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Well thinking back, I did live in Vegas for a while and security around there was pretty tight in all public places no matter what it was. Certainly not close to what you'd see where I live now. I suppose the rural/urban differences are just that. Different. And thus, a potentially easier and more viable target

Yeah, all I am trying to say, is that either a better system of communication or slightly better security would be nice.

It might be strictly state law, but every philadelphia bar downtown has to have two armed(not gun) guards outside as well as one inside(w/gun). and the capacity of these are around 100 or 200. Given, philly is a little different, I believe that enhanced security would help

What do you expect an army? It's a night club not an airport. We're lucky to even have one armed security guard at a club around here. It's mostly roided out guys with enough muscle to scare just about anyone. Or in some cases it's even fat women that most guys back down from. Granted 300 people is a lot more than you'd see packed into any building here, but still. have we reached such a point that we need armed security at every bar? Yes. Its actually the law most places that have certain square footage or capacity that also sell alcohol. So yes, I do expect more, theres a lot of testosterone in a place like that. It is bound to get out of control at some point. Increased safety creates jobs too need I remind you.

An interesting point here is that there was a single armed security guard for a nightclub of 300 people...

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Ever think that the school shootings happen because of poor state legislature? Minnesota schools are required to have an armed police liason on location during school hours with an officec less than 100 yards away from the only unlocked entrance. Action like that is what save lives

Yes, I agree completely Fox Fire. The only way to look at this the right way is to take a long hard look at how we combat domestic terror, both in terms of privacy as well as physical safety.

The right to bear arms actually can save more lives than you think. If any one of those people in that club had a conceal and carry, maybe 50 people wouldnt have had to lose their lives. If people suggest taking away a way to rationally provide adequate self defense in a situation like this, it would be doing more damage than you even know.

Though I am new to this alliance, I would like to put in my opinion towards this ongoing debate. Though everyone is certainly entitled to their own opinions, I would like to step back and come at this issue in terms of economics. To plan a massacre like this one takes time, planning, and as previously stated a warped mind. I don't believe the issue lies in gun control either. One may thinks it does based on the results of countries like Austrailia and others. That being said, much like hard drugs, the people that seek access to an off market product will ultimately find it. Now, by having restrictions that make it "nearly impossible" to purchase a gun in the US you are not taking away the only avenue that potential terrorists have to a weapon of destruction. Instead, you are taking away a law abiding citizens natural right to own a gun for either safety or leisure without fixing or even limiting anything. That is wrong. What I will say to the contrary is, privacy and investigative discussions are the ones that need to be brought into scope. The regulations are not the problem, it is the way in which we are dealing with an ongoing domestic terror issue that is more at hand, in my opinion.