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[Yates]

Heh, do you still think EM is a scum cop?  Do think he is not a JOAT?

EVERYTHING about his play screams scum play. Yet, I can't find a smoking gun and would have expected to see him trip up on a fake claim.

He could still be scum but given what we know right this second? I'm thinking Daniel is ABD's scum buddy because BP doesn't make sense with a Doc and JOAT that can self-protect but who the F knows...

The only reason I'm not voting ABD right now is because we still have info that needs to come out.

[Yates]

I am able to see the neighborhood conversation.

You know, I realized that as I was typing the above and was just about to post a correction. Feel free to take a look and verify the veracity of my translation of what happened in the QT last night.

[Iron Helix]

 

Heh, do you still think EM is a scum cop?  Do think he is not a JOAT?

EVERYTHING about his play screams scum play. Yet, I can't find a smoking gun and would have expected to see him trip up on a fake claim.

He could still be scum but given what we know right this second? I'm thinking Daniel is ABD's scum buddy because BP doesn't make sense with a Doc and JOAT that can self-protect but who the F knows...

The only reason I'm not voting ABD right now is because we still have info that needs to come out.

 

 

You didn't really answer my question.  Do you think his role is anything other than a bastardized JOAT?

[killgor]

i see no harm in role claiming today... i'm sadako (a vengeful ghost) and i'm a roleblocker.

[Electric Mango]

Your role will come in handy tonight.

[Yates]

You didn't really answer my question.  Do you think his role is anything other than a bastardized JOAT?

EVERYTHING about his play screams scum play. Yet, I can't find a smoking gun and would have expected to see him trip up on a fake claim.

...if scum.

I don't like the fact there's a RB claim, now, either.

SK [confirmed]
Doc [confirmed]
JOAT [mostly confirmed]
RB?
BP?

That's too many swingy roles.

Who have you RBed so far, killgor?

[Iron Helix]

I'm not asking if he's scum or not.  I want to know if you have any doubts about his actual role claim.  To me it's 100% proven he's some form of the JOAT, but you seem to be dodging my question and still seem suspicious of him.

[killgor]

 

You didn't really answer my question.  Do you think his role is anything other than a bastardized JOAT?

EVERYTHING about his play screams scum play. Yet, I can't find a smoking gun and would have expected to see him trip up on a fake claim.

...if scum.

I don't like the fact there's a RB claim, now, either.

SK [confirmed]
Doc [confirmed]
JOAT [mostly confirmed]
RB?
BP?

That's too many swingy roles.

Who have you RBed so far, killgor?

 

 

 

d1: commander sheppard

d2:robert angel

d3: lyner

[Iron Helix]

Just a thought, but if the wolf killer could be Lyner, and the roleblock might be an explanation as to why there wasn't a kill by wolves last night. 

[Iron Helix]

Just a thought, but the wolf killer could be Lyner, and the roleblock might be an explanation as to why there wasn't a kill by wolves last night. 

[Lyner]

Wasn't the wolf killer Freddy? :|

 

 

 

I'm Pyramid Head, a Demon of Vengeance

 

Ability is Retribution, if the one I targeted at night kills a townie, I'll kill him

 

 

 

First night is Theo, second night is Imran, third night is ABD, all failure

 

 

 

I'm ready to hammer ABD anytime

[killgor]

i also thought that freddie was the wolf killer.

[ABigDeer]

Well placating Iron Helix came to be a failure anyways seeing as he is still suspicious of me - 10 points for diplomacy.

 

What else is there to say? IH says I am an unknown character, as stated before I have already put out my claim - Slimer, Neighbouriser. Any more allegations and I will happily try shed some light on the matter.

 

There are still people by-standing this that roles still need to be filled. People who are suspected are people who are contributing to the thread, ACDS died so despite my suspicions EM is telling truth though I still don't get his role but that's just me, I don't know too much about roles except the basics. So really all I can say is that people need to bring forward their thoughts, rather than follow a lynch train (look at what has happened the previous days).

 

@Yates - I am interested as that you have always been a target for suspicion since like day 1, no gloating intended if that's how you felt. And as always, there is a twist in the plot which is the death of ACDS.

[Yates]

I'm not asking if he's scum or not.  I want to know if you have any doubts about his actual role claim.  To me it's 100% proven he's some form of the JOAT, but you seem to be dodging my question and still seem suspicious of him.

I haven't been "dodging" your question.  I answered it wholly.  I think his play is scummy but his role claim seems to check out.  I can't see scum targeting themselves for a kill so unless someone is going to claim they vig shot Angel?  I can't think of a plausible reason for Angel to be dead and I have to say EM's claim checks out - *despite all other evidence to the contrary.*

 

Also, since you can now read the QT, please take a look at what has been posted and verify that everything I've been saying about the neighborhood is true.

 

Specifically:

1. ABD *IS* a neighborizer.  Obviously you just confirmed this but there were some doubts about this claim as recently as yesterday.

2. I was added when I claimed I was added [since this was vetted by probable scum].

3. Muted and Montosh never said ANYTHING in the QT.

4. Sim only made the post about the power outage in MI [which I spent an inordinate amount of time vetting last day phase] and nothing else.

5. No one else was added to the QT.

6. I knew no one else was added to the QT because the mod posts when someone is added stating their name and that they were added.

 

This is important because it illustrates that I've been more truthful than people think outside of what are very clear gambit plays.  It will also explain precisely why I would have no reason to believe the neighborizing claim yesterday from a slot I was already scum reading.  From my perspective - I had a scum read on the neighborizing Doc slot, the claim made no sense [a role that has never existed before], I had been neighborized so I had a vetted neighborizer, a second neighborizing role ALSO made no sense, and the name claim was [and is] out of context with known flips.  Ergo my "village idiot" status is entirely caused by a bastard setup - which SHOULD BE explicitly stated in the rules and wasn't - in a game I had no reason not to assume was normal.

[Electric Mango]

Lets hammer this home shall we?

[Iron Helix]

ABigDeer - Neighborizer, Slimer

Daniel Vigrid - 1 shot BP, Headless horseman

Electric Mango - Bastardized JOAT, Flying Spaghetti Monster

Imran Ehsan - Unknown role, unknown character

Iron Helix - Innocent child, Casper

killgor - Roleblocker, Sadako

Lyner - Retribution, Pyramid Head

Yates - Tracker, Mummy

 

So just need Imran's claim now.  I had forgotten ABD claimed he was Slimer.

 

 

 

I'm not asking if he's scum or not.  I want to know if you have any doubts about his actual role claim.  To me it's 100% proven he's some form of the JOAT, but you seem to be dodging my question and still seem suspicious of him.

I haven't been "dodging" your question.  I answered it wholly.  I think his play is scummy but his role claim seems to check out.  I can't see scum targeting themselves for a kill so unless someone is going to claim they vig shot Angel?  I can't think of a plausible reason for Angel to be dead and I have to say EM's claim checks out - *despite all other evidence to the contrary.*

 

 

More than that, EM had to have been the lightning rod and had to have been on the end of a kill that was thwarted if our TOWN neighborizing doctor was able to neighborize him.  We know that our town doctor targeted you on night 2, but saved EM from the NK.  It was proven the moment Blask flipped town.  And now that killgor has claimed to have roleblocked Angel on night 2, we'd have to explain how the neighborizing/saving power was triggered if Angel had actually been roleblocked.  It makes sense if the roleblock was redirected at EM (coming after EM's power had already occurred) and Angel's kill went through on EM.

 

 

Wasn't the wolf killer Freddy? :|

 

That might be.  Not sure why CS's death was described as "torn apart by wolves" if Freddy did it.  

 

 

[Iron Helix]

Ergo my "village idiot" status is entirely caused by a bastard setup - which SHOULD BE explicitly stated in the rules and wasn't - in a game I had no reason not to assume was normal.

 

Actually it was stated in the rules (See: The part about not outguessing the mod and expecting the unexpected). And we've talked about how games around here, especially Kaz's games are Role Madness games, with nearly everyone having a night action.  This is my first game with Kaz as the moderator, but I have looked over the other games he's moderated, and roles such as neighborizing doctor were not implausible considering those games.  

[Iron Helix]

More than that, EM had to have been the lightning rod and had to have been on the end of a kill that was thwarted if our TOWN neighborizing doctor was able to neighborize him.  We know that our town doctor targeted you on night 2, but saved EM from the NK.  It was proven the moment Blask flipped town.  And now that killgor has claimed to have roleblocked Angel on night 2, we'd have to explain how the neighborizing/saving power was triggered if Angel had actually been roleblocked.  It makes sense if the roleblock was redirected at EM (coming after EM's power had already occurred) and Angel's kill went through on EM.

 

Also, as an addendum to this, if the roleblock occurred before the lightning rod power, then there'd have been a second killer to trigger EM/Blask save and neighborizing power.  It just depends on the night action resolution.

[Lyner]

 

It will also explain precisely why I would have no reason to believe the neighborizing claim yesterday from a slot I was already scum reading.  From my perspective - I had a scum read on the neighborizing Doc slot, the claim made no sense [a role that has never existed before], I had been neighborized so I had a vetted neighborizer, a second neighborizing role ALSO made no sense, and the name claim was [and is] out of context with known flips.

 

Yeah, who would expect that there would be a neighborizer too in the town side?

 

 

We cleared up the name claim stuff back there, and the neighborizing stuff is probably related to how Dr. Ned can turn people into zombies

[Daniel Vigrid]

When we recount our roles, we should also think of the roleclaims of the ones who are no longer with us. I'm aware that this isn't the normalest of games, but think about this: how many redundant roles are plausible, even in a closed theme game?