter a specific location, or to be employed somewhere, or even attend a school, but that would be entirely too Soviet for many to put up with... plus it would be way too easy to create fake documents for it to be effective in any way.

I just wish people would go out and get the virus and get sick/die if they are unwilling to get vaccinated

That is exactly the choice they have made.

I got my vaccination.

Great! Congratulations!  You're welcome! I'm paying for it.

Now get on with your life... please. Now the only thing you need to worry about is... if it will work. 

 

the people who don't want to get vaccinated can abuse laws to not disclose their vaccination status

There is no such law... nor will there ever be. No President, Congress, Governor, State Legislators, City Council, or Mayor, can force anyone to inject a vaccine into their body. They can require proof of vaccination to be allowed to enter a specific location, or to be employed somewhere, or even attend a school, but that would be entirely too Soviet for many to put up with... plus it would be way too easy to create fake documents for it to be effective in any way.

I just wish people would go out and get the virus and get sick/die if they are unwilling to get vaccinated

That is exactly the choice they have made.

I got my vaccination.

Great! Congratulations!  You're welcome! I'm paying for it.

Now get on with your life... please. Now the only thing you need to worry about is... if it will work. 

 

 

 

I pay my own taxes thanks, so I'm just getting something for my tax money for once. 

 

That's the choice they've made but they're taking their sweet time. The current level of activities among unvaccinated people is enough that the virus is still around and a threat. Just wish they'd get it over with all get sick and hopefully let the virus burn out, or get over themselves and get vaccinated so we can move on with life.

The real problem is coming from the 2 million infected illegals that have been allowed to walk into the country during the past 6 months.

 

Our new "mask" mandate is hysterical... The bartender walks into his bar, without a mask, and clocks in. He then puts on a mask and is forced to work his full shift, not breathing, and serving up drinks to hundreds of tourists that are not wearing a mask. When he finally makes it to the end of his shift, he clocks out, takes off the stupid mask, and takes his first clean breath in several hours. He then walks out the back door, takes a sharp left around to the front of the bar, strolls into the entrance of his bar, and spends the next several hours drinking, smoking, coughing, and sneezing all over the same people in the same bar... so people are wearing a mask while they work for the sole purpose of causing friction between vaccinated people, against unvaccinated people.

 

How very Communist of you stupid Democrats.

lolwut. Not sure how that is communist.

 

 

Not sure how that is communist.

I just think "Nazi" has been overused, so I thought I would bring back an old favorite. What would you call it?

 

Democrats have been dividing people into categories to start a fight since we took away their slaves and they created the Ku Klux Klan. Since then we have had Women against Men, Atheists against God, Poor against Rich, Black against White, Gay against Straight, Environmentalists against Everything, Globalists against Nationalists... the list goes on. Now it's Vaccinated against Unvaccinated.

 

Everything has to be a fight.

 

Not sure how that is communist.

I just think "Nazi" has been overused, so I thought I would bring back an old favorite. What would you call it?

 

Democrats have been dividing people into categories to start a fight since we took away their slaves and they created the Ku Klux Klan. Since then we have had Women against Men, Atheists against God, Poor against Rich, Black against White, Gay against Straight, Environmentalists against Everything, Globalists against Nationalists... the list goes on. Now it's Vaccinated against Unvaccinated.

 

Everything has to be a fight.

 

 

I reiterate, lolwut.

 

I just wish people would go out and get the virus and get sick/die if they are unwilling to get vaccinated when its free and provided for them, or get vaccinated so I can get on with life. I got my vaccination.

Its unfortunate I'm getting in your way of enjoying life, so to borrow a phrase from my Liberal friends, "My body my choice".

 

Myself and my family have chosen not to receive a brand new Vaccine which was rushed through development and an expedited approval process. I'm not an Anti Vaxer, vaccines are immensely beneficial and save countless lives. I don't care if its a traditional vaccine or RNA, no one can accurately promise me there aren't long term side effects associated with the new vaccines. Thankfully, potentially dangerous short terms effects seem to be practically 0, but I'll be waiting it out a bit longer. I've taken plenty of precautions to avoid being around potentially sick individuals and to protect myself, therefore I'm not too concerned.

 

There is an old saying, "When times get bad, a person's true feelings come out." Wishing death on myself, my wife, and my 2 children is quite telling about your inner character. The absolute best thing about COVID-19 is showed how even in our advanced, 21st century society, certain human beings still delve into horrible and violent behavior.

 

I choose the high ground. You have a nice rest of your day, Sir.

 

 

I just wish people would go out and get the virus and get sick/die if they are unwilling to get vaccinated when its free and provided for them, or get vaccinated so I can get on with life. I got my vaccination.

Its unfortunate I'm getting in your way of enjoying life, so to borrow a phrase from my Liberal friends, "My body my choice".

 

Myself and my family have chosen not to receive a brand new Vaccine which was rushed through development and an expedited approval process. I'm not an Anti Vaxer, vaccines are immensely beneficial and save countless lives. I don't care if its a traditional vaccine or RNA, no one can accurately promise me there aren't long term side effects associated with the new vaccines. Thankfully, potentially dangerous short terms effects seem to be practically 0, but I'll be waiting it out a bit longer. I've taken plenty of precautions to avoid being around potentially sick individuals and to protect myself, therefore I'm not too concerned.

 

There is an old saying, "When times get bad, a person's true feelings come out." Wishing death on myself, my wife, and my 2 children is quite telling about your inner character. The absolute best thing about COVID-19 is showed how even in our advanced, 21st century society, certain human beings still delve into horrible and violent behavior.

 

I choose the high ground. You have a nice rest of your day, Sir.

 

 

I suppose you are welcome to take hyperbole and apply it to yourself and make it personal. I suppose its my fault for poor choice of words in frustration, but if that is the only point on which you wish to engage, then you aren't here to discuss, you are just highlighting one thing that was said to vilify one side.

 

Its unfortunate I'm getting in your way of enjoying life, so to borrow a phrase from my Liberal friends, "My body my choice".

I like to look at it from this point of view: "You are free to do as you wish, as long as you don't infringe on the liberty of others". Well, from where I stand, that is exactly what unvaccinated people are doing, infringing on not just my liberties and financial security but my safety as well. This is because if a new wave hits, it will largely happen because a significant portion of the population is unvaccinated. To put it plainly, vaccinated people will also be impacted as:

 

- They will also need to suffer through renewed lockdowns, the mask wearing and all other restrictions or at least part of them

- The economy will continue to suffer, endangering jobs and livelihoods

- The virus will continue to circulate and mutate reducing the effectiveness of the existing vaccines

 

I'm sorry to say that you don't exist in a vacuum, you exist in a social context. And while yeah, you will not be forced to take the vaccine if you don't want to, don't expect others to be happy about it for the aforementioned reasons.

If you're so frightened about this, it only means you have no confidence in the product you wish to force on everyone else.

 

I myself, have much more confidence in my very own immune system, that has never let me down. I have lived a long time, and I have had my share of health challenges, but throughout my years, I have learned through experience, that most doctors are narcissists, and anything the Government is so desperate for me to inject into my body is not for my benefit.

 

We have a lot of elected, and appointed people, and they all want to take credit for "saving the world". They can't very well claim that they "saved the world" when half the population has called them out on their bullshit. Lookout for the new Buttcrust variant... that one will be the one to kill us all... and it's all my fault because I didn't take their stupid vaccine. Just continue to live in fear little sheep.

If you're so frightened about this, it only means you have no confidence in the product you wish to force on everyone else.

 

No, it means that I have a basic understanding of Biology.

 

 

No, it means that I have a basic understanding of Biology.

Wonderful! So many Democrats are confused about that... here's an easy one... How many genders do we have?

Please, make a complete list because I don't want to hurt any feelings.

 

No, it means that I have a basic understanding of Biology.

Wonderful! So many Democrats are confused about that... here's an easy one... How many genders do we have?

Please, make a complete list because I don't want to hurt any feelings.

 

 

Ask the biologists. You'll be surprised. 

 

No, it means that I have a basic understanding of Biology.

Wonderful! So many Democrats are confused about that... here's an easy one... How many genders do we have?

Please, make a complete list because I don't want to hurt any feelings.

 

Genders are psyhosocial constructs and they are of no concern to biologists. In terms of sexes there are mostly two (male and female) and a large variety of intersex conditions, although this affects  <0.1% of the population.

So simple, but failed anyway. There are 2... Male and Female.

Any deviation from this are cases of Birth Defect, Mental Illness, or Self Mutilation.

Confusion on this issue can be attributed to the above referenced narcissists... they are either Male or Female as well.

We need to rebuild, and pack to full capacity, our Mental Institutions. That would be a good start.

And yet again, you demonstrate your complete unwillingness to absorb presented facts that go contrary to your beliefs. I’m done arguing with you as there is clearly no point.

 

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To the “vaccine hesitant” I would like to present a last-ditch effort to alleviate your concerns and maybe convince you to do the sane thing here. If you really are honest where you’re coming from, listen to this and think it over once again: https://samharris.org/podcasts/256-contagion-bad-ideas/

 

 

And yet again, you demonstrate your complete unwillingness to absorb presented facts that go contrary to your beliefs. I’m done arguing with you as there is clearly no point.

Well you said you have a "basic" understanding of Biology... and I believe that I am the one that has a basic understanding of Biology.

I asked a basic question, and you came up with the standard non-basic answer. You suffer from a nasty affliction called the "Everybody else is wrong syndrome". It's a very common Progressive derangement.

 

LOL!... Sam Harris again. I'm shocked that I've been able to survive without Sam in my life.

 

And yet again, you demonstrate your complete unwillingness to absorb presented facts that go contrary to your beliefs. I’m done arguing with you as there is clearly no point.

Well you said you have a "basic" understanding of Biology... and I believe that I am the one that has a basic understanding of Biology.

I asked a basic question, and you came up with the standard non-basic answer. You suffer from a nasty affliction called the "Everybody else is wrong syndrome". It's a very common Progressive derangement.

 

LOL!... Sam Harris again. I'm shocked that I've been able to survive without Sam in my life.

 

You needn't listen to the podcast, as you are clearly not "vaccine hesitant". You made up your mind long ago, therefore I recommend that you do not waste your time with fact-based discussion.

 

 

And yet again, you demonstrate your complete unwillingness to absorb presented facts that go contrary to your beliefs. I’m done arguing with you as there is clearly no point.

Well you said you have a "basic" understanding of Biology... and I believe that I am the one that has a basic understanding of Biology.

I asked a basic question, and you came up with the standard non-basic answer. You suffer from a nasty affliction called the "Everybody else is wrong syndrome". It's a very common Progressive derangement.

 

LOL!... Sam Harris again. I'm shocked that I've been able to survive without Sam in my life.

 

You needn't listen to the podcast, as you are clearly not "vaccine hesitant". You made up your mind long ago, therefore I recommend that you do not waste your time with fact-based discussion.

 

 

That implies that Lys is engaging in "fact based" discussion. 

It's becoming quite clear why Democrats don't want the "pandemic" to end...

DOJ indicates it might sue states returning to pre-pandemic voting regulations | Fox News

 

They want to keep all their glorious ways to cheat.

During our lock down, it was a great comfort to be able to log in here and shoot the shit with all of you.

I twas nice to hear that you were dong well.  It meant a lot to me.

 

Now I I see this topic has become politicized and divisive.  People have divided by their respective ideologies and beliefs. 

Let me be very frank.

Hell, let me be brutally honest.

Some of you know what I am, some more of you don't.

For the record, I am a soldier.  More specifically I am a Canadian Armed Forces Master Corporal Material Management Technician.

This is the mode I choose to speak in.

I'm very proud of that.

I'm proud that I've earned the privilege of wearing this uniform.

I'm very proud of the rank I've earned.

I'm very proud that I'm about to receive a decoration.

I'm very proud of what I do.

I love my job.  I get up every morning and I look forward to going to work.

I'm very proud that I am a guardian of your rights and freedoms. 

I'll pay with my very life to protect them.  That's the promise I made, that's the promise I'll keep.

 

Then I see the comments that have been left here.

Frankly, it fills me with disgust.

It makes me question what I'm doing.  Why am I guarding you, when you are unwilling to guard me?

I got my vaccine, I wear my mask.  Not because I have to, but because its my duty.

 

If you truly "Support the Troops", then take  the advice given by health professionals.

If you don't, for ideological reasons, then you are no different from the POS in downtown Fredericton who called me a "Baby Killer", and spit in my face.

 

 

I'm very proud that I am a guardian of your rights and freedoms.  I'll pay with my very life to protect them.  That's the promise I made, that's the promise I'll keep.

Sorry my friend, but I'm an American, born in the USA, and I'll stay here until I die. You're not the "guardian of my rights and freedoms", but I'm sure you have plenty of Canadians that feel good about those Progressive talking points you're preaching, and that you have their back... now you can please stay off of mine.

 

 

Then I see the comments that have been left here. Frankly, it fills me with disgust.

Wouldn't it be so much better if everyone would think the same way as you? The nerve of these people that have a different opinion as a Master Corporal, sworn in blood to be the guardian of our rights.

 

 

It makes me question what I'm doing.  Why am I guarding you, when you are unwilling to guard me?

I always know what I'm doing, and I have no need for anyone to guard me. If I do need guarding at any time, I have several friends that are Police right on my block. I won't be calling on the Canucks to guard me. I promise to stay at least 6 feet of social distancing away from you at all times, and feel free to keep a mask on... most people actually need them.

 

 

I got my vaccine, I wear my mask.  Not because I have to, but because its my duty.

You bought into that bullshit? I bet you also believe that paying taxes is patriotic. Am I right?

The one that nauseates me the most is "We're all in this together"... what a pile of horseshit.

 

 

If you truly "Support the Troops", then take  the advice given by health professionals.

So if I support the troops I must follow the advice of health professionals? Which health professionals do I have to follow? Naturally you think I must follow the advice of the health professionals you follow? But since my rights and freedoms are guarded by the US Constitution, I really don't have to follow the advice of anyone. Plus... what about all the troops that choose not to get vaccinated? Should we stop supporting them? Progressives say the stupidest things.

Lys, I've seen a lot of what you post here.  I've tried my best to defend what you say. As much as I might disagree with it.  Believe me when I say I do.  I\ have always agreed that  dissent opinions have value.

 

But you  just crossed a line.

 

 

 

Sorry my friend, but I'm an American, born in the USA, and I'll stay here until I die. You're not the "guardian of my rights and freedoms", but I'm sure you have plenty of Canadians that feel good about those Progressive talking points you're preaching, and that you have their back... now you can please stay off of mine.

 

HOW FUCKING DARE YOU!

DON"T YOU DARE SPIT ON THE 158 CANADIAN SOLDIERS WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES IN AFGHANISTAN. 

I know many more who have been scarred by that. I work with some of them.

HOW DARE YOU SPIT ON MY GRANDFATHER WHO WON THE PURPLE HEART!

One of the many medals he won in WWII.  He was a Royal Navy Commando.

How about the Canadian families who sheltered Americans during 9/11?

How about NATO, or NORAD, or UNHC, or the  $292.6 Billion dollars we've contributed to the US Economy under NAFTA?

Sorry, the orange demagogue you still believe is you President, says those don't matter because reasons.

 

 

 

Wouldn't it be so much better if everyone would think the same way as you? The nerve of these people that have a different opinion as a Master Corporal, sworn in blood to be the guardian of our rights.

 

You know you've managed to contradict yourself?  Of course you don't.  You only know how to spew Fox News talking points and whatever right wing talk show radio you listen to.

My opinions a formed by fact, not anger and fear as yours are. 

Yes, anger and fear.  I've read a lot of what you post here. All I see is and angry and fear.

 

 

You bought into that bullshit? I bet you also believe that paying taxes is patriotic. Am I right? The one that nauseates me the most is "We're all in this together"... what a pile of horseshit.

Bullshit?  Why because I'm not afraid to admit there are limits to what I know?  Because I'm willing to listen to a person who knows more than I do?  I do believe that paying taxes is Patriotic.  You know why?  I have the ability  to ensure that those who come after me, have the ability to make something of their selves.  Patriotism means serving your country, before yourself.  Or as President Kennedy said, "Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country,”

Think back to WWII, one of the only reasons we managed to defeat the the scourge of Nazism, Fascism, and  Militarism, is because we were "all in this together." 

 

 

So if I support the troops I must follow the advice of health professionals? Which health professionals do I have to follow? Naturally you think I must follow the advice of the health professionals you follow? But since my rights and freedoms are guarded by the US Constitution, I really don't have to follow the advice of anyone. Plus... what about all the troops that choose not to get vaccinated? Should we stop supporting them? Progressives say the stupidest things.

Lys, I don't give a damn which health professional you follow. As long as that health professional obtained their degree from a credentialed centre of higher learning.  Not some fucking fool who spent an afternoon on the couch consulting with good old Dr. Google, or the reddit school of medicine.

Lys, the Constitution is not a suicide pact.  There are times when the greater good must outweigh the benefit of the individual.  That was something your Founding Fathers respected and admired.  It was something your (grand),father respected.  If you so choose, please go to your local library and check out the following book "Second Treatise on Government" by John Locke (the founding father of  Liberalism),  If you choose to read that book, you'll see a lot of similarities between it and the "Deceleration of Independence" and your Constitution.

Lys, few troops will choose to not be vaccinated.  We know what's at stake.  No, we can't be ordered.  My unit's vaccine rate is 100%.

We know what it means, to serve our country before ourselves.

You want to call me a progressive that's fine. I'm more accurately defined as a Red Tory.  Frankly, I really don't give a damn.

And I don't. 

At this point I'm done.  I done arguing with you.  I'm done wasting my time trying to come up with salient points to your nonsensical arguments.  I'm done with your talking points,  I'm done with your labelling.  I'm done with your constant deflections.  I'm done with your incessant need to win.

Lys, I think you're a good person.  I'd love to have you and your wife over to the house for a BBQ and some tasty beers.

Just let's not talk politics.