Hello David!... The U. S. "Bill of Rights" are the first 10 amendments of the Constitution, they are not "provided" by anyone, all United States citizens are born with them... freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, freedom to petition the government, right to keep and bear arms, right to a speedy trial, right to have regulated search and seizure... you know? Stuff that doesn't cost money, and no one has to provide a service for them.

 

So the United States Constitution + the first 10 additions are "free"? Nothing about them being written on paper for a government to uphold and enforce? Nothing about the same society seemingly forgetting another 17 "rights" and having to "add" them later? Nothing about the possiblity that you might find #28 being issued in the near future?

 

I did chuckle when I read up on Scalia and his "originalist" (seems like a word I would make up in english tbh) views. Society evolves, hence #1 to 27, and thats ignoring all the other books of law passed between 1776 and 2016.

 

Society evolves, and I have stated before I do count myself a conservative, but in the meaning of the word, as in "to keep what was was", just in so far that I don't see a "better way". Evolution should happen, but revolution nor standstill should be advocated in any form as they ignore the basic notion of time flowing ahead.

When anyone invokes the United States Bill of Rights, they are invoking the first 10 amendments. I didn't bring it up.

 

The U.S. Constitution is a brilliant document. It is telling the Federal Government what they "shall not" do. It's really one of the greatest, and most revolutionary, pieces of law ever created. Those of a selfish nature only invoke it when it serves them.

 

According to the Constitution, the Supreme Court has the final say on which laws go outside the boundaries of the Constitution.

That is why I included Supreme Courts in the list... it's my assertion that they have all broke the boundaries of the Constitution.

 

 

In the world of today, corporate oligarchy in the name of "ensuring shareholder value" would be the actual result of government abdicating its responsibility. Government is not the boogeyman. Management of the rules and regulations set up to minimize the negative effects of profit-at-all-cost capitalists is and should be the role of government.

Where in the Constitution is it the responsibility of the Federal Government to be against corporate oligarchy and limit shareholder value? Are you saying they would be abdicating a responsibility the people never gave them? If you want something like this, it should be done the right way... draw up a Constitutional Amendment, and get it passed... but that's just too hard, it's much easier to bullshit our way into super majorities and stack the courts with judges that refuse to stop it.

 

You asked me a question, and I did the best I could to explain my position. You still have the right to not like it.

 

Government that is truly "of, by and for the people" includes ALL people. Not just stockholders.

 

 

Government that is truly "of, by and for the people" includes ALL people. Not just stockholders.

I agree, but stockholders are not excluded. Who the hell ever said that stockholders are the only people? Your hatred for people who make money is taking over your ability to think rationally. Am I a stockholder?... No. Do I hate stockholders?... No. Do I want anyone singled out and punished because they are stockholders?... No. Are all stockholders card carrying Republicans?... Hell No.

 

I wish all people would keep their minds on creating a happy life, and stop hating others who have. No one owes you a thing unless you did a service for someone, or you loaned someone something. We need swift legislation called the "Tough Shit Act of 2016"... you want to complain about anything? Tough Shit.

I agree, but stockholders are not excluded. Who the hell ever said that stockholders are the only people? Your hatred for people who make money is taking over your ability to think rationally. Am I a stockholder?... No. Do I hate stockholders?... No. Do I want anyone singled out and punished because they are stockholders?... No. Are all stockholders card carrying Republicans?... Hell No.

 

I fear that discussing this with you is a little like discussing the bible with literalists.

 

Point out for me where I said I hate and/or want people who make money to be punished. I make a very good living. However, I expect that living to not be collected at the expense of all others.

 

Furthermore, if you're not a stockholder then you are voting against your own economic self interest. There is no rational reason for this behavior short of Social Darwinism. Unfortunately, you are not alone. This book is relevant to that phenomenon. This Libertarian paradise you espouse has the side effect of allowing the oligarchy to run roughshod over all others.

 

 

Government that is truly "of, by and for the people" includes ALL people. Not just stockholders.

Pointing it out... you're implying here that our government is of, by, and for stockholders... you're against that, and on a mission to change it. I'm implying that it's not, and you have some hatred or vendetta against investors. If I am somehow interpreting that wrong, please correct me. I'm not immune to hearing things the wrong way.

 

I am so utterly sick of Progressives telling me that if I'm not a millionaire or a hedge fund manager, that I am voting against my own interests by not supporting their organized theft of wealth. Progressives have no idea what my interests are, and they don't care what my interests are. I tell Progressives all the time that I don't want anything from anyone. I have made my own life, I pay my way, and I don't expect anyone to pay for my healthcare, my kids, what I eat, where I live, who I talk to, or how they talk to me. I love freedom... and if you turn your freedom over to a political idea, you will lose it.

If you turn your freedom over to the oligarchy it's gone just the same.

If you turn your freedom over to the oligarchy it's gone just the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM_YeUCMjII

 

I fear that discussing this with you is a little like discussing the bible with literalists.

 

 

Well what do you know, I was right.

 

 

 

I fear that discussing this with you is a little like discussing the bible with literalists.

 

 

Well what do you know, I was right.

 

 

I know exactly what you mean... I'm agnostic

 

 

 

I fear that discussing this with you is a little like discussing the bible with literalists.

 

 

Well what do you know, I was right.

 

 

I know exactly what you mean... I'm agnostic

 

Look! We agree on something!

I'll think of something to say... I'm laughing so hard my ribs are hurting right now...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd3UMU85od0

We're all more stupid for having watched that.

We're all more stupid for having watched that.

Okay lemme get this straight... you believe we are stupid already, and if we watch Hillary Clinton lie about her lies... we are then more stupid? Is that the official Progressive position on Hillary Clinton's honesty issue?

Ca you look into the CIA database for my file then Lys, as clearly no secrets will be kept then.

I was thinking Bernie might pull off an upset in Nevada tomorrow, but Nate Silver has Hillary now at a 72% chance of winning. He must know something or he would not have shifted drastically to Hillary's favor. I cannot know anything about their caucus until it's over... I'm not invited to their shindig, and mine isn't until Tuesday night, so I'll know when everyone else does. Good luck with your choice gang.

#FeelTheBern

Yes of course! I can feel the Bern of his taxes and mass unemployment from where I sit

Yes of course! I can feel the Bern of his taxes and mass unemployment from where I sit

 

I think you're just experiencing regular Nevada, which has managed to maintain a higher unemployment rate than the nation since 3Q2007.

I'm talking about if Bernie Sanders becomes President Niels. I would think you would know my sarcasm by now.

I'm talking about if Bernie Sanders becomes President Niels. I would think you would know my sarcasm by now.

 

I know you were being sarcastic .  I just responded by pointing out that you don't need to wait for future mass unemployment you fear to manifest itself - you can go see it right now, and very close by!

Hillary Clinton has won Nevada.

 

Hillary Clinton - 52.6%

Bernie Sanders - 47.3%

 

Hillary pinned that old vampire Bernie Sanders down with her size 8 pumps, and drilled a stake through the bloodsuckers heart today in my home state. She then buried the old bean 10 feet deep, and crowned the plot with a concrete statue of herself. Bernie Sanders will not see the light of day again in this race. Hillary Clinton will be the Democrat nominee... if she is not indicted. It's shocking that she has a hard time winning in states she has to win to be President, but will walk to the nomination in states she doesn't stand a prayer to win in the general.

 

I'm putting on my conspiracy hat now... and if it happens you know you heard it here first...

 

I believe Hillary will never receive the Democrat nomination. When she locks up enough delegates to keep Bernie from landing the nomination, but still has not reached the magic number herself... she will be indicted for massive negligence of classified material and using her office of Secretary of State to grant favors and receive huge donations to the Clinton slush fund... I mean Foundation. She will be offered a deal... to either remove herself from the race gracefully, or she will be publicly arrested, handcuffed, perp-walked in front of all the media, and hauled off to Federal jail for booking.

 

This is why I think this... Barack Obama doesn't like the Clintons. Michelle doesn't like the Clintons. Valarie Jarrett doesn't like the Clintons. Joe Biden doesn't care, but has always wanted to be President. After Bernie's long gone, and Hillary checks out... the convention comes, and there is no nominee. They will nominate Joe Biden as the saving grace to the party, and Elizabeth Warren will be his running mate. This way, the Obama's get what they want, and Biden didn't have to get beat up for the nomination. They will attempt to unite the party playing this game... but I don't think it's gonna work. I think the people will be too pissed off.

 

We shall see...

Haha nice conspiracy there... Yea even though I am a big Bernie fan everything from here is just going to bet harder and with super tuesday coming up and most of these states are with Hilary especially the stupid Super delegates. So I can see Hilary winning. But I hope we are wrong and somehow  all this losing pushes Bernie closer and closer to beating Hillary and hurra your worst nightmare comes true... 

I can't deny that I despise Hillary Clinton. She is evil incarnate, and has used the popularity of her husband to collect a resume full of titles, but has never done a thing to merit any of them... except the First Lady one, that she chose to keep by not divorcing her slime bag spouse. There is a trail of crime left behind both of them, and the absolute worst thing that could ever happen is for that lying witch to be sworn into the Presidency.

 

That being said, I really wish that if we must endure a Trump run... it would be against Bernie Sanders. He is an unapologetic Socialist, and Donald Trump is the most famous Capitalist of our time. I believe the United States of America... needs that fight. I want to put to bed once and for all time, this fight over what kind of country we are. Let's put the ultimate U.S. Socialist up against the ultimate U.S. Capitalist... whoever wins... that's the way we go, and it shall never be challenged ever again. I think we need that contest. I would support the winner, and that's how serious I am about it.

Wait, a 52-47 split means the 52 woman wins handsdown?

 

See whats wrong with winner takes all?