http://www.funker530.com/us-soldiers-armored-vehicles-going-to-ukraine/

 

and this Rocket strikes happening

 

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/01/24/10-dead-after-rocket-strikes-coastal-ukrainian-city/?intcmp=latestnews

 

Things are escalating again. 

 

 

The sanctions are hurting europe far more than RUssia. Germany has taken a huge economic hit, and greece is already looking at leaving the EU for Ruissian support. The EU is putting pressure on the US to stop the non-sense. Western europe has to end the conflict by next winter or Putin can get real mean.

I knew already that the EU is right now in trouble. But as I found out from US friend, the US has decreased production of oil, in response to OPEC's operation of flooding the market with it. It will resume on full speed once the prices are back to normal. It is most likely that OPEC decreased the prices that way, due to pressure of the US. Now, Russia already is panting hard on those developments, given how reliant it is on fossil fuels. This whole debacle is not only heavily connected to all kind of conflcts, it looks like a conflict itself, one fought with and against the resources and economies. Of course, at the current state, Europe is doomed to lose more than gain, given how it's holding together.

 

Russia has the largest oil reserves on earth and refines the second most oil out of any nations. They don't rely on Europe or the United States for Oil.

 

Russia, like the US, is a major consumer; The difference being, they consume European products. Without Russia's consumption of these products, and without the exporting of Russian Natural gas (The United States has not yet been able to ship even a feasible amount to sustain Europe), oil, iron, coal, and any other raw or processed material you can think of, Europe can not sustain the sanctions. The US will not be able to keep it's promise to sustain them. It's a major logistical issue. Cutting Russia out of economics in Europe is simply impractical. It would take decades to develop a logistical solution.

Kerry has already said if the agreement holds, sanctions will be lifted, I think at this junction, Putin would like to settle this and be done with it. Europe gets a broken Ukraine that their taxpayers will fund with many of the politicians to be extremist nationalists and which will remain a liability for decades to come, State of Ukraine will also have to rebuild Eastern Ukraine torn apart by the war. Russia gets undamaged Crimea in return and enough hot buttons in Ukraine to ensure they dont cross the red line again. 

 

Economically, Russia hurts as long as oil prices are low. But they wont be low forever and Russia isnt in same situation as it was in 80s. Meanwhile, much of the shale industry in west will too get wiped out by the OPEC move. 

 

So all in all, sure Russia gets hurt in the short run, so does Europe, Ukraine is completely screwed, all it's liabilities and headaches  are now Europe's burden instead of Putin, Putin also gets Crimea and it's resources, with intact infrastructure. 

 

Dont pick up the ball if you arent going to play the game. Russia was committed to full deployment of it's troops, Europe/NATO wasnt, Economically, things are tight as they are, an escalation could have led to unpredictable economic situation. So, it was a bad timing by the Americans to get this started. Russia perceived it had more at stake than Europe. Americans were playing cowboys, I suppose Merkel finally stood up and said enough is enough.

Kerry has already said if the agreement holds, sanctions will be lifted, I think at this junction, Putin would like to settle this and be done with it. Europe gets a broken Ukraine that their taxpayers will fund with many of the politicians to be extremist nationalists and which will remain a liability for decades to come, State of Ukraine will also have to rebuild Eastern Ukraine torn apart by the war. Russia gets undamaged Crimea in return and enough hot buttons in Ukraine to ensure they dont cross the red line again. 

 

Economically, Russia hurts as long as oil prices are low. But they wont be low forever and Russia isnt in same situation as it was in 80s. Meanwhile, much of the shale industry in west will too get wiped out by the OPEC move. 

 

So all in all, sure Russia gets hurt in the short run, so does Europe, Ukraine is completely screwed, all it's liabilities and headaches  are now Europe's burden instead of Putin, Putin also gets Crimea and it's resources, with intact infrastructure. 

 

Dont pick up the ball if you arent going to play the game. Russia was committed to full deployment of it's troops, Europe/NATO wasnt, Economically, things are tight as they are, an escalation could have led to unpredictable economic situation. So, it was a bad timing by the Americans to get this started. Russia perceived it had more at stake than Europe. Americans were playing cowboys, I suppose Merkel finally stood up and said enough is enough.

Also, When Crimea voted to join Russia, there wasn't really a no option, there we're two 'yes' options:

 

Join Russia, or

Declare Independence and join Russia later.

https://news.vice.com/article/uk-deployment-of-75-military-advisers-to-ukraine-raises-concerns-over-mission-creep

 

How close can we get to war with Russia?

Wont happen, but if it does... Putin is the most stupidest person I will ever know. 

I found a demographics of the armies of the world if it helps..

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_military_and_paramilitary_personnel

Nice, thanks!

I found a demographics of the armies of the world if it helps..

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_military_and_paramilitary_personnel

Here is something cooler.

 

Russia vs Ukraine

Guys, we've been over this before. The US is superior in every way when it comes to military.
Ground forces? US has the best trained soldiers with top end equipment. 

Air force? "The largest air force in the world is the US Air Force. The second largest is the US Navy."

Navy? Don't even go there, no countries navy even comes close to the US navy...Just 1 Nimitz carrier has a better air force than 70% of the world.

Additionally, even if there was someone with better ground forces. I wish you luck with getting onto US mainland.

 

"Additionally, even if there was someone with better ground forces. I wish you luck with getting onto US mainland."

 

This made me laugh. If they managed to get onto the U.S. mainland... they would need buckets to catch the lead.

"Additionally, even if there was someone with better ground forces. I wish you luck with getting onto US mainland."

 

This made me laugh. If they managed to get onto the U.S. mainland... they would need buckets to catch the lead.

 

 

I found a demographics of the armies of the world if it helps..

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_military_and_paramilitary_personnel

Here is something cooler.

 

Russia vs Ukraine

 

Oh   thanks Fox

Guys, we've been over this before. The US is superior in every way when it comes to military.

Ground forces? US has the best trained soldiers with top end equipment. 

Air force? "The largest air force in the world is the US Air Force. The second largest is the US Navy."

Navy? Don't even go there, no countries navy even comes close to the US navy...Just 1 Nimitz carrier has a better air force than 70% of the world.

Additionally, even if there was someone with better ground forces. I wish you luck with getting onto US mainland.

I'm just going to say that if anyone DOES try an invade American ground, good luck with the guerrilla groups and riots that'll take place. America never gives up. 

 

 

I found a demographics of the armies of the world if it helps..

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_military_and_paramilitary_personnel

Here is something cooler.

 

Russia vs Ukraine

 

Oh   thanks Fox

 

FF vs FF 

 

Who is the better FF??!!?? LOL

 

 

 

I found a demographics of the armies of the world if it helps..

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_military_and_paramilitary_personnel

Here is something cooler.

 

Russia vs Ukraine

 

Oh   thanks Fox

 

FF vs FF 

 

Who is the better FF??!!?? LOL

 

Why did I think of me as Urkraine and Fox Fire as Russia? Am I weird?

Who invades these days? It's so stupid.

I guess we're moving out of the older days of conquest and expansion, and moving into an age of unification and alliances. We've become more civilized than before so its going to get out of our systems soon.

Agreed.