SeaBeeGipson

How many votes are required for the lynch? Also, I got confirmation from Brewers that my 1 shot was not used. He wont confirm it here because that would confirm my role and be game breaking (dont see how). With votes seeming to come quick, I'd rather not have a wagon close the day early and end with a no lynch again. Someone has a PR that kept me alive (possibly a vote thief). Either way someone out there knows what kept me alive and that I'm not lying. If you do plan to lynch me, if Velocity is a cop, I'm interested to see his results on me.

You would've died on D1 anyway with the way the lynch was heading. Scum had nothing to lose and everything to gain with a fake claim as a cop. Of course, Rhizo is the one who got the wrong result on me (not you) however, it just seems fishy to me that you would claim cop that early, and your results have all been guilty AND you've managed to hit the same target as Rhizo on the same day. As far as sewing chaos, that would be a goal of scum. I'm not sold on anyone being scum right now but the red flags seem the worst in your case to me.

So every result has been guilty so far and were still trying to lynch me off a guilty result? It's obvious the results are being skewed by a PR or modifier(s) somehow. Anyway, as I used my 1 shot to avoid death in hope that's Velocity would investigate me and see I was town, I'll roleclaim. I am Brandi Love, a 1-shot Deathproof Town MILF. I let my 1 shot be used as a lynchproof shot to survive in hopes Velocity would investigate me. I want to note I got no confirmation that my 1 shot was used up and may have been saved by some other means. Or Brewers just wont let me know I'm not deathproof anymore. Either way, lynching me will lose another townie (were already down 2.) I still find it odd we have 2 cops, and every result being guilty so far is questionable. Either one is lying or other factors are at play. It's worth noting Velocity claimed cop right as he was about to be lynched, and goes as far to claim he investigated and got the same result as Rhizo tonight. I'm believing Velocity is the liar here and is faking results to keep himself alive and take townies out in the process. Vote: Velocity

Well why would a cop come out and claim their results on D2? I know I'm town and I'm actually not thinking of a insane modifier nor a tailor, but potentially Rhizo is a jester. Theres funny stuff going on in the sheet and Brewers has added jesters before. Fake claim a result D2, get me lynched, then gets lynched D3 and wins as hes a jester. Of course he could be a cop (I doubt we have 2 cops in the midst) and a tailor hit me, or I have a hidden modifier showing im guilty. I dont know what to say really except I know I'm town and lynching me will only bring us 1 townie down

Oh wait no he voted for me earlier, missed that. Anyway, I stand by my word of you being a tease.

I personally would go with a randomize kill, even with me in the running to be the death. I'm for a death D1 but in this setup a death happens anyway we go. We've already got our wagons fairly picked with some people jumping from Velocity to me, others placed elsewhere. We can still analyze who jumps where, but I just dont see much with everyone dogpiling one person that we can gain. If a lynch happens, good. If not, we still get a death to analyze. Vote:, Eogrim States he wants a gangbang, doesnt vote anyone. Dont be a tease

Geez, I was popular N1. Rhizo targeted me. MK targeted me. Even I targeted me. Lll. Gratz Eogrim on carrying the victory, hopefully I wasnt too heavy to carry through this.

Why would scum risk being on the low post count with this game setup? Sorry for my inactivity though, and I'll try to post more. Unvote as Velocitys claim is pretty solid without a counter claim.

Jazzy shouldn't be lynched as he's the closest porn star named guy we have. If only Rearview Rover had elected to play. That's a pornstar name if we had one. Vote EoGrim

Fireworks ain't the only thing getting lit tonight

Oh yes guys, shes immediately coming for me. And request change of game breaking rule. If you vote no lynch, someone from YOUR faction dies. Therefore, say someone is about to be lynched and thinks their PR is important, they can just vote NL and when a townie dies theyll say "see I'm town".

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While I agree if Kevin flips town, MK should rightfully so jump to Suspect #1 but with how we would have no scum dead by the time Kevin dies, I would recommend we play it safe. We have no idea if a tailor is present, and if we rush in with kills left and right, were going to shoot ourselves in the foot. We lose nothing by holding off on a vig kill, and only scum and SK (if it's a SK not a vig) have to gain if Kevin is town and was hit by a tailor. A far reach but better safe than sorry. Granted, today is moving slow and with the information given, I feel I have no evidence to not support MK especially with the lack of a counter claim to a cop role. Vote KevinH

I always theorized Toby was himself the Scranton Strangler, hence his insistence that the guy he sent to jail was innocent. Again, I am wary on the situation a mis-lynch could pose if MK was scum based on my last post. The vote for CM does seem weird, as if Kevin is to be aware of anyone, it would MK. I'm confused on that vote.

I'm inclined to believe MK, but with the numbers the way they are, I feel we shouldn't just take things at face value. With 7 alive, we potentially have 2-3 anti town. With 2 kills on a previous night, we may have 2 scum, 1 serial killer, or 2 scum with an extra kill ability. 2-3 scum with a vig is possible as well. Assuming best case scenario, we have 5 town and 2 scum. If MK is scum, and successfully gets a kill on Kevin, we go to 4-2. If the Night Kill is successful, we land at 3-2. Then what? We lynch MK for lying, and we end up at 2-1. That finally scum just has to kill one person and they win. On the counter, I doubt we would have a game without a cop role present. MK seems to be an "every-other" day cop role. Without a counter claim to there being another cop, I'm inclined to believe him. I'd like to see what every has to say before placing a vote however, as with the scenario I mentioned, even with 2 scum and no serial killer, we would be playing a risky game rushing into a lynch.

Oh shoot, I swapped your names somehow from TW's post, but did notice something. Velocity's wagon is Kevin (whom Rafay defended), MK (who defended Rafay), and Rafay himself. Whereas Rafay's wagon has shown interest in both wagons. Unvote Vote: Rafay I've stated my previous concerns with fake claiming for a scum/town suicide didn't make sense so early, but a fake claim to defend another scum does with a small scum count (if its 2) does. If Rafay comes up scum, I know where to look after. The way the wagons are laid out just seems concerning and I don't believe I'm smart enough to articulate the reasoning in my head into words. But it seems Rafay and Kevin if they're both scum have been aligning themselves closely.

I personally can't see past the whole "I didn't do an action as I was scared the tracker might track me" mentality. This only applies if you did an action on the person dying, which you would only know if you were scum on who would die. Being as the day is nearing a close, Vote: Velocity I'm split between them both, but this puts Velocity and Rafay at 3/3, so Eogrim or Velocity can vote. Obviously one wont vote for himself, but I want the opportunity to have 2 wagons present. As for Rafay, I haven't seen a counter claim to watcher/tracker roles, etc. There usually is a tracker/watcher role present from my knowledge, and coming out with a fake claim so early while not knowing if there is a counter present seems like a huge risk I wouldn't have taken. Whether Rafay did lie with a fake claim so early to defend his partner is possible, I see it as improbable. That being said, if Rafay turns up scum, I'd be highly interested in MK for what seems like a direct defense of Rafay and Kevin for being the target of an early role claim. A 1scum -1 town suicide doesn't make sense, but fake claiming to defend another scum in a small game (maybe 2 scums total) would.

But why are you worried about a tracker in the first place? As a townie, that shouldnt bother you. Should the cop worry about a tracker? Should the doctor? The only one worried about a tracker is a scum who targets a player who dies. If you target someone and they dont die, it makes your claim believable. Whereas, if you were to steal Isoc's vote, only the scum and/or SK/Vig knew he would die. So that whole reasoning still doesnt make sense to me.

Even-night vote thief, if you check my RC. Last night I didn’t attempt to steal anybody’s because I figured that I would be followed by a PR after not being lynched (which I’m still at a loss about) and didn’t want to get wrongly accused if I, say, tried to steal iSoc’s vote the night he died. I am 100% 1-shot bulletproof, so I still don’t know why I wasn’t lynched, I can’t exactly defend myself on that front. I’m thinking maybe a hidden role modifier or something? That’s my best guess. Someone educate me, I've never been bulletproof before, but does the modifier only stop kills or all actions? I'd assume night kills, but if it stops all results for 1 shot, I'm curious as to why being followed would concern you? The question really only applies if my understanding of bulletproof is wrong and applies to more than just night kills. Also, the likelihood of TWO passive abilities (lynchproof and bulletproof) seems highly unlikely to me

So 2 deaths so potentially SK or Vig. Doubt scum have 2 killing abilities, seems too OP. I'm not sure why the sudden wagon on Velocity tbh.

So there looks like the only wagons are Brewers and Kevin. While I'm not sure on either, I dont believe 2 no lynches works in our favor. With Rafays results on Kevin, Kevin could still be scum, but theres also a plausible chance hes town. Rafay could also be fake claiming or scum himself with a tracker role. As for Brewers, it's an odds game. This risk seems more validated to me as there isnt any results defending the possibility he may be town or scum. Vote: Brewers Note I encourage everyone to place a vote even if it's for no lynch rather than sitting on the no vote list

So I'm getting the gist of today is just a fight between Brewers and Kevin it seems. Rafay role claiming this early is interesting, but want to add just because someone was found not doing an action doesnt mean he isnt scum. Scum could have a PR doing the kills while Kevin is a goon. Just a thought, and I dont think we should sell someone as confirmed townie so far. Also as far as D1 lynch, my argument has been the information we gather comes into better use in later days, not D2. Specifically when we have counter role claims, fake claims, usually coming into D3+, itll help us figure what's the truth. Least in theory since we never lynch.

I quick everyone count while the council is gone

No lynch again, not surprised we have nothing to go off of Day 2. So what's the plan for today? Another no lynch because we don't have anything concrete to risk losing a townie? Randomly pile on someone and completely ignore the reason we don't lynch D1 by lynching D2 with no evidence? Either way, we have some people who were on a wagon D1, so at least we have something to go on later.

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