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[KZ-04] GOOD END : House of Horrors

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@ABigDeer - please neighborize Helix tonight. You can do worse than a mod confirmed Town in the neighborhood.
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And ABigDeer's claim that he can neighborize but (Simternity) chose not to, makes me highly suspicious.  Seems way too convenient.

WHAT?? Simternity WASN'T EVEN HERE.

 

Fine. Lynch Blaskowicz. If he flips Town? The scum team is me and ABigDeer and Daniel if there's a 3rd scum. There you go. You just won the game.

 

Simternity replaced Montosh last night.  Presumably this means Simternity had to confirm his role and submit a night action.  He posted today (Day 3).  

Are you new to mafia?

And ABigDeer's claim that he can neighborize but (Simternity) chose not to, makes me highly suspicious.  Seems way too convenient.

"Too convenient"? That's how neighbourising works - it'd be stupid that I would HAVE to neighbourise people and it would turn the whole neighbourhood into a s***storm if I were to stay alive.

 

Sounds pretty logical to me when I saw the actions. Yates is agreeably the most active person in this topic and seems to have a lot of knowledge of people so who wouldn't want more information from (even if he is scum), and because it's different from a mason it's possible that I could be adding more scum, so if Yates is scum he can't gang up with his scum buddies, or if he is town there isn't any scum eavesdropping on our conversation. Are you asking to become a part of the neighbourhood Helix?  :wub:

 

By the way, I would just like to let some more information slip - Yates was neighbourised on night 1 I'm pretty sure? I will have to check

I think I posted this in here but I can't be bothered to go back and look...

 

Simternity made one post in our QT. He said he was popping in to say hi. He said he didn't have internet for a while due to a storm that blew through Michigan [date of post was 12/22 if you want to check weather channel or something] and took down power lines. He was posting from a hotel.

 

I also posted early on that I didn't believe Simternity had time to neighborize anyone due to these circumstances way back around the time EM claimed lightning rod and you guys were checking out my "watcher" gambit.

 

I'm telling you it makes sense. And - and this is the important thing - it's PROVABLE. It doesn't mean he's Town but it DOES mean he's the neighborizer. And, if he listens to me, you will be neighborized tonight so that conf Town is saying it.

 

And ABigDeer's claim that he can neighborize but (Simternity) chose not to, makes me highly suspicious.  Seems way too convenient.

"Too convenient"? That's how neighbourising works - it'd be stupid that I would HAVE to neighbourise people and it would turn the whole neighbourhood into a s***storm if I were to stay alive.

 

Sounds pretty logical to me when I saw the actions. Yates is agreeably the most active person in this topic and seems to have a lot of knowledge of people so who wouldn't want more information from (even if he is scum), and because it's different from a mason it's possible that I could be adding more scum, so if Yates is scum he can't gang up with his scum buddies, or if he is town there isn't any scum eavesdropping on our conversation. Are you asking to become a part of the neighbourhood Helix?  :wub:

 

By the way, I would just like to let some more information slip - Yates was neighbourised on night 1 I'm pretty sure? I will have to check

 

Why on earth wouldn't the neighborizer neighborize the confirmed townie when it has that option? 

If you think EM is scum, what did he do on his visit to you night 1?

I've covered this like a million times. Short answer? I think he's MOST likely a role cop. That's how they'd find the tracker and SK.

Why on earth wouldn't the neighborizer neighborize the confirmed townie when it has that option?

You weren't an IC until Day 2, remember?

I think I posted this in here but I can't be bothered to go back and look...

 

Simternity made one post in our QT. He said he was popping in to say hi. He said he didn't have internet for a while due to a storm that blew through Michigan [date of post was 12/22 if you want to check weather channel or something] and took down power lines. He was posting from a hotel.

 

I also posted early on that I didn't believe Simternity had time to neighborize anyone due to these circumstances way back around the time EM claimed lightning rod and you guys were checking out my "watcher" gambit.

 

I'm telling you it makes sense. And - and this is the important thing - it's PROVABLE. It doesn't mean he's Town but it DOES mean he's the neighborizer. And, if he listens to me, you will be neighborized tonight so that conf Town is saying it.

 

And what, you didn't suggest that he nieghborize the confirmed townie?

 

Why on earth wouldn't the neighborizer neighborize the confirmed townie when it has that option?

You weren't an IC until Day 2, remember?

 

 We're talking about night 2, remember?

 

 

And ABigDeer's claim that he can neighborize but (Simternity) chose not to, makes me highly suspicious.  Seems way too convenient.

"Too convenient"? That's how neighbourising works - it'd be stupid that I would HAVE to neighbourise people and it would turn the whole neighbourhood into a s***storm if I were to stay alive.

 

Sounds pretty logical to me when I saw the actions. Yates is agreeably the most active person in this topic and seems to have a lot of knowledge of people so who wouldn't want more information from (even if he is scum), and because it's different from a mason it's possible that I could be adding more scum, so if Yates is scum he can't gang up with his scum buddies, or if he is town there isn't any scum eavesdropping on our conversation. Are you asking to become a part of the neighbourhood Helix?  :wub:

 

By the way, I would just like to let some more information slip - Yates was neighbourised on night 1 I'm pretty sure? I will have to check

 

Why on earth wouldn't the neighborizer neighborize the confirmed townie when it has that option? 

 

Because you were confirmed on D-2, because of reasons above no one was neighbourised on N-2 (please correct my if I'm wrong those events are so long ago in this thread and I can't be bothered going back). Now it will soon be N-3 and your suggestion sounds very logical so stay tuned.

 

If you think EM is scum, what did he do on his visit to you night 1?

I've covered this like a million times. Short answer? I think he's MOST likely a role cop. That's how they'd find the tracker and SK.

 

 

 

 

 

And ABigDeer's claim that he can neighborize but (Simternity) chose not to, makes me highly suspicious.  Seems way too convenient.

"Too convenient"? That's how neighbourising works - it'd be stupid that I would HAVE to neighbourise people and it would turn the whole neighbourhood into a s***storm if I were to stay alive.

 

Sounds pretty logical to me when I saw the actions. Yates is agreeably the most active person in this topic and seems to have a lot of knowledge of people so who wouldn't want more information from (even if he is scum), and because it's different from a mason it's possible that I could be adding more scum, so if Yates is scum he can't gang up with his scum buddies, or if he is town there isn't any scum eavesdropping on our conversation. Are you asking to become a part of the neighbourhood Helix?  :wub:

 

By the way, I would just like to let some more information slip - Yates was neighbourised on night 1 I'm pretty sure? I will have to check

 

Why on earth wouldn't the neighborizer neighborize the confirmed townie when it has that option? 

 

Because you were confirmed on D-2, because of reasons above no one was neighbourised on N-2 (please correct my if I'm wrong those events are so long ago in this thread and I can't be bothered going back). Now it will soon be N-3 and your suggestion sounds very logical so stay tuned.

 

What? I was confirmed on day 2.  Your role had the option to neighborize me on night 2.  

 

If EM was a lighting rod, you would have neighborized him.

If he wasn't a lightning rod, you would have neighborized me.

Why on earth wouldn't the neighborizer neighborize the confirmed townie when it has that option?

Actually, this is a good question for Blaskowicz, isn't it?

 

I'm telling you that my neighbor - who is a normal neighborizer - a role we all know and understand - wasn't around. He wasn't around due to power issues. I don't know for sure but my guess is that's why he was replaced. I was neighborized N1 before you were an IC. Judging by all the attention I received N1, it makes sense that people were Town reading me so I got neighborized. Action checks out, right?

 

Then you become IC. Neighborizing Doc decides to neighborize Yates who straight up said "DO NOT PROTECT ME?" Why would he do that and not neighborize the IC who was an equally likely target only DIDN'T have protection of his own? Boom. There you go. Blaskowicz is scum.

And what, you didn't suggest that he nieghborize the confirmed townie?

Psh. As if I had a chance! I asked who he thought was scum and who he thought was Town. You know, thinking we'd have a conversation? 12.5 hours later he made his post about power and I never saw him again until way into the Day phase. Again, I'm guessing it was power related but that's a guess. His posting has been sporadic and you can confirm that. I don't know if mod will tell you why he replaced out but my gut tells me this is why.

 

 

If you think EM is scum, what did he do on his visit to you night 1?

I've covered this like a million times. Short answer? I think he's MOST likely a role cop. That's how they'd find the tracker and SK.

 

 

 

 

 

And ABigDeer's claim that he can neighborize but (Simternity) chose not to, makes me highly suspicious.  Seems way too convenient.

"Too convenient"? That's how neighbourising works - it'd be stupid that I would HAVE to neighbourise people and it would turn the whole neighbourhood into a s***storm if I were to stay alive.

 

Sounds pretty logical to me when I saw the actions. Yates is agreeably the most active person in this topic and seems to have a lot of knowledge of people so who wouldn't want more information from (even if he is scum), and because it's different from a mason it's possible that I could be adding more scum, so if Yates is scum he can't gang up with his scum buddies, or if he is town there isn't any scum eavesdropping on our conversation. Are you asking to become a part of the neighbourhood Helix?  :wub:

 

By the way, I would just like to let some more information slip - Yates was neighbourised on night 1 I'm pretty sure? I will have to check

 

Why on earth wouldn't the neighborizer neighborize the confirmed townie when it has that option? 

 

Because you were confirmed on D-2, because of reasons above no one was neighbourised on N-2 (please correct my if I'm wrong those events are so long ago in this thread and I can't be bothered going back). Now it will soon be N-3 and your suggestion sounds very logical so stay tuned.

 

What? I was confirmed on day 2.  Your role had the option to neighborize me on night 2.  

 

If EM was a lighting rod, you would have neighborized him.

If he wasn't a lightning rod, you would have neighborized me.

 

 

Yep, exactly. You were confirmed on day 2 and on night 2 in the QT in the neighbourhood, Sim said what Yates said so it is possible that he never actually returned to the forum. I don't see how any of this is helping though? You are just asking questions for the hell of asking questions, it doesn't actually confirm anything.

 

You are pulling suspicions from me based on that;

1. My role didn't neighbourise 'You' - and if you were confirmed on day 2 and my predecessor had no internet access then that would mean therefore he couldn't add anyone else

2. That Yates is my only neighbour, reasons stated above

3. Actions of my predecessors

 

Let's think of the now. I am now the neighbouriser which is only on his first day and as long as I am not removed from the game so soon the neighbourhood will become more dominant in the house. Of course it's logical to add you into the neighbourhood, I totally agree with you and if it would of been me on N-2 it would have definitely been a choice for me but unfortunately I wasn't. So please let's just stop this whole debate it's so stupid.

And since that date might be misleading, if you click on the link it will bring you here:

http://vielmetti.typepad.com/vacuum/2013/12/ice-storm-of-december-21-22-2013-and-the-sperry-piltz-ice-accumulation-index.html

Which shows you that the storm hit on the 21st-22nd. Which EXACTLY lines up with our night phase.

There is literally NO REASON not to trust ABigDeer *IS* the nighborizer. Period. And that he WILL neighborize you tonight. Period. If he doesn't? Lynch him. It's that easy. What would be the scum motivation behind claiming unlimited neighborizer if he can't prove it?

By the way, I would just like to let some more information slip - Yates was neighbourised on night 1 I'm pretty sure? I will have to check

I won't say what day I was neighborized. Just look at our QT and tell him the time and date I was added to the QT. Helix will be able to determine when I was neighborized from there.

I don't trust ABigDeer because all that was needed to solidify things was him making a claim to neighborize someone.  He makes that claim and we ask that person if they got neighborized.  That would have proved beyond a doubt EM is lying.  That or EM would have been neighborized by ABigDeer.  But no, we have this chance occurrence that denies us this certainty.  It's incredibly convenient.

Inactivity happens.

 

You can prove your ability tonight, ABigDeer. Failure to do so means you're a scum ;)

 

 

 

Now, who to kill?

1. If Blas flips out town then Yates is scum(and ABigDeer, maybe).

2. If Yates flips out town then Blas may or may not be scum.

 

I'm pretty sure about Yates but in the worst case the first option might be more favorable. I'll leave the decision to IH.

 

For now, VOTE: Yates

Didja read any of those links I provided on page 46? Again, I can't PROVE Simternity was without power for that whole period of time but the coincidence is in your face obvious. I'm CLEARLY not faking a weather story as part of some scum gambit. Unless you think mother nature is on my scum team??

 

Jesus Fucking Christ. You are being trolled by EM, Lyner, and Blaskowicz. How you don't see it is beyond words. How you can even PRETEND to believe there's such a thing as a neighborizing doctor?? WTF... AND you are ignoring the fact that his character claim IS FROM A COMPUTER GAME!!! The only thing not adding up here is Blaskowicz. The fact you are grilling ABigDeer at this point is LAUGHABLE.

 

How about this - why didn't Blaskowicz out Simternity when you guys didn't believe I was neighborized? Why didn't Blaskowicz neighborize you or even ATTEMPT to neighborize you? Doubly bullshit because I flat out said DO NOT PROTECT ME TONIGHT. Was I unclear on that in any way?

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