Eh, breadcrumbs are meant to be found later to be explained in times of defense.

 

I'm not really sure what more stuff I can provide. From my perspective of a townie either our scum is REALLY inactive (read: iSocialism) or both are already voting for me (which is why I'm getting increasingly suspicious of KevinH, and I'm guessing maybe Imran is the other?)

 

Really, if you're scum, just hammer me already. You'll be getting a 3-player LyLo two days later

I also note that there's no counterclaim on my doctor role

I mean, if you look at the voting patterns, Comm Shep was also town. (EM died N1; and it's clearly irrational, scum or not scum, to vote yourself) So it's basically a byproduct of town not having complete information (in contrast to the scum having this information). Heck, this is the premise of Mafia in general.

Vote Count 3.2

     LordRagnar (2) - robert2424, PerfectMafia
     Imran Ehsan (0) -
     robert2424 (0) -
     iSocialism (0) -
     PerfectMafia (0) -
     zenonia (3) - KevinH, LordRagnar, Imran Ehsan
     KevinH (1) - zenonia
  


    Not Voting (1) - iSocialism


    With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

   

    zenonia is the current wagon leader at L-1

PerfectMafia, Imran Ehsan, and Robert2424 are the players I trust most to be townie since they actively lynched a scum with me.
 
Since PerfectMafia and Robert2424 haven't seen fit to lynch Zenonia with Imran and me, I'll join their wagon on LordRagnar.

Draw on LordRagnar

Or they could both be scum and know that so they are not voting for each other. Just pointing out the obvious.

Well, then there would be 3 scum left. Which you know isn't the case (pretty sure we would have 3 scum out of 12)

 

I don't know, I just feel very uncomfortable with *someone* being at L-1. Too dangerous. (And yes, I'm pretty sure I would've instahammered if I were scum.)

Or either the scum know you are scum and they do not want to vote for you. Or, either the other scum are/is (not sure how many are left) voting for you because when you die and it is found out that you are a cop it wouldn't look bad on them as they voted for a cop.

iSocialism has been poked

iSocialism has been poked

Received,

Sorry guys for the inactivity.

I have finished going through the thread, and there's something fishy about this guy

Draws on Zenonia

Or either the scum know you are scum and they do not want to vote for you. Or, either the other scum are/is (not sure how many are left) voting for you because when you die and it is found out that you are a cop it wouldn't look bad on them as they voted for a cop.

 

But think. You say that both PerfectMafia and Robert2424 don't think I'm scummy enough.

 

Let's assume I'm scum.

 

They cannot BOTH be scum is what I'm getting at. The setup is almost surely 3 scum at the beginning and Ronny died, so 2 are left.

 

It is possible that the other scum is bussing me. 

 

 

But it's a lot more reasonable that I'm a doctor (and a lot more consistent with everything), as nobody counterclaimed my doctor claim. Either way, you should be suspicious of whoever is/was voting for me. It's really fortunate that iSocialism was inactive and KevinH switched his vote.

 

For the record, I don't think the lynch on LRA is entirely reasonable either, but you might as well roleclaim since you're at L-1

I still think we should be lynching zenonia. Unfortunately zenonia now has the deciding vote so seems like LR is getting lynched. I really dont buy the Doctor claim. It does not fit at all with what he is caiming as being a lock breaker...quite a stretch to go from there to doc.

Also to add, if zenonia you are a doc, why did you protect Lyner randomly on N2. Why not protect robert2424, the only player who claimed to have an active ability at night?

Also to add, if zenonia you are a doc, why did you protect Lyner randomly on N2. Why not protect robert2424, the only player who claimed to have an active ability at night?

 

ahh scratch that. i see you said you protected robert on n2. got confused with that d1, d2 thing.

I still think we should be lynching zenonia. Unfortunately zenonia now has the deciding vote so seems like LR is getting lynched. I really dont buy the Doctor claim. It does not fit at all with what he is caiming as being a lock breaker...quite a stretch to go from there to doc.

 

There is no way I am lynching LRA without a roleclaim. I'm very careful with my hammer-votes.

I still think we should be lynching zenonia. Unfortunately zenonia now has the deciding vote so seems like LR is getting lynched. I really dont buy the Doctor claim. It does not fit at all with what he is caiming as being a lock breaker...quite a stretch to go from there to doc.

 

Actually, "lock breaker" (actually "safe breaker") is the flavored role. It is FUNCTIONALLY EQUIVALENT to a doctor, which is what I was getting at. (Well, I can't protect non-cop "kills".)

Well, I'll ask this. Do you think there are more than two scum left? We already lynched one iirc.

Pretty sure not. 4 scum in a 12-player setup is too much

I'd like to hear LordRagnar's role claim too.  If it's good enough, I'll switch my vote back to Zenonia.

Well, role-claiming is typically a tactic of scum so that the real person who has the role they are claiming will come out. I think there are more than one scum left.

Zenonia gets townie points for not hammering on LordRagnar when he has the opportunity.  If I was in his position, I probably would just to save myself.

 

LordRagnar hasn't given me a good reason not to vote for him.

Have you ever thought that if he did and when I was lynched it was revealed I was town, which is what will happen, that it would make him look suspicious. Of course he's not going to vote for me because it'll put the target on himself whenever the lynch is over. It is a good strategy albeit but I do not buy the doctor claim, as if he were a doctor and so sure I was scum he would have no problem voting me, but by him not wanting to vote for me that signifies an effort of not wanting to paint a target on himself when I am lynched and it is revealed I am town.

Well, role-claiming is typically a tactic of scum so that the real person who has the role they are claiming will come out. I think there are more than one scum left.

 

Not always so. If you had some night abilities it helps the town in that they have more info even when you die. If you are getting lynched, whatever info you had dies with you. So unless you are a vanilla townie, you dying without role claiming and giving more info to the town is a bad move. In this case, it seems you will get lynched if you dont role claim, so you refusing to role claim does not help the town in any way.

I do not have any more information on who is scum than any of the regular town members do.