Fight or Flight is a 7 player Open Setup with each player being given a 1-Shot Commute and a 1-Shot Vig kill - there is no factional nightkill for scum and no other roles.
 

Setup

• 2 Mafia Goons
• 5 Townies

Mechanics

• This setup uses a Daystart
• Each player, town and mafia alike, has a 1-Shot Commute and 1-Shot Vigilante kill.
• There is no factional mafia kill.
• A player can choose to do no action at night if they wish.
• Mafia win endgame situations where they control 50% of the town AND the town has no vig-shots left.

Additional Rules

• Game days will last 1 week.
• If a player gets a majority of votes, he (or she) is immediately lynched and the day ends.
• At deadline, the player with the most votes will be lynched. Ties will be broken randomly.
• No-lynch is only an option on the first game day.

Players

• Chaplain of death
• Imran Ehsan
• iSocialism
• LordSunday
• Northern Empire
• vgmmaster
• Zacch

Pretty sure scum can communicate with each other. They will be coordinating their actions.

 

Vote No lynch

Pretty sure scum can communicate with each other. They will be coordinating their actions.

 

Vote No lynch

 

Yes, we have to assume that scum will have night talk. But its not outside the realm of possibility that they don't. This setup treats everyone as equals, each person, town or scum, has a one-shot commute and a one-shot vig.

 

 

This game is designed to be short, and played mostly during first night.

 

For once,

 

Vote No-Lynch

 

 

I could see it being over in one (1) night as well, especially if Townies are using their vigs. But I think it will go longer than expected with most people standing pat on night 1.

 

 

at this point it's just guess and by god who is who. so i would agree, no first day lynch, 

 

 

Thats typically how mafia goes on day 1, unless scum makes an obvious slip up, which we have seen happen (ferastical: "our" night kill: for example), but most of the time day 1 is a debate between no lynch and lynch the most inactive person.

 

Vote Count:

Chaplain of death (0):

Imran Ehsan (0):

iSocialism (0):

LordSunday (0):

Northern Empire (0):

vgmmaster (0):

Zacch (0):

 

No-Lynch (2): iSocialism, Imran Ehsan,

 

Not voting: Chaplain of death, LordSunday, Northern Empire, vgmmaster, Zacch

 

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline is Tuesday, September 26 at noon EDT.

If no player reaches 4 votes by deadline, it will be a no-lynch.

Vote - 

No Lynch

 

Vote Count:

Chaplain of death (0):

Imran Ehsan (0):

iSocialism (0):

LordSunday (0):

Northern Empire (0):

vgmmaster (0):

Zacch (0):

 

No-Lynch (3): iSocialism, Imran Ehsan, Northern Empire,

 

Not voting: Chaplain of death, LordSunday, vgmmaster, Zacch

 

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline is Tuesday, September 26 at noon EDT.

If no player reaches 4 votes by deadline, it will be a no-lynch.

 

Looks like its going to be no lynch today.

 

Vote: No Lynch

Vote: No Lynch

Looks like it's a no lynch for day one. Outside of a fluff post early, would like to note that isocialism's only other post is a vote with no other information, so definitely suspicious of them for day 2.

 

Vote Count:

Chaplain of death (0):

Imran Ehsan (0):

iSocialism (0):

LordSunday (0):

Northern Empire (0):

vgmmaster (0):

Zacch (0):

 

No-Lynch (4): iSocialism, Imran Ehsan, Northern Empire, Zacch

 

Not voting: LordSunday, vgmmaster, Chaplain of death

 

Day 1 ends with a No-Lynch (before Chaplain's vote)

It is now Night 1.

Please send all actions by Wednesday, September 27 at 11:00 EDT.

 

 

Night 1 ends.

iSocialism, Townie, has been killed in the night.

It is now Day 2.

Vote Count:

Chaplain of death (0):
Imran Ehsan (0):
LordSunday (0):
Northern Empire (0):
vgmmaster (0):
Zacch (0):

No-Lynch (0):

Not voting: LordSunday, vgmmaster, Chaplain of death, Imran Ehsan, Northern Empire, Zacch

 
With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline is Wednesday, October 4, at 11:00 EDT.

If there is no lynch by deadline, the player with the most votes at that time will be lynched.
In the event of a tie, one player will be chosen randomly from those tied to be lynched.

Just a guess, but my thinking is a townie shot isocialism. Then the question is if the Mafia would still have both their bullets or if one was wasted on somebody who commuted.

Just a guess, but my thinking is a townie shot isocialism. Then the question is if the Mafia would still have both their bullets or if one was wasted on somebody who commuted.

so if it was a Townie then the Mafia has two shots and if it was a mafia they have one left- 

seems to me it would be a free kill for a mafia - and still to early to be able to identify one from the other,  

Just a guess, but my thinking is a townie shot isocialism. Then the question is if the Mafia would still have both their bullets or if one was wasted on somebody who commuted.

 

What makes you think Isoc was killed by a townie?

 

Just a guess, but my thinking is a townie shot isocialism. Then the question is if the Mafia would still have both their bullets or if one was wasted on somebody who commuted.

 

What makes you think Isoc was killed by a townie?

 

Math

 

 

Just a guess, but my thinking is a townie shot isocialism. Then the question is if the Mafia would still have both their bullets or if one was wasted on somebody who commuted.

 

What makes you think Isoc was killed by a townie?

 

Math

 

 

I don't see it, just because there are more town than scum doesn't mean Isoc was killed by town.

 

Isoc is a strong player, I think this was a good decision by scum to take him out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just a guess, but my thinking is a townie shot isocialism. Then the question is if the Mafia would still have both their bullets or if one was wasted on somebody who commuted.

What makes you think Isoc was killed by a townie?

Math

I don't see it, just because there are more town than scum doesn't mean Isoc was killed by town.

 

Isoc is a strong player, I think this was a good decision by scum to take him out.

To be honest, I don't necessarily know/recall playstyles or how strong a particular player is so I'll take your word for that.

 

That said, while math is on the side as Chaplain said, my thinking is this. While it's difficult to pin inactivity on day 1 as super scummy perhaps since there not much to go on, when you say practically nothing, it's still going to raise an eyebrow specifically. I would've definitely been looking extra hard in their direction if they were still alive and it's possible someone else may have been as well.

 

The other thing, if mafia sees the town calling out someone that isn't there own, wouldn't they perhaps use that to their advantage and let us pick each other off in order to lay low?

 

So you're right, there's no guarantee. Just, if I had to put money on it, I'm suspecting it's a town vig in this instance.

 

 

 

 

Just a guess, but my thinking is a townie shot isocialism. Then the question is if the Mafia would still have both their bullets or if one was wasted on somebody who commuted.

What makes you think Isoc was killed by a townie?

Math

How so?

 

 

 

Just a guess, but my thinking is a townie shot isocialism. Then the question is if the Mafia would still have both their bullets or if one was wasted on somebody who commuted.

 

What makes you think Isoc was killed by a townie?

 

Math

 

 

I don't see it, just because there are more town than scum doesn't mean Isoc was killed by town.

 

Isoc is a strong player, I think this was a good decision by scum to take him out.

 

Isoc being a strong player also makes him a threat if he were scum, and seasoned players may target other experienced players for that reason.

 

 

 

 

 

Just a guess, but my thinking is a townie shot isocialism. Then the question is if the Mafia would still have both their bullets or if one was wasted on somebody who commuted.

What makes you think Isoc was killed by a townie?

Math

How so?

 

 

vgm literally said "Just a guess". The guess is based in part on the math of there being more townies than scum (or that's my guess about her guess (Guessception!)). 

 

Do you guys want me to have undeniable evidence for why vgm has made this guess when we have no evidence to run off of and no voting record?

 

 

 

 

Just a guess, but my thinking is a townie shot isocialism. Then the question is if the Mafia would still have both their bullets or if one was wasted on somebody who commuted.

 

What makes you think Isoc was killed by a townie?

 

Math

 

 

I don't see it, just because there are more town than scum doesn't mean Isoc was killed by town.

 

Isoc is a strong player, I think this was a good decision by scum to take him out.

 

Isoc being a strong player also makes him a threat if he were scum, and seasoned players may target other experienced players for that reason.

 

 

 

 

 

Just a guess, but my thinking is a townie shot isocialism. Then the question is if the Mafia would still have both their bullets or if one was wasted on somebody who commuted.

What makes you think Isoc was killed by a townie?

Math

How so?

 

vgm literally said "Just a guess". The guess is based in part on the math of there being more townies than scum (or that's my guess about her guess (Guessception!)). 

 

Do you guys want me to have undeniable evidence for why vgm has made this guess when we have no evidence to run off of and no voting record?

 

 

I just don't see the logic behind a townie killing Isoc last night. There was nothing to go on, we have a very narrow window to figure out who is scum, shooting ourselves in the foot by taking a blind stab in the dark on night one is just reckless and borderline negligent.

 

That being said, I find it suspicious that someone would come right out the gate on day 2 and say "oh that could've been town that killed him" almost suggesting that we shouldn't really pay much attention to his killing. It gives me "congratulating the doctor" vibes to a degree. 

 

FoS: VGM  

 

 

That being said, I find it suspicious that someone would come right out the gate on day 2 and say "oh that could've been town that killed him" almost suggesting that we shouldn't really pay much attention to his killing. It gives me "congratulating the doctor" vibes to a degree. 

 

That's an interesting take- That had not occurred to me,  

attention diverting? 

I still don't see to what end? 

Vote Count:

Chaplain of death (0):
Imran Ehsan (0):
LordSunday (0):
Northern Empire (0):
vgmmaster (0):
Zacch (0):

No-Lynch (0):

Not voting: LordSunday, vgmmaster, Chaplain of death, Imran Ehsan, Northern Empire, Zacch

 
With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline is Wednesday, October 4, at 11:00 EDT.

If there is no lynch by deadline, the player with the most votes at that time will be lynched.
In the event of a tie, one player will be chosen randomly from those tied to be lynched.
 

I just find it interesting that right before D1 ended, VGM posted the iSoc is suspicious and then he gets killed at night. It kinda looks like VGM trying to set up a reason for iSoc getting killed at night and then ohh that seems like a townie shooting a suspicious townie. 

Unless of course VGM is claiming that she shot iSoc at night. is that so VGM?

I just find it interesting that right before D1 ended, VGM posted the iSoc is suspicious and then he gets killed at night. It kinda looks like VGM trying to set up a reason for iSoc getting killed at night and then ohh that seems like a townie shooting a suspicious townie. 

Unless of course VGM is claiming that she shot iSoc at night. is that so VGM?

 

I am not claiming to have shot iSoc. While the temptation may have been there, I figured it would be best to pressure him on day 2 (which unfortunately didn't happen with his death). I only would have liked to have seen more reasoning either when he made his vote, or even prior would have been fine. 

 

One could argue LordSunday could be in that camp as well with lack of activity. Which, he did slip my mind at that time, but looking back through day 1, he's only posted fluff as well with nothing meaningful. Which, to be fair, he was gone for a few days with his wedding. Just worth pointing out his posting prior to his departure. 

 

 

 

 

Just a guess, but my thinking is a townie shot isocialism. Then the question is if the Mafia would still have both their bullets or if one was wasted on somebody who commuted.

 

What makes you think Isoc was killed by a townie?

 

Math

 

 

I don't see it, just because there are more town than scum doesn't mean Isoc was killed by town.

 

Isoc is a strong player, I think this was a good decision by scum to take him out.

 

Isoc being a strong player also makes him a threat if he were scum, and seasoned players may target other experienced players for that reason.

 

 

 

 

 

Just a guess, but my thinking is a townie shot isocialism. Then the question is if the Mafia would still have both their bullets or if one was wasted on somebody who commuted.

What makes you think Isoc was killed by a townie?

Math

How so?

 

vgm literally said "Just a guess". The guess is based in part on the math of there being more townies than scum (or that's my guess about her guess (Guessception!)). 

 

Do you guys want me to have undeniable evidence for why vgm has made this guess when we have no evidence to run off of and no voting record?

 

 

When you say "Math!" that implies there is very good logic and probability of iSoc being shot by townies. Fact is most townies would not not shoot on N1 with almost 0 clues they had on D1. iSoc was also least likely to be shot based on his posts on D1 by townies. LS was more likely to be shot by a townie, due to him not posting. Only VGM raised issue about iSoc being suspicious.

 

I just find it interesting that right before D1 ended, VGM posted the iSoc is suspicious and then he gets killed at night. It kinda looks like VGM trying to set up a reason for iSoc getting killed at night and then ohh that seems like a townie shooting a suspicious townie. 

Unless of course VGM is claiming that she shot iSoc at night. is that so VGM?

 

I am not claiming to have shot iSoc. While the temptation may have been there, I figured it would be best to pressure him on day 2 (which unfortunately didn't happen with his death). I only would have liked to have seen more reasoning either when he made his vote, or even prior would have been fine. 

 

One could argue LordSunday could be in that camp as well with lack of activity. Which, he did slip my mind at that time, but looking back through day 1, he's only posted fluff as well with nothing meaningful. Which, to be fair, he was gone for a few days with his wedding. Just worth pointing out his posting prior to his departure. 

 

 

The fact that you want someone to have great reasoning with his posts on D1 with 0 info is supicious by itself.

 

 

Isoc being a strong player also makes him a threat if he were scum, and seasoned players may target other experienced players for that reason.

 

wait what? I missed this part. You think townies may shoot other strong players on N1 because they may become strong scum, over possibly having a strong player with the townies hunting scum? I cant get my head around this logic. 

 

 

I just find it interesting that right before D1 ended, VGM posted the iSoc is suspicious and then he gets killed at night. It kinda looks like VGM trying to set up a reason for iSoc getting killed at night and then ohh that seems like a townie shooting a suspicious townie. 

Unless of course VGM is claiming that she shot iSoc at night. is that so VGM?

 

I am not claiming to have shot iSoc. While the temptation may have been there, I figured it would be best to pressure him on day 2 (which unfortunately didn't happen with his death). I only would have liked to have seen more reasoning either when he made his vote, or even prior would have been fine. 

 

One could argue LordSunday could be in that camp as well with lack of activity. Which, he did slip my mind at that time, but looking back through day 1, he's only posted fluff as well with nothing meaningful. Which, to be fair, he was gone for a few days with his wedding. Just worth pointing out his posting prior to his departure. 

 

 

The fact that you want someone to have great reasoning with his posts on D1 with 0 info is supicious by itself.

 

I'm obviously not expecting great reasoning, but is it too much to ask for people to possibly have thoughts about the setup and how they expect things to go?