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50 Dead, 400+ Injured in Las Vegas mass shooting.
Damn it Betsy, get it right. The pizza joint is where the fat cat pedophiles are at. They'll find his body in some back alleyway, along with some random drugs that will be "found in his system".... Please tell me that everyone can hear the sarcasm I'm using. On a side note, I could believe this, especially since it's the news interviews that he's bailing on, and he supposedly had a meeting with MGM higher ups prior to disappearing. Give it about another week, and we'll find out what's going on with him.
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50 Dead, 400+ Injured in Las Vegas mass shooting.
I had three more, that I deleted after reading your statement the second time. Thought I had gotten that one as well. By the way, I notice your second graph you linked didn't include Mexico or Russia. Another wonderful way to skew results (just remove the ones that don't conform to what the presenter is trying to show). \ I'll say maybe to this one. In my opinion, it takes more than just police. Police can't be everywhere. Add to that, in the US at least, the government in general, and the police in particular, are under no responsibility to protect us as individuals (1), (2), (3) Just a heads up, number 3 is a disturbing case. So, based on that, I'm responsible for the safety and security of myself and my family. Because of that, I want the most effective means available to me, and that is currently a gun. I actually don't want everyone to have guns. It takes a certain mindset to carry a gun for self protection, and some people just don't have it. There are some (like my wife) that can't hurt a fly. Then there's the flip side, where someone can get set off by the smallest thing. Give you an example, which just so happened to be the first day I ever carried concealed after getting my license. Was driving my car with my son in the passenger seat. Traffic is pretty heavy, and I'm in the inner most lane, pretty well boxed in. Look in my rear view mirror, and this guy is just flipping his shit. Totally upset about something, giving me the middle finger, then waving his hands, trying to tell me to get over and out of his way. Watched him change lanes to the right (so he's now in the middle lane of a road with 3 lanes each direction), speed up next to me (so he's essentially next to my son), and continue to give me the middle finger. That is someone that I don't think should be carrying a gun, because of what appeared to be an anger issue (maybe it was a bad day for him, don't know don't care). You also state that gun related deaths will increase. Maybe. In my mind, definitely if 100% of the population is carrying, because the criminal will weight the chances of getting shot, and choose to shoot first. I want to say that I read somewhere that about 10% of the population is enough. That's just enough to make the criminal not want to shoot right away, but enough that the criminal is likely to encounter someone that is armed. Not all incidents where a gun is drawn end up in a death or injury. End of my work day, so I can't search it, but I hear many times where a armed defender gets the drop on a criminal, and the criminal gives up. I think I linked to a couple of stories up above where that happened (home invasions) The one statistic related to guns that scares me is the suicide one. Unless there's a history of suicide attempts, background checks, etc won't stop suicide attempts. Going back to statistics, though, this is usually included in the number of "gun deaths" (have I said how I hate that phrase, the gun doesn't cause the death, it's just a tool). Per the CDC in 2013, "between the years 2000-2010, firearm-related suicides significantly outnumbered homicides for all age groups, annually accounting for 61 percent of the more than 335,600 people who died from firearms related violence in the United States." The reason it scares me is, the methods to stop criminal use of guns won't work to prevent suicides, but because of the way the "gun banners" (I don't have a better term for them, especially with Feinstein on record as saying she hopes the bump stock legislation is the start of a slippery slope) present the statistics, it's always that "gun violence" is a problem, and implementing this law (in addition to the 10,000 already on the books) will stop it.
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50 Dead, 400+ Injured in Las Vegas mass shooting.
Every Town for Gun Safety has on their website the tag line "The Movement to End Gun Violence". It's in the name "The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence". Slate article: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2016/07/everytown_for_gun_safety_michael_bloomberg_s_anti_gun_group_is_taking_on.html Now, granted the last one is more specific to talking about how the groups don't want to be termed gun control groups, but they do talk about preventing gun violence. To me, if you're preventing something from happening, you're stopping all instances. OK, I'm going to admit to being stupid right now. I actually went out, searched for graphs that showed what I was looking at, then saw you said you do notice, not do not notice (how I originally read it). Are you agreeing with me, and I'm too dense to figure it out right now? Damn it, I need more caffeine before trying to argue with Betsy. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DJ-KA2WhhLo/UNZr8agpVqI/AAAAAAAAFH4/f6rrTVN7q6I/s1600/Screen+Shot+2012-12-22+at++Saturday,+December+22,+9.26+PM.png
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50 Dead, 400+ Injured in Las Vegas mass shooting.
How about a spring loaded shoulder pad? Try banning something that isn't even attached to the rifle. Exactly the point I was attempting to make. The other thing that I usually say to people after something like this happens, we need to focus on the person, and why they did it, rather than on the tool they used. Got into this with my wife last night, she was trying to get me to agree that banning AR style rifles was necessary. I told her that if someone is sufficiently motivated, there are other ways to create just as many deaths, if not more. The two I reminded her of were Nice, France (80+ dead, 450+ wounded), and the Oklahoma City bombing (168 dead, 680 injured). The same tool that was used to murder multiple people in Las Vegas, has also been used by people to defend their homes (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oklahoma-man-uses-ar-15-kill-three-teen-home-intruders-n739541) I'm an engineer, so I typically look at pros vs cons using statistics, but I try to get a complete picture, because I know how easy it is to lie using statistics. The one I usually hear is how the number of deaths caused by people with guns go down after guns get confiscated. OK, maybe (I don't buy it, because criminals that commit the crimes won't turn their guns in, but have never researched it to see the numbers behind the stats), but what happens to violent crime in general, and murder in general? Not just those acts committed by people using guns. What I usually hear is that those numbers go up. Let me twist one a little, and see if I can make my point a little better. Cities that have more hospitals have more deaths occur in hospitals, so we should ban hospitals, right? Obviously, the answer is no. Just trying to point out that statistics can be used to lie and deceive, based on someone's agenda.
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50 Dead, 400+ Injured in Las Vegas mass shooting.
Edit to add this response (had quoted it, and missed that I hadn't typed anything). The ATF in 2010 (under Obama) doesn't agree with your determination. It is currently a legal modification to a semi-auto rifle, because it doesn't change the fact that the rifle shoots one bullet for every pull of the trigger. Just allows you to pull the trigger much faster than normal. Even if Congress creates legislation to make bump stocks illegal, there are other methods to do the same thing, one that involves shoe string. You are completely missing the crackpot "it was a false flag attack", "it was the US military testing a new weapons platform, drones with small arms" BS. Consider yourself lucky. This guy was a high roller. My understanding is, if the casino knew who he was, and how much he gambled, they were extremely nice and helpful to him. Heavy bags? Who cares, help the man to his room. Large number of heavy bags? Even better, he's probably staying for a while. Don't want to piss off a well paying customer.
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50 Dead, 400+ Injured in Las Vegas mass shooting.
Private event. 2nd amendment applies to the Government, people and companies have the rights to state what can or cannot be brought in (similar to 1st amendment, Government can't tell you to stop something, but your work sure can tell you no politics in the office). You mean, most day to day interactions? Where nobody does anything violent, and everybody just goes along? Unfortunately, shit like this happens... http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/to-have-it-and-need-it/article_b9f0b293-a135-527d-a554-93a77bb9745d.html Or, these home invasions, stopped by a "good guy with a gun": http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/redford-twp-homeowner-shoots-intruder-in-hand http://www.wfaa.com/news/carrollton-resident-shoots-early-morning-home-intruder/480792528 http://www.timesnews.net/Law-Enforcement/2017/10/03/Don-t-Shoot-Hawkins-burglary-suspect-held-at-gunpoint-by-homeowner.html?ci=stream&lp=1&p=1 Not any more. DC vs Heller decision struck that ban down.
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50 Dead, 400+ Injured in Las Vegas mass shooting.
I'd actually change that to there is no ban or law out there that can prevent pure evil. There are truly evil people out there, and the best you can do is be prepared to defend yourself in case the worst happens. I gonna claim ignorance here. Have heard people say that, but usually it's people that have no idea about guns (like Kevin De Leon and his "ghost gun" that can fire faster than a squad automatic weapon when you do the math on his numbers) For anyone that is curious about bump stocks, the ATF determined them to be legal in 2010. This is the best description I've heard of why the ruled the way they did.
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50 Dead, 400+ Injured in Las Vegas mass shooting.
The bump stock is a very specific device. It replaces the standard stock on a semiauto rifle, and makes rapid firing much easier. The problem is, this is a device to do that. I'm seeing people online that are basically saying "yeah, we can do that without a bump stock, here's how". Doesn't take a bump stock to do it. Also, not just better chance of jamming, but really really lowers accuracy. Worked well for the murderer in this instance, with essentially a pray and spray attack into a crowded area. Exactly. I read someone was able to do this using the belt loops on their pants or a shoestring (didn't see a video of it, so it's questionable to me). Feinstein and Sanders have already introduced a bill to ban the bump stock by name, but with the vague way it's written, could also make illegal replacement triggers that have a lower pull weights that are used in competition.
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50 Dead, 400+ Injured in Las Vegas mass shooting.
It may be, but the FBI is investigating, so it falls back to federal law for them to classify it. Federal law requires a political motivation to be classified as terrorism. Since we still haven't heard the motive, they're not going to classify it as terrorism (although, knowing motive in the past was political still didn't cause them to classify the act as terrorism, so not holding my breath either way).
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50 Dead, 400+ Injured in Las Vegas mass shooting.
From what I've read online, he had a camera covering the exterior of the door to the room he had rented. When he saw SWAT coming, he took his own life. Haven't seen an "official" police report or conference that confirmed that, just remember seeing that on a couple of news sites. As for the girlfriend, I thought I heard she returned willingly from the Philippines and is being questioned by the FBI. Doesn't sound like waterboarding will be necessary.