^good points Fermion. I am convinced.

 

Unvote

 

I no longer think Fermion is scum.

 

Kevin/Rafay combo is possible. Lets hear Rafays claim first. Kevin is trying to throw doubt on my investigation motives.

 

But we must not forget d3mon. He was the first to bring it up. He also seemed very worried about Fermion being a Vig and was advocating a lynch there.

 

Also iSocialism, TW and SM are lurking. There is probably a scum there. COD is scum hunting so I dont think him scum at this point.

^good points Fermion. I am convinced.

 

Unvote

 

I no longer think Fermion is scum.

 

Kevin/Rafay combo is possible. Lets hear Rafays claim first. Kevin is trying to throw doubt on my investigation motives.

 

But we must not forget d3mon. He was the first to bring it up. He also seemed very worried about Fermion being a Vig and was advocating a lynch there.

 

Also iSocialism, TW and SM are lurking. There is probably a scum there. COD is scum hunting so I dont think him scum at this point.

 

I was also the first to point out that he might not be the best guy to lynch but I can understand.

Unofficial vote count:

 

Fermion (2): The Warrior, D3mon

KevinH (1): Chaplain of Death

Chaplain of Death (1): KevinH

 

Not voting (5): Fermion, Rafray, iSocialism, Sister Midnight, Imran Ehsan

 

Or Fermion is a goon that didn't deliver the kill Night 1. That was my first suspicion.

 

Still likely, though we need to explain 2 kills. He is claiming 3 shot vig and its game over if he is not town.

 

 

The easy explanation is that somebody else is a mafia JOAT with the extra kill

 

 

We have already seen a JOAT, Tracker, follower, Voyeur. I am not sure if Rafay having the watcher ability gives him any townie points. Could he be the scum watcher?

 

By itself, a scum watcher wouldn't help the scum much, but it could easily be there to make the scum blend in.

 

Is Imran a scum tracker?

 

If we believe kevin and rafay are both town that will imply Fermion is also town. In that case, we would need to look at others as potential scum.

Or Fermion is a goon that didn't deliver the kill Night 1. That was my first suspicion.

 

 

MOD pretty much confirmed me as the Beast Boy which is a townie character, so I dont know the reason for you suggesting this.

 

 

Just going out on a limb here and saying that if you are going to use the "Im beast boy so Im townie" defense then Fermion and KevinH can't be scum unless they are lying about who they are, in which case people should have counter claimed.

 

 

Or Fermion is a goon that didn't deliver the kill Night 1. That was my first suspicion.

 

Still likely, though we need to explain 2 kills. He is claiming 3 shot vig and its game over if he is not town.

 

 

The easy explanation is that somebody else is a mafia JOAT with the extra kill

 

 

OoOoOoOoOoOoO. or maybe the JOAT hasn't used his kill yet. Rafay could easily be a scum JOAT who used a 1 shot watching ability when you investigated him. Interesting that you wouldn't think of that if you think scum have a JOAT. That being said, unless we are writing people off for their characters, Imran could also the scum JOAT and used a tracker and watcher ability respectively to achieve his investigation results. I find that unlikely but its still possible. 

 

Its unfortunate for the town that we have so many lurkers still in the game. SM iSoc TW Rafay >.>

 

Rafay you'd best get to confirming you are a townie with action results. we're running out of time.

If Rafay can comfirm hes a townie, then I will trust KevinH slightly more (though it could still be a scum follower or other investigative role). It narrows our pool of potential scum. Fermion, if you are the Vig, I suggest you target one of the lurkers (SM TW or iSoc). Then even it hurts less if you miss.

 

I still don't trust d3mon either though. He was willing to lynch Fermion even if he was a Vig and therefore townie because  he has a night kill. Knowingly harmful to the town, and the misrepresentation of facts to try to pressure the town into Lynching Fermion was pretty damn suspicious. 

Unvote

 

Vote: TheWarrior

 

Lurking, checking thread, and posting nothing when his vote still hangs on Fermion and he has been accused of lurking and being suspicious.

Game summary:

Day 1 No lynch
Night 1 Shahenshah killed by Rhizo the SK, no other kills
Day 2 Rhizo lynched
Night 2 TheDoom killed by Fermion, Mandarijn also killed

 

Claimed roles:

Imran Ehsan, tracker
KevinH, follower
Rafay, watcher
Fermion, vigilante

 

Unvote.
Vote: The Warrior

Bandwagoning with the one who just unvoted off of me.
 

 

 

Rafay could be a scum JOAT since we are so convinced there is one. Just saying.

 

Why so much bent on proving me as scum? 

If Rafay can comfirm hes a townie, then I will trust KevinH slightly more (though it could still be a scum follower or other investigative role). It narrows our pool of potential scum. Fermion, if you are the Vig, I suggest you target one of the lurkers (SM TW or iSoc). Then even it hurts less if you miss.

 

I still don't trust d3mon either though. He was willing to lynch Fermion even if he was a Vig and therefore townie because  he has a night kill. Knowingly harmful to the town, and the misrepresentation of facts to try to pressure the town into Lynching Fermion was pretty damn suspicious. 

 

You keep saying that I was pressuring town to lynch Fermion while I was the one to point out that flavor indicates that he is a vig and he might be town. As far as I remember, you were on the Fermion bandwagon and then tried to force a lynch on KevinH and are now trying to lead the lynch against someone else. I am sorry, but your actions don't make sense to me. I am going to come out and role claim to support the double kill block theory on night 1.

 

I am a commuter (its a X-shot role) and I traveled on night 1. I was also going out of my way on day 1 to become a target.

 

Now, to move to the next part of my theory, its not possible for town to have so many investigative abilities and I am certain that some of those claiming to have the investigative ability are scum. This leads me to suspecting the following

 

1) KevinH

2) Rafay

3) Imran

 

For what it is worth, the claims of KevinH are supported by Rafay (another person on the list) and Fermion (everyone already knew what he did on night 1). I believe at this time, the scum are most likely to be

 

KevinH, CoD and SM

 

Unvote

Vote:KevinH

 

Rafay could be a scum JOAT since we are so convinced there is one. Just saying.

 

Why so much bent on proving me as scum? 

 

 

are you confirming that you are a watcher? who did you watch on n1 and n2?

*Mafia Links Go!*

 

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Tracker

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Follower

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Watcher

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Voyeur

 

Look at all 4 links. They are similar, but with key differences. 

 

I'll even throw a bone out there for everybody. I like all these roles. But its a pain to manage.

 

Seems reasonable to me.

 

 

I used my action on KevinH btw, someone else did as well (don't tell who you are), but you'll know that I'm a townie now. Do we know what this action was, who was the second guy doing it? Plus, I looked through Mandarijn's posts, and seems Mandarijn was suspecting The Warrior. The Warrior was also the last person to vote for Rhizo, the one who put the final nail in the coffin, knowing full well that it wasn't one of his scum buddies. D3mons seems to be going with the flow and is someone who takes the least risky action possible, and sister midnight has agreed with tW on basically everything up until now without making herself stand out. iSocialism is a lurker and hasn't really done anythin to stand out either. So, my suspects would be: tW Sister Midnight

 

Up until VERY recently you were lurking and not standing out.  Why should we believe your role claim?  What exactly did I agree with TW on?  If anything, he's agreed with me and so have a few other people here.  I don't really know why I should try to stand out when I am trying to figure out which end is up.  I realize this is just a game, but I'm feeling mildly offended as I'm doing my best and participating to my best ability.

 

 

 

Its unfortunate for the town that we have so many lurkers still in the game. SM iSoc TW Rafay >.>

 

How have I been lurking?  I've posted when I've had something to say.  Clearly I don't get the fine points of this game because at this point I have no idea what I should be doing.  I am frustrated that I don't have much concrete evidence to add, and  my head is spinning with all the evidence everyone is throwing out there, some of which looks like a lot of conjecture and a lot of it doesn't make any sense to me, and some of which does make sense.  I have a pretty good bullshit meter and I used that to suss out that Rhiz was lying.  I still suspect Kevin and Fem more than anyone else.  I can see why iSoc, TW, and Rafay are suspects for not posting that much, but I'm really hung up on the inconsistencies I've already pointed out with Kevin's arguments. The only living people I'm convinced are townies are Imran and myself.

 

Unofficial vote count:

 

The Warrior (2): Chaplain of Death, KevinH

Fermion (1): The Warrior,

KevinH (1): D3mon

 

Not voting (5): Fermion, Rafray, iSocialism, Sister Midnight, Imran Ehsan

I'd like to apologize for my previous post, I'm having a bad day.

 

Rafay could be a scum JOAT since we are so convinced there is one. Just saying.

Why so much bent on proving me as scum?

Because you pretty much only post when mentioned and you refuse to share your action results.

 

My votes are all over the place because my opinion changes and develops as more information is given to the town and i process that information. Rafay still hasnt confirmed Kevins claim by giving action results.

 

And d3mon, you may have pointed out that he could be the vig and everything, but knowing that was a very real possibility you still voted to try to lynch him. KNOWING that he could very probably be a townie.

Mafia dose have day talk. I think Fermion may be already lynched.

Mafia dose have day talk. I think Fermion may be already lynched.

 

Shouldn't be, there were only 4 votes on him.

I'd like to apologize for my previous post, I'm having a bad day.

 

This is mafia.  I don't have to believe you.

 

I hope you're really having a good day!

Vote: TW

 

Lurking.

Up until VERY recently you were lurking and not standing out.  Why should we believe your role claim?  What exactly did I agree with TW on?  If anything, he's agreed with me and so have a few other people here.  I don't really know why I should try to stand out when I am trying to figure out which end is up.  I realize this is just a game, but I'm feeling mildly offended as I'm doing my best and participating to my best ability.

I was referring to your earlier posts about Rhizo

 

That said, I reread most of your posts and you seem to ask genuinequestions that a newbie would ask. Either you're trying to fool us or you are not scum, because if you were, you could've asked those questions to your scum buddies, both of whom would be experienced sine you, me, Doom and Rhizo were the only real newbs here.

 

D3mon, did you mention which Character were you when you role claimed?

 

tW: I still think you're scum for reasons posted in my previous post

 

Vote: The Warrior

Unofficial vote count:

The Warrior (3): Chaplain of Death, KevinH, Imran Ehsan
Fermion (1): The Warrior,
KevinH (1): D3mon

Not voting (4): Fermion, Rafay, iSocialism, Sister Midnight,

 

Did the extension get approved?

 

If not and we have a no-lynch, here's my suspects going into the night:

• The Warrior
• D3mon - could have voted for The Warrior but didn't
• iSocialism - didn't vote
• Sister Midnight - didn't vote

 

Fermion voted while I was composing.

Update:
 
Unofficial vote count:

The Warrior (4): Chaplain of Death, KevinH, Imran Ehsan, Fermion
Fermion (1): The Warrior,
KevinH (1): D3mon

Not voting (3): Rafay, iSocialism, Sister Midnight,
 
 

I'm allowing the extension. 

 

Up until VERY recently you were lurking and not standing out.  Why should we believe your role claim?  What exactly did I agree with TW on?  If anything, he's agreed with me and so have a few other people here.  I don't really know why I should try to stand out when I am trying to figure out which end is up.  I realize this is just a game, but I'm feeling mildly offended as I'm doing my best and participating to my best ability.

I was referring to your earlier posts about RhizoThat said, I reread most of your posts and you seem to ask genuinequestions that a newbie would ask. Either you're trying to fool us or you are not scum, because if you were, you could've asked those questions to your scum buddies, both of whom would be experienced sine you, me, Doom and Rhizo were the only real newbs here.D3mon, did you mention which Character were you when you role claimed?tW: I still think you're scum for reasons posted in my previous postVote: The Warrior

Dude, I played this game ONE time 10 years ago. I got lynched early and never looked at it again. I am a near total newb here. I have reached the point wher I'm actually afraid to give an opinion because all this scrutiny is more than I anticipated and I'm taking things too seriously. With that said, it is my opinion that Kevin is scum - hot, sexy scum - but still scum.

 

VOTE KEVIN