omg... Do you really wish to go there LE? So to get anything "constructive" done, it has to be Democrats that do it? Republicans are not people? Who has been fighting uphill battles? There are over 360 bills from the House of Representatives sitting on Hary Reid's desk that he refuses to bring to the floor. This will change in January... and the true obstructionist will be exposed. I think you are an amazing leader, but this post really offended me Sir. I have spent the last 8 years of my life to bring down the most corrupt politician in DC... Harry Reid. Tonight I drink champaign. Lysistrata...I agree to a lot of your views, but you really should tone it back some. You come off quite aggressive, and your views are not the only ones that are allowed to be said. You can debate/discuss a point without being so in your face because an individual has a different opinion then you. I enjoy a good discussion from different views, but I can't stand when someone makes someone feel like their thoughts/opinion/views mean nothing because they're different then theirs. These are why I hate to see topics like these even started, because it always becomes hostile instead of debating, instead of at the end of the day, we're all entitled to our own views and beliefs so leave it at that. The mere fact you got "offended" over a post that you took different from your views and instantly went on the attack is why I dread seeing such topics, as it just ends up bad and people pissed off. And tbh...I don't get why you got so offended. LE's post is making a very realistic point. You're making assumptions to what LE meant by his post, and no where did I read LE say that Republicans are not people, nor that Democrats can only do things "constructive." The point made is probably a likely scenario. You have Republicans going to push bills that favor Republican views/ideals and likely not look to work with Democrats because they have majority in both House and Senate, and you have a Democratic President who will likely not like the bills, and thus fight for his parties view. You come off as if roles were reversed, a Republican President would not do the same, and the truth is, they would. It's going to be a big tug of war match which will likely end up stalling most of everything, and it's not one side's fault or the other, it's both of their faults because neither want to actually work together to come up with a decent proposal that both sides can support, and that actually would help America. The Republicans wont care about Democrats thoughts or views because they have majority in congress so they don't need to, and you got a President who is the last line of Defense for Democrats to not just let Republicans pass what they want. So LE's point is likely spot on, nothing constructive is going to happen because both sides are going to have zero interest in the other's opinions, Republicans in Congress because they can now get what they want passed without Democrats, and a Democratic President who doesn't care what Republicans think, because he's the President and he has power that Republicans don't have in the oval office. To go along at what you wanted to point out at LE, where you took his response that you think he meant only Democrats can be constructive...not only Republicans can be constructive to. At the end of the day, I really think you took that post way to personal and I believe you took it in a lot different way then it was meant. Though I can't speak for LE, I see nothing in that response that hinted at what you assumed LE meant, and a diss only to Republicans. I think that comment was directed at both parties, that are not going to work with each other, and thus nothing constructive will get done because neither side is going to budge. And even if it was, LE stated his opinion, just as you have, you should respect someone's right to their opinion, even if yours might be different And finally.... I ask everyone to be respectful to everyone here. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and if you do not like it, and want to debate it, then do it in a respectful manner. Present facts, present your thoughts on why you think differently if you do, but do not attack someone. I like these topics because I think they're nice to see people's different views even if they differ from mine...but I will not let people get belittled or bullied, or this topic will be closed. Topics on politics, religion, etc on forums like these turn usually turn out bad...so I hope it doesn't become that way. This x2. Lysistrata,while I am generally right leaning, and agree with your assertion that Democrats can be obtuse. I feel that there just be open debate. Hence, my feelings bills need to come up to vote so tha there can be debate. Not all Republicans are the best people neither are democrats. What matters is that we have open debate.