While the topic of the day is of course COVID-19, the 2020 US presidential elections are fast approaching. I've created a topic to discuss anything related to that, and to update as events unfold.

 

So, it's still early days, what are everyone's thoughts? What topic will dominate the discussions? (IMO: the Economy and jobs, all the way) Who will be Biden's VP nominee? (My guess: Amy Klobuchar) Will the elections be close? (IMO: Incredibly, Biden is a much more palatable candidate for many than Hillary Clinton), etc.

 

Also, KEEP IT RESPECTFUL. The point is not to win a debate, but to share your point of view.

Lines are massive. Luck comes to those who care. Our 93 year old Air Force Veteran, that we take care of, was seated in his walker when a poll worker came by and allowed us in immediately. We promptly went to the Gold Coast for mimosas and 4 Card Keno and won some bucks. Wife is making a pot of chili... got some spicy dogs... too many bottles of Merlot, Zin, and Cab. We're set for the day.

My final predictions for the elections

 

Trump 279 (will lose MI, NE-2 & WI from 2016)

Biden 259 (wins MI, WI & NE-2 plus all 2016 Hillary states)

 

GOP gets 51 senate seats

 

Dems get 245 House seats.

 

No chance in hell of landslides for either party

I love my country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu33NQY075w&feature=emb_logo

A British former banker has bet 5 million dollars on Trump to win. Do you think maybe he might know something we don't?

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/british-gambler-bets-5-million-on-trump-in-biggest-ever-political-wager

The way the swing states votes are coming in, I think I have enough to make a prediction.

 

Trump wins with 286 while Biden gets 252. The only wildcard I potentially see is Wisconsin, if Biden can pull ahead in Wisconsin (only 47% of the vote is in) then Biden gets 262 while Trump would get 276.

 

Going to be a very close race, but the majority of the rest of the swing states already have relatively clear majorities.

Looks like Biden may flip WI & AZ. 

 

But Trump is doing really well rn.

Looks like Biden may flip WI & AZ. 

 

But Trump is doing really well rn.

Biden will definitely take Arizona. 73% reported and Biden is at 53.6%.

I wish there was a live video feed of Chuck Schumer tonight. His entire skull must be blown all over his ceiling.

 

The polling people learned nothing from 2016. Entire polling industries will be forever shuttered. Nate Silver will now be Nate Bronze for the rest of his life. I can't believe they allowed themselves to be so utterly wrong... again.

I wish there was a live video feed of Chuck Schumer tonight. His entire skull must be blown all over his ceiling.

 

The polling people learned nothing from 2016. Entire polling industries will be forever shuttered. Nate Silver will now be Nate Bronze for the rest of his life. I can't believe they allowed themselves to be so utterly wrong... again.

"We fixed it" = "we're out by 10%"

 

Might as well toss a coin... similar degrees of accuracy on a binary choice.

 

On the bright side... gonna piss of the bookies haha.

Feeling like Trump loses this. He did better than I thought and the showed the polls once again can't be trusted. But see him losing Nevada, Wisconsin and Michigan.

Feeling like Trump loses this. He did better than I thought and the showed the polls once again can't be trusted. But see him losing Nevada, Wisconsin and Michigan.

I'm shocked that Nevada is this close.

 

This is absolutely the worst way for any of these idiots to serve up election results. Again, they take the simple task of counting, and turn it into a scandal. No one on the losing side will trust the outcome of this election now... nobody.

I never knew Americans were this lazy. I thought y'alls were workaholics. But this years counting speed proves otherwise. In Pakistan we declared results within 12-16 hrs of polls closing.

 

Also whoever believed in the polls post 2016 was brain dead. Pollsters are dead. They should lose their jobs.

I never knew Americans were this lazy. I thought y'alls were workaholics. But this years counting speed proves otherwise. In Pakistan we declared results within 12-16 hrs of polls closing.

 

Also whoever believed in the polls post 2016 was brain dead. Pollsters are dead. They should lose their jobs.

Could not agree more.

 

When I went to sleep, Trump was ahead with a comfortable lead in Michigan. I wake up a few hours later, and it's flipped. I investigate into what the hell happened, and it's the same old song and dance... over 138,000 Biden votes magically appear, and are added to the totals, with not a single Trump vote within the ballot dump... and then Twitter starts their bullshit over people saying something about it.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2020/11/04/the-update-in-michigan-that-looks-awfully-suspicious-n2579437

I never knew Americans were this lazy. I thought y'alls were workaholics. But this years counting speed proves otherwise. In Pakistan we declared results within 12-16 hrs of polls closing.

 

Also whoever believed in the polls post 2016 was brain dead. Pollsters are dead. They should lose their jobs.

It's the incredibly convoluted voting system coupled with the fact - which always boggles my mind - that the US has no standardized national citizen ID system.

 

- Some people have Passports, some do not.

- Some people have Driver's Licenses, some do not

- Some people have a Social Security numbers, some do not, etc, etc.

 

I mean damn, just issue a number to your citizens at birth, and that's it. People who have an ID number are citizens and can identify themselves as such, and those that do not have one, are not citizens!

 

 

I mean damn, just issue a number to your citizens at birth, and that's it. People who have an ID number are citizens and can identify themselves as such, and those that do not have one, are not citizens!

 

This happens in Pakistan. Our birth  certificate no. becomes our National ID card no. when we get 18 yrs old. Also your explanation still doesnt answer the laziness of these election staffs. They're leeching off of govt. funds and slothing around.

 

 

 

over 138,000 Biden votes magically appear, and are added to the totals, with not a single Trump vote within the ballot dump... and then Twitter starts their bullshit over people saying something about it. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2020/11/04/the-update-in-michigan-that-looks-awfully-suspicious-n2579437

 

Blame the state law for that. Mail in votes are counted AFTER election day votes so....

 

Also, you live in a lazy state; NV. They've stopped counting till Thu noon lol  

 

 

Also, you live in a lazy state; NV. They've stopped counting till Thu noon lol

This is the fault of Steve Sisolak and the insane Democrats that willy-nilly sent out mail-in ballots to everyone in the state. Never has Nevada entertained the concept of a mail-in election. They sent out a bagillion ballots to names and addresses for people that no longer live here. Plus we have early voting. Plus we have in-person voting on election day. I had to poke a button to declare I was not voting twice... when they have no way to determine if it's true. There will be litigation coming in Nevada.

Well, in their defense, it’s probably the nightmarish logistics of gathering, opening, authenticating and counting the mail-in votes, rather than laziness

 

I have a couple of thoughts on the election, but I’ll share them when the result is in

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/rumor-alert-biden-michigan-votes/

There will likely be a recount so we'll see what happens.  That being said, I'm not really surprised or shocked Trump suddenly started to lose in these states.  Just the opposite happened most of the early evening, just the other way around.

 

Early on Biden was actually leading in states like Texas and Ohio and making what seemed like a run at Florida.  I was watching CNN at the time (Mostly because i side more conservative than liberal so I like to watch how the side I side with least spins things) and they were really excited...numbers were up for Biden, he had at times large leads and was outperforming Clinton in many of these areas.  Then one of them actually put this into perspective and said well the early numbers in were mostly consisted of early votes that would benefit Biden.  They knew Republicans are more likely in person voters whose votes were just coming in and it would like boost him.  Then as the next hour or two progressed, Trump gained on the lead, and eventually overtook Biden and won the state and not even relatively close.

 

The same thing is happening in the likes of Wisconsin and these other swing states, just the opposite.  Now you got Trump up early and leading when I went to bed, but now you start having Biden catching up and overtaking when they start doing absentee ballots and early votes, etc that normally benefit Democrats.  

 

We'll see what happens, it will likely be heavily fought no matter who wins because of how close things are.  I'm not jumping on the conspiracy theories just yet.  I'm a very skeptical guy, but I don't just jump on things without much proof.  Sidenote as well, i didn't vote for either of these terrible candidates.  

I been watching the numbers all day via my phone at work.  Wisconsin/Michigan were at like 95% votes recorded like all day.  Wisconsin is now called, and i just looked at Michigan and it's showing 99% of the vote with Trump down by 38,000 votes...so is that being called soon?

 

I also looked at Nevada...they been at 67% all day, and now it's saying 75% of the vote is counted but the numbers havent changed..Trump is still down 8k votes. 

 

 

I have a couple of thoughts on the election, but I’ll share them when the result is in

As do I. On the plus side... Trump losing this election will save us from a lot of horrible violence.

 

 

Michigan and it's showing 99% of the vote with Trump down by 38,000 votes...so is that being called soon?

 

MI is 95% reporting. CNN. Not 99. Biden leading by 61k

 

Ikr. wtf is up with Nevada. But Lysistata explained that well.  

A recount is not gonna change 30,000 votes... so the recount in Wisconsin is just a routine Hail-Mary. I don't see enough outstanding votes in Michigan to counter the votes coming out of Detroit. So right now I believe Trump will lose this election 270-268. There has been wild speculation that SCOTUS will intercede and give Trump reelection. This won't happen... none of those 9 Justices want to choose who the President will be.

 

This will not give Joe Biden a mandate... what it will do is give him a new residence for a while.

 

Now, I have made no secret that I wanted Amy Barrett on the SC. I would have sacrificed the President, plus 10 Senators, to get her butt in that chair... so I was well prepared for a major loss. A major loss we did not receive. Republicans will keep majority control of the Senate. This means that every single thing that Kamala Harris wants to do, will not happen.

 

There will be no Green New Deal. No Medicare for all. No free college. No repeal of the Trump tax cuts. No $15 dollar Federal minimum wage. No taxpayer funded abortions. No activist Judges. No Court Packing... and no anything she wants.

 

I say Kamala Harris because Progressives don't care about Joe Biden... they care about the office. They never wanted Joe Biden. Anyone paying attention knows quite well that there is a corruption scandal hanging all over Joe Biden involving him, and his family. The Progressives will throw Joe to the Jackals as soon as it's convenient. Joe won't go through an Impeachment... he will quietly resign, and Kamala will become President. She will never be able to do any damage whatsoever as long as Mitch McConnell is playing Goalie.

 

I like where we're at right now.

 

 

I say Kamala Harris because Progressives don't care about Joe Biden... they care about the office. They never wanted Joe Biden. Anyone paying attention knows quite well that there is a corruption scandal hanging all over Joe Biden involving him, and his family. The Progressives will throw Joe to the Jackals as soon as it's convenient. Joe won't go through an Impeachment... he will quietly resign, and Kamala will become President. She will never be able to do any damage whatsoever as long as Mitch McConnell is playing Goalie.   I like where we're at right now.

 

Sounds like a script for House of Cards season. This won't happen. Joe will complete 4 years unless he kicks the bucket.

 

Why do you believe the SC won't intervene. Its 6-3 GOP. Won't they reward Trumps faith in them. quid pro quo? 

If Biden doesn't get PA but still wins via AZ & NV then 2024 would wilder..... 

Why do you believe the SC won't intervene. Its 6-3 GOP. Won't they reward Trumps faith in them. quid pro quo?

They will only take up a case if it involves a Constitutional ruling that needs their help. They have a lifetime tenure... so they are well above owing anyone any favors. Too many idiots continue to claim the SCOTUS did GW Bush a favor back in 2000... they were firmly following the Constitution with their ruling. Elections are largely managed by the States... they really like to keep it that way, and not get involved in the politics.

A tad disappointed it looks like Biden will win. I enjoyed Trump giving it to some of the stagnant or corrupt establishments. Just a tad though, because Trump and his cronies seem and surely are corrupt in their own ways, not to mention Trump could be erratic, egotistical, saying dumb things in all that. So, meh, whatever. xD