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[KH-02] The Hobbit

The Rules

 

Only the following roles may exist in this game: Vanilla Dwarf, Sane Cop, Doctor, Vigilante, Roleblocker, Mason, Innocent Dwarf, Jailkeeper, Tracker, Watcher, Gunsmith, Miller, Bodyguard, Role Cop, Doublevoter, Hider, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Jack of All Trades, Goblin Goon, Goblin Traitor, Goblin Godfather, Goblin Framer, Goblin-aligned versions of above roles.

The roles may contain any of the following modifiers: Even/Odd Night, Non-Consecutive Night, X-Shot, Bulletproof, Neighbor, Compulsive, Macho, Weak, Backup (with or without primary role present).

 

Sample role PM:

You are Bombur, a Vanilla Dwarf. Your power is in your vote. You win when the Company controls the game.

During the Day phase, each player may speak and vote inthread.

If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the Day, they are lynched.

At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched.

You may vote No Lynch.

After the Day, the game goes to Night.

The game thread is closed during the Night. The Goblins may speak to each other at Night. All Active Roles may submit actions via PM at Night.

The Goblins can, as a faction, kill one player at Night.

After the Night, the game goes to Day.

All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate the game.

Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)

The game is comprised of Goblins (mafia) and the Company (town).

The game is won when only one faction remains in the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

 

Mass role-claiming is not allowed.

Game Days will last as many real-life days as there are players alive.

Game Nights will last 48 hours but will include at least one weekday..

 

Alive:

8. Lorikz Kain

10. Rafay

11. Xarastier

12. Xx Karl xX

 

Not Alive:

7. Killgor (Balin - even-night tracker, and member of the Company) was killed Night 1.

6. Kaziocore (Bilbo Baggins, Compulsive Hider and member of the Company) was lynched Day 2.

2. Chaplain of Death (Ori, Non-Consecutive Night Jailer and member of the Company) was killed Night 2.

1. Alternate_Tree (Great Goblin, Goblin Godfather) was lynched Day 3.

3. D3mon (Thorin Oakenshield, Role Cop and member of the Company) was killed Night 3.

5. Imran Ehsan (Azog, the Goblin Doctor) was lynched Day 4.

4. Electric Mango (Fili, the Mason and member of the Company) was killed Night 4.

9. Noahband (Bolg, Goblin Odd-Night Tracker) was lynched Day 5.

 

 

Town wins (Chaplain of Death, D3mon, Electric Mango, Kaziocore, Killgor, Lorikz Kain, Rafay, Xarastier, Xx Karl xX)

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Unvote: Electric Mango

 

Vote: no Lynch

 

Even though it was 2 people it seems like the number of people voting for electric jumped quickly. I was just being silly. So we "know" that xarastier is carrying around some treasure with me and some other people that I may or may not have stolen a portion of, and that he is supposedly a watcher who can only watch on odd nights. (for future reference xarastier I dont think that the odd night part of that roll is something you nessacarily need to share, as it means that scum can feel safer in their kills on even nights now. But thanks for the role claim nonetheless)

 

It might almost be prudent in this instance to go with a no-lynch day 1 to let our night rolls have a chance to work. But as always, lets not end the day early when there is still plenty of time for scum to mistakenly show their hand(s).

'Sup company! After KevinH assigned Imran, Killgor, Chaplain, and myself the task of carrying this freak'n treasure-full metal crate (he told us it would only be a chest) weighing as much as a ship cargo container while the rest of you took point ahead equipped with night goggles in search of goblinscum, we stopped for rest under the shade of this wide oak tree at which time I got to thinking. I looked at KevinH's list given to us and noticed that those of us carrying this freak'n crate are assigned prime numbers! It would be just like KevinH to do that to designate us as non-goblinscum cuz of his pension for machivellian numerology.

Since I have this gift of Odd-night Watcher I'm looking for suggestions from the rest of us during the remainder of the day as to who I should watch tonight.

 

hhmm..so if I got this right..anyone who's listed in the prime number spot are with you. Interesting.... :mellow:

 

d3mon is #3 which is also a prime..why did you leave him out?

You guys are playing this game wrong.

If everytime we start day 1 with everyone immediately voting to no lynch,

we just wasted day 1 without any scum hunting whatsoever.

Mafia is not all about wait for the power roles to role claim and tell the town who to lynch.

It's not about, "Guys since it's day 2, let's start lynching the inactive players"

 

Of course at the start of the game we're not sure who the scum is.

The random vote we have during the beginning of day 1 is just to spur discussion.

It ends when a player thinks someone voted a player not randomly.

I like early votes because it builds interest in the game and promotes discussion. I voted no lynch because its the first day and without anything to go on, we are more likely to lynch a townie.

Vote:d3mon

 

You like early votes but you voted no lynch and you know that no lynching will cut off the day short.

From history, I'm sure if 2-3 guys will vote no lynch, the rest who are lazy to scum hunt or afraid to

vote someone or scum trying to lie low will follow. (Yes I know some will just say "I agree" then votes no lynch)

 

Since you guys are too coward to vote someone on day 1, I'll start. Now discuss or I'll treat you as scum

for hiding under the pretense of "we are more like to lynch a townie so let's just no lynch and call it a day"

'Sup company! After KevinH assigned Imran, Killgor, Chaplain, and myself the task of carrying this freak'n treasure-full metal crate (he told us it would only be a chest) weighing as much as a ship cargo container while the rest of you took point ahead equipped with night goggles in search of goblinscum, we stopped for rest under the shade of this wide oak tree at which time I got to thinking. I looked at KevinH's list given to us and noticed that those of us carrying this freak'n crate are assigned prime numbers! It would be just like KevinH to do that to designate us as non-goblinscum cuz of his pension for machivellian numerology.

Since I have this gift of Odd-night Watcher I'm looking for suggestions from the rest of us during the remainder of the day as to who I should watch tonight.

Oh god why did you role claim on day 1???

There's a role called roleblocker. If there's a roleblocker and if you are telling the truth, you are useless.

 

PS: Editing of posts is against the rules

To answer an earlier question, I'm sure in a game of 12 players, there are 3 scum, 9 town.

 

Kaziocore is right gentleman. I would rather lynch someone today and be wrong then go into tomorrow without knowing anything more than we do today. The townies best chance of winning is analyzing vote pattern, reading through the discussions, and the sooner we start the better.

 

Kaz also brings up a good point about d3mon.

Unvote: Rafay

Vote: d3mon

"I dont think that the odd night part of that roll is something you nessacarily need to share, as it means that scum can feel safer in their kills on even nights now. But thanks for the role claim nonetheless)" Chaplain of death.

 

A-HA! My ruse worked under this shady oak tree! Not cuz of his bad spelling, but cuz Chaplain of death revealed his scumness by (1) revoking his vote for killing Electric Mango for a no vote as a cover after finding out that I'm a watcher, and (2) for acknowledging his comfort & safety in killing company folk with impunity if in fact I am a watcher.

 

As for Kaziocore: Suppose I'm not telling the truth?! Sorry for the editing. It won't happen again.

 

vote Chaplain of Death

And the hope for this game to use logic instead of randomness like last game just went out the window.

 

1) Even if your role claim is true, you being a watcher does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING during the day and changes NOBODIES vote in ANY way. Please read your role PM before you make silly comments like you just did.

 

2) I gave you advice after how last game (to be blunt) you kind of screwed the town with your inexperience. Not that even without that we would have won but it didnt help. This was me giving you the exact reason why you should not have shared as much information as you did.

 

3) What spelling mistake did I make, please oh english nazi, tell us.

 

Unvote: No-lynch

 

Vote: Xarastier

 

As long as were going to lynch at random. Why don't we get rid of the unproductive.

why would you want to get rid of someone who is almost sure townie?

 

vote: chaplain

 

 

you acted very scummy with that post and frankly, it was uncalled for.

 

 

also, am i the only one who has trouble finding the logic of the sentence in xarastier's posts?

Unvote

 

I dont believe Xarastier is scum. And since this is Day 1 we are all voting in random anyway. So his theories are EQUALLY as valid as anyone else making accusations now. He also claimed to be a townie role. From his posts it is clear, he doesnt actually understand the nuances of the game. So it is extremely unlikely that he claimed to be a townie watcher role while being scum. Chaplain of Death ignores all these however and tries to get a role claimed townie lynched.

 

So agreed with killgor.

 

Vote: Chaplain of Death

Let me make this even more painfully clear for our audience which apparently does not follow.

 

I highly doubt that Xarastier is anything other than a confused townie (though his role-claim has no evidence to back it up so it could be a complete fabrication), but if we are going to vote at random to lynch someone, I would prefer to lynch someone who is once again just going to get in the way and actively create oppurtunities for the scum to win. I tried to be nice and give him advice and explained my advice and he turned around and said I was scum for it. So yes, I'm a bit pissed right now.

Vote:d3mon

 

You like early votes but you voted no lynch and you know that no lynching will cut off the day short.

From history, I'm sure if 2-3 guys will vote no lynch, the rest who are lazy to scum hunt or afraid to

vote someone or scum trying to lie low will follow. (Yes I know some will just say "I agree" then votes no lynch)

 

Since you guys are too coward to vote someone on day 1, I'll start. Now discuss or I'll treat you as scum

for hiding under the pretense of "we are more like to lynch a townie so let's just no lynch and call it a day"

 

Heh.. its been a long time since we have had this day 1 lynch vs no lynch debate.

 

While, it can be argued that the day 1 lynch provides us voting patterns, I don't believe that they have any significance. The decisions made on day 1 are based on hunches and long shots. The only thing that we can be certain about at this time is that the scum know who they are and will try to get the town to lynch one of the townies. Statistically speaking there is 1 in 4 chance of lynching a scum, realistically, if the scum play it right, we will always end up with a townie getting lynched on day 1.

 

I for one am not willing to lynch a townie on day 1. Now, if something significant was to be revealed, I might change my vote but at this time I will stick with no lynch.

The voting patterns that are revealed come in the band wagoning and behavior in rushing the votes on day 1. Because it is random its hard to actually get everyone to agree on a lynch day one usually, which means that the scum may have to bandwagon a lynch in if the day drags on or they may be content letting day 1 go by. That is the information that people who vote for day 1 lynchs are looking for. Its not about who dies, but who is defending who, on what basis. and who is rushing votes on who, on what basis.
Staying with a no lynch vote weakens the town. Imagine if everyone voted no lynch right off the bat. The day would have ended and we would not have all of this discussion to analyze. I already have my scum list shortened by a number of people, giving me over 37% odds over correctly identifying scum. Tomorrow will be even higher. Without this discussion and the votes that fuel it, we would not know anything more going into tomorrow than we knew at the start of the day. Votes, use 'em.

Unvote: Electric Mango

 

Vote: no Lynch

 

Even though it was 2 people it seems like the number of people voting for electric jumped quickly. I was just being silly. So we "know" that xarastier is carrying around some treasure with me and some other people that I may or may not have stolen a portion of, and that he is supposedly a watcher who can only watch on odd nights. (for future reference xarastier I dont think that the odd night part of that roll is something you nessacarily need to share, as it means that scum can feel safer in their kills on even nights now. But thanks for the role claim nonetheless)

 

It might almost be prudent in this instance to go with a no-lynch day 1 to let our night rolls have a chance to work. But as always, lets not end the day early when there is still plenty of time for scum to mistakenly show their hand(s).

Spare me your mispelled and fearful advice Chaplain. Do me no favors and I'll do you no harm. I may be a noob but stupid I'm not. The "good candidate to lynch" that you want to be given is non other than yourself. Ask not for whom the bell tolls Chaplain. It's better to be pissed on than to be pissed off :comeatmebro:/>

 

Doubledown vote Chaplain of death

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Dwarves in the Company

Look for scum

Goblins among them

Are not dumb

 

 

Vote count:

Chaplain of Death (3): Xarastier, Killgor, Imran Ehsan

Electric Mango (2): Rafay, Noahband

D3mon (2): Kaziocore, Electric Mango

Imran Ehsan (1): Xx Karl xX

Xarastier (1): Chaplain of Death

 

No-Lynch (2): D3mon, Alternate_Tree

 

Not voting (1): Lorikz Kain

 

Deadline is Saturday, February 2.

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch, or 4 at deadline.

I'm honestly to the point where I think this may be my last game of Mafia with this group. Xarastier is quite obviously trolling us and people are not only letting him do it, but encouraging him to do it.

 

I dont care anymore, if Xarastier is part of the town, then I'd like to see the town lose.

 

Unvote: Xarastier

 

Vote: Chaplain of death

 

I dont care if its legal to do so or not. The point is made, if you guys are so gullable as to listen to someone who not only has no clue what hes doing, but is clearly trolling, then you dont deserve to win and you've wasted KevinH's time that he put into setting this game up as well as mine.

"I dont think that the odd night part of that roll is something you nessacarily need to share, as it means that scum can feel safer in their kills on even nights now. But thanks for the role claim nonetheless)" Chaplain of death.

 

A-HA! My ruse worked under this shady oak tree! Not cuz of his bad spelling, but cuz Chaplain of death revealed his scumness by (1) revoking his vote for killing Electric Mango for a no vote as a cover after finding out that I'm a watcher, and (2) for acknowledging his comfort & safety in killing company folk with impunity if in fact I am a watcher.

 

 

Since spelling has apparently become the basis of lynching. I thought I would point this out.

I really dont care anymore Imran. I mentioned that he pushed the boundries last game with what appeared to be a complete intent on trolling the game, and what did he do this game when I tried to help him out and explain the game? He trolls and says that I am scum. And instead of seeing the obvious truth you guys agree with him. This isnt a soap box I'm going to get off of. This is me, fed up.

 

If we can't play the game the way it is designed to by investigating the discussion and the evidence each day to find the scum and instead lynch based on whatever the hell he wants to call what hes posting then fine. But it isn't mafia anymore, its just "lets play the lottery and see if we get lucky". That isn't the game I came to play.

 

MOD: Please find me a replacement if I am not lynched. I cannot possibly continue to play this game without blowing a gasket and completely cussing xarastier out which would be highly inappropriate.

 

I'll come back if and when Xarastier stops trolling or stops playing.

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