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[RF-01] Teen Titans Game (Day 4).

Welcome to the teen Titans game.
 
This is my game and while there may be many similarity to Kazio's and Kevins games, there are some Differences. 
 
The Game Rules
 
1. My Mod color is THIS COLOR. Do not use that Color. 
2. Votes must be bolded when possible. Unvotes are required to decrease confusion.  A majority of votes is required to lynch before deadline.Unless the game proves inactive, and the rule will change to whoever has the most votes. 
3. You may vote for a No lynch. A No Lynch Majority may only be reached 2 times. 
4. Ghosting is allowed in my game. You may only talk during the day phase when your alive. You may only talk in the night phase if you are dead. The thread will be locked for the first hour as it goes into night phase to prevent "accidents". If you are dead you may not give opinions, or thoughts on the current game. You may haunt though. Failure to follow this rule may result in you being kicked and a replacement found for you. 
5. (This should go without saying). Do not bring outside influences into the game - this includes threats, bribes, wagers, promises, "trust tells", alliances, etc. Using knowledge from previous games is perfectly acceptable, but try not to carry grudges from one game to another.
6. Do not talk outside the game thread about an ongoing game except where explicitly allowed to do so by your role/moderator. Likewise, do not use bbcode to hide secret messages - this equates to discussion outside the thread.
7. Do not quote communications with the moderator (in particular, your role PM). Paraphrasing is usually ok.
8. Role Claiming is allowed. Mass role claiming is not. Work for your win you slackers. 
9. DO NOT EDIT YOUR POSTS. 
10. Do not claim as scum with others, regardless of the truth of the claim. Claiming scum by yourself is fine.
11. Do not pretend to break the rules or encourage others to break the rules. You'll be replaced immediately for doing this. 
12. Do not PM each other about the game unless your role Pacifically states you can. (Mafia can talk to each other during both day and night phases unless they are dead). 
13. Try to have fun. Don't take the game too seriously. 
14. Day pheases will last 72 hours. Nights will last 24. Extentions may be granted depending on activity for the amount of players. (More players, more activity is expected). Extensions must be requested as EXTENSION REQUEST. otherwise I may not see it. Muiltible extensions may be given depending on your activity with your current extension. (Must be seconded by I SECOND THE EXTENSION REQUEST.) 
15. End of the day phases will be announced by the opening post/story of the day. along with night phases end tiime will be posted with End of day story. Night actions may be submitted early and you are recommended in doing so. night phases can end EARLY if all player submit there actions before the 24 hours are up depending on time I get all the night actions. (I can't end the night early when I'm sleeping or at work). 
 
Player List
1. Mandarjin
2. Shahenshah, Robin the San Cop
3. Fermion
4. Rafray
5. iSocialism
6. dagonslayer51 Imran
7. The Warrior
8. KevinH
9. Chaplain of death
10. TheDoom
11. Rhizo
12. D3mon
13. Sister Midnight

 

*Roles have not been sent out yet* Roles will be sent out after everybody checks into this thread. To check in please post the following,

 

I''ve read the rules stated above and agree to them. 

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Except it isnt game over. He can keep pace with their night kills if he targets correctly and we probably still have protective/roleblocking roles left.

 

Plus it would be 4v2 if he got it wrong so long as we are right about kevin which I'm fairly positive we are

 

Didn't get a chance to read this post before I voted but based on what I wrote earlier.. I don't see a way around it.. we can't let anyone who can possibly kill extra townies in the night stay in the game.

If both Kevin and Ferm are scum then does it matter which one we lynch?

Exactly. So lynch KevinH first and see if fermion kills who we tell him to. If he does then hes a townie because scum vig isn't a thing (best of my knowledge).

 

I have far less doubt about kevin then i do fermion, and the fact that kevin jumped on the wagon so early only makes me think that fermion is the vig more.

vote KevinH

Looking more and more suspicious when you keep messing up how many scum and how many townies are left d3mon. First time, maybe an honest mistake. Twice that quickly? Looks more like intentional mis information to sway the towns decision.

 

 

If ferm is townie then it will be 4v3 tomorrow. (Mafia night kill unless it gets blocked. )

 

 

 

My bad, you are right but that just makes my job harder :(

Which job would that be? Misleading the town to kill our vig?

 

If both Kevin and Ferm are scum then does it matter which one we lynch?

Exactly. So lynch KevinH first and see if fermion kills who we tell him to. If he does then hes a townie because scum vig isn't a thing (best of my knowledge).

 

I have far less doubt about kevin then i do fermion, and the fact that kevin jumped on the wagon so early only makes me think that fermion is the vig more.

vote KevinH

 

 

You don't seem to understand that if one kill is wrong in the night then the game is over. If Fermion is scum and still has the ability to kill in the night again, its game over. His abilities don't give us an extra lynch in the night. We have already seen a town JOAT, do you think that we would have more than one roles that can kill in the night?

 

The chance of scum having an extra kill and ending the game tonight is not something that can be ignored. Lynching Fermion ensures that we see another day and gives us a good chance to lynch a scum.

Just want to add that I would've addressed your post before voting but I didn't see it at that time.

6v3. If we lynch a scum and fermion is somehow a scum vig (still not a thing, at most it was one shot if hes scum), then its 4v2 tomorrow if nobody stops either kill. Stop mis representing the facts. You are scum along with Kevin and you have tipped your hand.

If we can't have a vig and a joat why the hell do you think that scum could have a vig AND their usual night kill.

6v3. If we lynch a scum and fermion is somehow a scum vig (still not a thing, at most it was one shot if hes scum), then its 4v2 tomorrow if nobody stops either kill. Stop mis representing the facts. You are scum along with Kevin and you have tipped your hand.

If we can't have a vig and a joat why the hell do you think that scum could have a vig AND their usual night kill.

 

We had some pretty strong roles and there was a bullet proof SK.. game balance requires that there would something on Mafia's side to make that even. Once again, I can't be sure but I am not willing to risk the chance of additional kills in night.

How are you so positive that we don't have a vig and they do though? They very well could have a joat. But that means his kill is gone and therefore that argument is invalid. As far as things to balance the game? They probably have a godfather (which became irrelevant when our cop died night 1), they could have a joat whos kill would best be saved until night 3 or so to throw the town into disarray.

 

Also if hes a scum vig, both scum night kills were blocked night 1? How? The chances are so ridiculous.

How are you so positive that we don't have a vig and they do though? They very well could have a joat. But that means his kill is gone and therefore that argument is invalid. As far as things to balance the game? They probably have a godfather (which became irrelevant when our cop died night 1), they could have a joat whos kill would best be saved until night 3 or so to throw the town into disarray.

 

Also if hes a scum vig, both scum night kills were blocked night 1? How? The chances are so ridiculous.

 

Ok, if Fermion is a town vig then why was there just 1 kill on day 1? He could still kill on that night..

I would give Fermion nothing more than 50% chance of being a town and you are running with the assumption that he is town vig.

 

I really dislike the scenario of this game ending because we knew of someone who killed a townie and failed to act. At the time I voted, you had already unvoted and if I really wanted to save KevinH then it would've be really easy to hammer Fermion before this whole discussion started.

 

Now, to the point of kills being blocked on night 1, the mod indicated that there was a fight downtown.. its not impossible that multiple could've been blocked or that scum wasn't allowed to use their extra kill on night 1..

 

Just wondering but are you scum and having trouble killing me? :)

I'm niether scum nor am i trying to kill you. I'm trying to get a scum lynched instead if a townie. A town vig COULD have decided not to kill anyone night 1 since there was no information to go on and hes more likely to hit a townie.

I'd like to see what Kev, Ferm, and TW have to say in their defense.

 

Defense against what? A couple votes without basis?

 

I think I stated succinctly why I voted and unvoted Rhizo. There were a few others that didn't vote for Rhizo, either.

 

Just suppose Rhizo was a townie with a role.  Shah was just as likely a choice as any to target and he would have been tracked the same whether a SK or townie with a role, so his plea wasn't illogical.

"Flip-flop" and "try to derail" are a bit strong considering the facts.  I placed a vote and then decided to give the benefit of the doubt to him.

The possibility of insane modifiers could invalidate anything.  We need to act as if our knowledge is correct until proven otherwise.

 

 

we can analyze in a what we know now vs what we knew then.

  • There was evidence that Rhizo visited Shah the night he was killed, but there was room for doubt.
  • The mafia knew that Rhizo wasn't one of them so they would want him dead regardless.
So despite it being a good thing that Rhizo was lynched, I'm going to lean towards believing that those that voted for the lynch have a greater possibility of being scum.  Interestingly, two of those voters are now dead townies.  Who's left?

FOS: The Warrior, Chaplain of Death, D3mon, Sister Midnight

 

 

What more can I say?

 

Well, I suppose I can add a few data points.

  • I'm StarFire, a follower.
  • Night 1 I followed Fermion and learned that he did not perform an action.
  • Night 2 I followed Rafay and learned that he did perform an action; I won't disclose what it is but it is typically associated with townies.

     

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/teentitans/images/3/3b/Thumb-starfire2.jpg

If Rafay wants me to reveal what it is, I will.

 

On the other hand, if you're asking me to reveal the role, I consider that scummy.

 

My rationale for voting for Fermion: he didn't perform an action in a role madness game -- sounds like a goon who didn't deliver the kill. (Note my previous post suggesting that)

If hes a goon who didn't deliver the kill then where did the extra night kill come from? If he was a joat he would have used another of his actions

Normally id agree with you about revealing someone's role but your role claim gave us no new information other than to lend some credence to the story of the guy you are still voting to lynch.

Whoa.

 

Lots of new info.

 

Unvote

 

Kevin why can't you confirm rafay's action?

Whoa.

 

Lots of new info.

 

Unvote

 

Kevin why can't you confirm rafay's action?

Whoa.

 

Lots of new info.

 

Unvote

 

Kevin why can't you confirm rafay's action?

Wtf

 

Sorry posting from my phone made the triple post. I blame Seamus.

Wtf

 

Sorry posting from my phone made the triple post. I blame Seamus.

Advantage of revealing Rafay's role: Prove I'm townie and that's it.

 

Disadvantage of revealing Rafay's role: Help the scum decide whether to target Rafay or not (If he's a normal cop they'd target him, if he's a voyeur they'd probably leave him alone.)

 

If Rafay feels that he has something to share, I would ask for the chance to post first and prove I'm telling the truth about being a follower.

Theres still no proof that it was not you and not Rafay..... you have no evidence and the way Rafay is lurking and asked for a roleblocker to identify themself he looks pretty scummy too so if hes your only proof that you are who you say you are then my vote stays.

That leaves

  • iSocialism
  • The Warrior
  • Chaplain of death
  • D3mon
  • Sister Midnight

 

 

those that voted for the lynch have a greater possibility of being scum. ...

FOS:

  • The Warrior,
  • Chaplain of Death,
  • D3mon,
  • Sister Midnight

 

Quite the overlap!

 

Fermion could be a Townie Vigilante and most likely would have chosen not to kill the first night.

 

Unvote.

Vote: Chaplain of Death

 

He's trying too hard to ignore the evidence.

 

 

That leaves

 

  • iSocialism
  • The Warrior
  • Chaplain of death
  • D3mon
  • Sister Midnight
 

 

those that voted for the lynch have a greater possibility of being scum. ...

FOS:

 

  • The Warrior,
  • Chaplain of Death,
  • D3mon,
  • Sister Midnight
 

Quite the overlap!

Fermion could be a Townie Vigilante and most likely would have chosen not to kill the first night.Unvote.

Vote: Chaplain of Death

He's trying too hard to ignore the evidence.

What evidence? There is circumstantial evidence against fermion, there is also evidence in his favor. You and d3mon both responded to scrutiny with...... "well hes scum cause reasons and you must be scum because you are providing an argument based in facts!"

If fermion continues lurking and does not post his defence we need to lynch him.

 

I believe this applies to all the townies at this time but yeah, its important that Fermion takes it seriously.

Now, time for my crazy theory, Imran is 2/2 on investigating people who did the kills and I hope that he is town but he is either lucky or erm.. there is something scummy going on.

 

My 100% certainty is beginning to slip.

 

Mod: Does the mafia have day-talk?

 

 

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