Falzis

No. Because for one, I don't know who the summoner is. I was sure AoD wasn't pro-town given a conflicting roleclaim by mole while Kaziocore roleclaimed. Why shouldn't I push for their lynches? They weren't pro-town and it would weaken the summoner. Plus, it would lead me to the summoner eventually by seeing the voting patterns, which I am seeing now.

My voting record speaks for itself. What if I told you that my win condition was the elimination of the summoner? Conversely analyzing it, I came up with that assumption as the summoner is my counterpart. If I'm right, that's why you're pushing so hard for my neck (if you're the summoner).

That was because I was sure by then that (old) AoD was a scum also and that EM already got majority lynch votes. Had I switched people would still say I was bandwagoning and "blending" in. If that is your criteria, then mole or the new AoD should be lynched as well since he didn't switch votes to EM after SJ outed EM. That's why I think junk is more likely scum than you based on the sequence of voting there, but since SJ thinks you're scum and I was choosing between you and junk anyway, then I voted for you. Again, if you turn up town, I'll vote for junk asap. I've always suggested in this thread way before D4 that the summoner might have a counterpart. Plus, I'm guessing that the summoner's win condition might have something to do with my death since this game is so lopsided against him (no NK ability after EM dies and doesn't know who the self-aligneds are, a different faction from him).

i'm in. can't wait to see EM die again in at most 3 mafia days.

wow that was a fast one all while I sleeping. since my eyes are between CD and junk, and SJ thinks it's CD... Vote: CanucksDynasty if he turns up town, i'm quite sure it's junk then.

Care to substantiate why not? And you might have a bias in objectively assessing my role claim given your previous situation.

I think we can assume that the summoner wouldn't want to kill those self-aligned he controls in day lynches. We can also assume that the summoner doesn't know who the person he controls are due to the self-alignment. We can now I believe safely assume that the summoner has lost NK powers due to EM's death. We know that the summoner wields three powers from the dead self-aligneds. We know that the summoner used EM to kill Martino on N1. Thereafter, the summoner couldn't kill anyone anymore having lost EM therefore we can assume that he would either use AoD as Golem or Kaziocore as Shade. Given that KevinH as the Vigilante was dead, we can assume that the summoner has no need to use Golem for protection. Therefore, the summoner was collecting information through Kaziocore on N2 and forth. This is proven by SJ's seeing of Kaziocore on N2. Now it gets harder. The summoner could have seen who was a townie, a pro-town, or a pro-scum (or self-aligned). We can assume that the summoner didn't need to investigate SJ since he roleclaimed nor AoD, although as to what AoD's alignment was the summoner couldn't have possibly been sure until mole roleclaimed. So most likely, the summoner investigated people who didn't roleclaim. So with that, I, and only I, am assuming that the summoner investigated me and saw that I was his nemesis. That's why I believe that the people who have been gunning for my head are the ones most likely to be the summoner. These include either CD or junk. Of the two, I am leaning towards junkahoolic based on voting patters and postings. CD and junk have similar voting patterns. They didn't vote anyone on D1, they voted for EM on D2 (CD was the first vote, junk was the fifth), and voted for me on D3. On D4, junk voted for crazy while CD voted for Kaziocore. The summoner could have avoided not voting for KevinH on D1 in the possibility that he might be a pro-scum role or one of the powers the summoner was controlling. The summoner could have voted for EM on D2 to blend in with the townie given that SJ was very forceful and convincing as a cop and saw that he had no choice but to vote against one of his controlled powers. On D3, the summoner could have by then already known that I was the Sage and pushed for my head. Alternatively, he was able to avoid voting for AoD who could possibly be one of his controlled powers. On D4, the summoner still wanted my head but when Kaziocore roleclaimed and Aquinas pointed to crazyemolad, he may have shifted gears to avoid suspicion. Now why do I think junk is the more likely summoner? First, CD voted for EM first, so he couldn't have bandwagoned and attempted to blend in as a townie. His posting style is aggressive and he picked up on Carl Vincent's vanilla townie role post (which I didn't and he suspected me of). Although CD could still be the summoner and blended with the town better by voting against Kaziocore, junk is still more appropriate as the summoner because of his careful stances and sometimes inconsistent posts. Junk voted fifth for EM which could be the summoner bandwagoning. Junk wasn't aggressive and instead just played along with the discussion ongoing. He jumped to CD's side when CD aroused suspicion towards me and junk. He could have done this to avoid CD's eyes and use EM's style of associating with a townie (like in the game EM did to me). More importantly was his inconsistency in not voting for AoD when he said that he "got mole's breadcrumbs" which I don't believe and is inconsistent with his not voting for AoD on D3. Lastly, he didn't want to lose Kaziocore because it was the only power left to him. There are similar suspicions to CD and junk but I think the sequence of voting for EM is decisively against junk's favor of being a zealous anti-scum townie. So with that, Vote: junkahoolic

A whining summoner? lol just putting this out there Oh but I did.

I'm not the summoner. I'm the summoner's counterpart.

Who do you think is the summoner?

Any of those who voted for me please unvote before Kaziocore nails the final hammer vote.

I don't do anything. I am the source of the powers of the good wizards. If I die, they lose their powers. I am an old wizard who sensed magical powers being used for evil. I called upon friends to fight against it. I didn't know who was who from the start, just that I empower other wizards.

If you guys don't get the breadcrumb, because the highlight/bold sucks, the first letter of each sentence that is CAPS reads I AM GOOD WIZ. SAGE.

Wow. I don't know why you support Kaziocore in the first place. He is not pro-town. He doesn't win with the town. Why did you even hide Kaziocore in the first place? You are the cop. You are pro-town. You can control yourself. He can't. I don't get it why you are siding with him. You didn't read my post did you? I FOSed all of you except for the roleclaimers and me because they are the only sure townie. I don't FOS people because they accuse me as scum, I FOS them because by logic of elimination, AoD/mole, SJ and I can't be the summoner.

Sounds insane I know. A really interesting game Narsis has set-up. Going by assumptions is not the way anymore. Everybody must be questioned. yeah even me, but except for the roleclaimed, no one is exempted. oh and i forgot to include crazyemolad in the FOS. FOS crazyemolad

FOS: CanucksDynasty junkaholic Aquinas Just because SJ is the cop, AoD/mole is the doc. And I am town.

Kaziocore is counterpart of the Seer. He is not pro-town. After him, we hunt the summoner/controller.

@ crazyemolad - anyone can post breadcrumbs so obviously like you do. TOWNIE in bold and caps you post. mole's was more subtle if I ever saw one. Unvote Vote: Kaziocore Now you've outed yourself. I am sure you are self-aligned, and that you are not pro-town. You may win alone if you survive to the end but still you give powers to the summoner. By parallelism, like EM and AoD, you are not a friend of the town.

I think SJ sees the power a person uses during the night. Like when EM killed, mole protected him, and whoever the investigative person is. That's from what I get from SJ.

Care to explain why you are 100% sure?

The same suspicions befalling SJ about whether he got that mole was the real doc or not applies also to junk, which was the case I made for voting before unvoting. I'd vote for junk first than SJ if we base it on that. But I'm going to go with Aquinas on this one since he has a good hunch on things like the last game where he chose an alternative lynch that led to EM's death (not this game). Vote: crazyemolad

Unvote I'll leave junk alone for now because I think CD and SJ would be the choices for my vote. One wants the information, one wants to keep it hidden. Both have reasons to do so. Hmm

I floated the same idea as much when I FoSed SJ way back in early D4. IF he is scum he's definitely not on the same side of EM or the controller. Two scum factions or self-aligneds?

When's the deadline?

HMMM I think AoD should be in the Mafia and Mole in the pro-town roles. But also, I don't think the Pro-town "Summoner" controls SJ or Mole. SJ has said his powers are uncontrollably random while Mole's is controllable. Lastly, I think it was junk's thesis that if self-aligneds die, they could become pro-town. I've already disapproved of this thesis but again, even if that were true, why let them live (junk's justification of unvoting AoD) and allow the controller to use their powers?