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[KH-27] Dethy I Mafia - MAFIA Wins

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Well I am not sure what to make of that move from zacch voting for himself. Zacch and NE are both on my sus list but I am not sure a scum will put himself so close to lynching. I will go with NE and let cod decide.

 

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LOL, Zach played you guys, 

he has literally changed his vote 3 times, but no, that's not suspicious at all. 

I have voted once and asked questions. nothing more. 

 

good night and good luck, 

Edited by Northern Empire

I will post my general feelings

 

(i) Zacch posted last after knowing everyones results. If he is scum he would claim an investigation result that would try to shift the suspicion to someone else (as he already knows he has 2 guilty results on him). As I already had a guilty result on me from VGM, it would not be a surprising move from him to claim the opposite result on me (if he's scum). 

 

(ii) I agree with VGM that NE's posts and actions have been a bit scummy. He comes off as a nooby to mafia games so that may be it or it can easily be that he is a nooby scum and who jumped on a second guilty vote on Zacch (who was inactive at that point) in trying to get a lynch.

 

(iii) finally I wont count out VGM and COD to be non-scum just based on how early they voted. Both of them are experienced players and probably expert at manipulating townies.

 

In any case, I know I am town so based on my N0 result I can say I am either Sane/Naive/Insane. If I am insane then COD is scum, if I am not insane COD is clear and one of Zacch/NE/VGM is scum. I feel one more nights results will make things a lot clearer.

If you were Naive I would still not be clear.

 

Just wanted to see NE's reaction, now I know for certain Imran is scum.

 

Unvote

 

Vote Imran

huh?

 

Also we hit 3 votes, does it go through then or not?

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The day ended when Northern Empire got 3 votes.
Zacch's change of votes after that does not count.

Vote Count:


Northern Empire (3): vgmmaster, Imran Ehsan, Zacch
Zacch (1): Northern Empire,
Imran Ehsan (0):
Chaplain of Death (0):
vgmmaster (0):

Not voting: Chaplain of Death,

 
With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Northern Empire, a Town Cop, has been lynched.

It is now Night 1. Please PM all actions to me in your role thread.
The night will end when I have received all actions.

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The town assembled at daybreak after Night 1 ended.
Everyone says they are cops but someone is lying.
 
Vgmmaster, Town Cop, was killed in the night.

It is now Day 2.

Vote Count:


Zacch (0):
Imran Ehsan (0):
Chaplain of Death (0):

Not voting: Zacch, Imran Ehsan, Chaplain of Death

 

 

Just wanted to see NE's reaction, now I know for certain Imran is scum.

 

Kevin clarified that No lynch is not an option in this game. So it was not like time was runnng out and you had to rush a vote on NE to lynch him before COD had a chance to weigh in. 


Last night I investigated Zacch and I received the result Town.

 

N0, I investigated COD -> received Town

N1 I investigated Zacch -> received Town

 

It is not possible that both of them are town, one of them is the scum. So I am not the Sane cop. Also I am not the insane cop or I would have received mafia result when I investigated the scum. Therefore I am the naive Cop.

By the way, please remember this is the final day. I would ask that you do not post a Vote on someone until everyone had a chance to post. Because if you are wrong with your vote, the scum will hammer and win the game.

I investigated VGM on N1 and got the result "VGM is town".

 

N0 - Imran - Town

N1 - VGM - Town

 

I'm pretty confident that I'm Niave Cop, Chap is Insane Cop and Imran is Scum.

 

Vote: Imran


Unvote (to prevent hammer).

 

Just wanted to see NE's reaction, now I know for certain Imran is scum.

 

Unvote

 

Vote Imran

Can you explain this post to me Zacch? You said you knew for certain Imran was scum based on Northern Empires reaction?

 

 

I was on the fence about NE and thought he could very well be scum with the way he was playing. I wasn't sure if he was just new player or trying to act like one. But his reaction to being hammered sold me on his authenticity. 

 

I thought it was a convenient vote by Imran, knowing that he wouldn't be seen as the first vote or the hammer. Its also interesting the VGM was killed on N1, I feel like a N1 result for VGM would have confirmed everyone's sanity. Something about Imran seems off, day 1 he avoided talking about VGM's result until NE directly questioned him on it. 

 

Scenario 1: Chap (Insane), NE (Paranoid), VGM (Sane), Zacch (Niave) ...... Imran (Scum).

Scenario 2: Imran (Niave), NE (Paranoid), VGM (Insane), Zacch (Sane) ...... Chap (Scum). 

 

Either Imran is scum or Chap is trying to frame him as scum. 

 

My intuition is saying Imran is scum.

Night 0
Chaplain targeted Zacch - mafia

vgm targeted Imran - mafia
Imran targeted Chaplain - town
Northern Empire targeted Zacch - mafia
Zacch targeted Imran - town

Night 1
Imran targeted Zacch - town
Chaplain targeted Imran - town
Zacch targeted vgm - town

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There's also Scenario 3: Chaplain (sane), NE (Paranoid), vgm (Insane), Imran (Naive) ........ Zacch (Scum)

You were also last to point your results both times, which allows you to analyze the results from others and before posting. You also threw 2 votes out early based on very little and then came out with a full analysis 23 hours later after nobody jumped on to vote with you.
Then you unvote after the hammer with the explanation that NE's response made you think he was town, but his post was calling you out for throwing your vote everywhere.
Finally you threw an early vote out today even thought we're LYLO, you retracted it fairly quickly but the fact that you would throw that vote out at all, especially after Imran even made note of it, is odd. 

Its a bit odd to me as well that you chose to hammer the target that I specifically mentioned would give us less information. If you had been sincere about allowing yourself to be lynched so that town could maximize information gained from the lynch, I don't see a single reason why you would hammer NE instead.

 

 

I thought it was a convenient vote by Imran, knowing that he wouldn't be seen as the first vote or the hammer. Its also interesting the VGM was killed on N1, I feel like a N1 result for VGM would have confirmed everyone's sanity. Something about Imran seems off, day 1 he avoided talking about VGM's result until NE directly questioned him on it. 

 

The only reason I didnt for you was because you pulled the stunt of voting for yourself. There is only 1 scum in the game and if scum gets lynched, the game is over. So it was either a case of scum Zacch giving up on winning the game or Town Zacch actually sacrificing himself for the townies benefit. Thats why I switched my vote to NE who was 2nd on my list. However it was clear later that it was not town Zacch sacrifing himself, as you almost immediately after my vote unvoted yourself and hammered NE. As COD also pointed out, there was also discussion about  who the best option for D1 lynch will be (someone who had multiple investigation results on him). So the best lynch would have been either you or me.  VGM did not seem inclined to vote for me and you didnt give a chance to COD to give his input before you hammered. So I am not sure where you are going with saying my vote was a convenient one, while yours were OK.

 

About me avoiding VGMs result, there is a paranoid and an insane cop in the game. I knew VGM is probably insane as you had 2 scum result votes on you, which would mean the paranoid cop investigated you, not me, provided the scum wasnt fake claiming. At that point NE's claim of a guilty resulty on you also seemed like a scum claim to me.

 

All 3 scenarios posted above are possible, based on the results but I think COD hit it right on the head:

There's also Scenario 3: Chaplain (sane), NE (Paranoid), vgm (Insane), Imran (Naive) ........ Zacch (Scum)

 

You seem to be copying my results and is now also claiming to be the Naive cop. I dont think COD is the scum. Any last words?

 

I thought it was a convenient vote by Imran, knowing that he wouldn't be seen as the first vote or the hammer. Its also interesting the VGM was killed on N1, I feel like a N1 result for VGM would have confirmed everyone's sanity. Something about Imran seems off, day 1 he avoided talking about VGM's result until NE directly questioned him on it. 

 

The only reason I didnt for you was because you pulled the stunt of voting for yourself. There is only 1 scum in the game and if scum gets lynched, the game is over. So it was either a case of scum Zacch giving up on winning the game or Town Zacch actually sacrificing himself for the townies benefit. Thats why I switched my vote to NE who was 2nd on my list. However it was clear later that it was not town Zacch sacrifing himself, as you almost immediately after my vote unvoted yourself and hammered NE. As COD also pointed out, there was also discussion about  who the best option for D1 lynch will be (someone who had multiple investigation results on him). So the best lynch would have been either you or me.  VGM did not seem inclined to vote for me and you didnt give a chance to COD to give his input before you hammered. So I am not sure where you are going with saying my vote was a convenient one, while yours were OK.

 

About me avoiding VGMs result, there is a paranoid and an insane cop in the game. I knew VGM is probably insane as you had 2 scum result votes on you, which would mean the paranoid cop investigated you, not me, provided the scum wasnt fake claiming. At that point NE's claim of a guilty resulty on you also seemed like a scum claim to me.

 

All 3 scenarios posted above are possible, based on the results but I think COD hit it right on the head:

There's also Scenario 3: Chaplain (sane), NE (Paranoid), vgm (Insane), Imran (Naive) ........ Zacch (Scum)

 

You seem to be copying my results and is now also claiming to be the Naive cop. I dont think COD is the scum. Any last words?

 

 

GG I guess scum is going to win this one.

To be honest, I think Chap is the real scum.

 

I'l go back to my D1 arguement, very unlikely that both the insane cop and paranoid cop would both investigate me on N0.

 

Unvote

 

Vote: Chap.

I'm going to be real sad if you don't flip scum Zacch, but your behavior has been so all over the place.

 

 

I guess you are not gonna try to explain the hammer on NE?

Vote Zacch

 

I already did explained why I voted for NE.

 

Why did you vote for NE?


Vote: Imran

 

You thought Imrans vote on NE was awfully convenient so you hammered him? 

Vote: Zacch

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