The biggest incident of mass shooting in US history. 50 killed (including an officer) and 53 wounded. And this happened 2 days after a singer was killed....

 

Prayers and thoughts to the victims' families. They were there to live life to the fullest and this event occurred.

 

 

But what's the point really to waste our tears if the government and people don't change their ways. We're gonna have that same shit debate that Muslims, not maniacs w/ guns are responsible for this shit.   

 

Unless the government doesn't make acquiring assault rifles and automatics difficult to the point of impossible, I don't see innocents being spared. People who can access guns can very easily fulfill their intentions of terrorism and violence. The weak US govt. has to act and grasp its balls back from the NRA and do the right thing this time.

 

The constitution is not the Bible. People who died 200 years ago made this document. They were people not prophets, everything they said or did can't be perfect. They didn't even believe that tuberculosis was curable or that African-Americans were complete human beings (3/5th).

 

So unless the stupid gun nuts change their ways. I see more of this happening.

In my mind, they don't, just like the Westboro Baptists out of Kansas don't represent all Christians (I have no idea who the first four in your image are, unfortunately). They each represent very extreme forms of their respective religions.

 

My issue is that, we have a group that has pledged to attach the US, and has the equipment to make Syrian passports. Why shouldn't we be restricting people from areas like that? We know that there are numerous Syrians that have emigrated to Europe. Yes, some are good people, but how many are not?

 

I think we need to slow down a little bit with the relocation of refugees. Figure out a way to effectively vet the people first. I've read that FBI Director Comey worries about gaps in our intelligence, so why shouldn't we, who have access to a lot less information than he has, also be worried?

If this image is a reaction to the article I've posted, then I can tell you haven't read it.

No i didn't read it.  I saw the beginning and assumed.  Sorry.  I'll read it.

 

If this image is a reaction to the article I've posted, then I can tell you haven't read it.

 

Well color me ashamed!  That really is an excellent article and my meme had nothing to do with what it really said.  Again, sorry.

ccabal86, I don't have that much time to read all of the article as I'm going to uni, but I got the gist of it.

 

It seems that most of what Nawaz rights is true but there are somethings I'd like to clarify upon, seeing as I live in a community where muslims are the majority. I'll post a full review sometime later, yeah?

Glad you liked it SM, will be happy to hear your take on it Myrr

 

What you need to know about Maajid Nawaz, is that much like Ayaan Hirsi Ali, he used to be an extremist muslim, and was actually imprisoned for this in Egypt by the Mubarak regime. AI secured his release and he left Egypt, but the time he served in prison and the conversations he had with AI had him reevaluate his life. Unlike Hirsi Ali, he hasn't turned Atheist and remains a Muslim but his insider experience gives him a good perspective of what is wrong there.

I lost half an hours worth of material on this topic...... fuck. I'm going to post it in the evening.

I lost half an hours worth of material on this topic...... fuck. I'm going to post it in the evening.

 

I hate it when that happens... lost 2 hours worth of typing once.

Yeah, pressed back space and bam, all gone. 

 

I'm afraid you'll have to wait.

@SM, can you place names to them all, I can't say I recognize them all >_>

 

 

My issue is that, we have a group that has pledged to attach the US, and has the equipment to make Syrian passports. Why shouldn't we be restricting people from areas like that? We know that there are numerous Syrians that have emigrated to Europe. Yes, some are good people, but how many are not?

I think we need to slow down a little bit with the relocation of refugees. Figure out a way to effectively vet the people first. I've read that FBI Director Comey worries about gaps in our intelligence, so why shouldn't we, who have access to a lot less information than he has, also be worried?

 

Yes scrutiny and caution. No to blind mistrust and sulking in a hole hope it will stop.

 

Saying that, US has taken in like what, 3k syrian refugees? That isn't immigration nor fleeing people, thats taking in some pittance folks. Like the pope did some months ago, heck he even "stowed them away" in his jet (which is an Air Italia plane which lands in Italy), hilarious

@SM, can you place names to them all, I can't say I recognize them all >_>

 

 

My issue is that, we have a group that has pledged to attach the US, and has the equipment to make Syrian passports. Why shouldn't we be restricting people from areas like that? We know that there are numerous Syrians that have emigrated to Europe. Yes, some are good people, but how many are not?

 

I think we need to slow down a little bit with the relocation of refugees. Figure out a way to effectively vet the people first. I've read that FBI Director Comey worries about gaps in our intelligence, so why shouldn't we, who have access to a lot less information than he has, also be worried?

 

Yes scrutiny and caution. No to blind mistrust and sulking in a hole hope it will stop.

 

Saying that, US has taken in like what, 3k syrian refugees? That isn't immigration nor fleeing people, thats taking in some pittance folks. Like the pope did some months ago, heck he even "stowed them away" in his jet (which is an Air Italia plane which lands in Italy), hilarious

I could when I had a version with the names on it.  Now I can't find it. But they're all terrible people.

Well going from top to bottom, left to right, I recognize #2 (Breivik), #5 (Osama). I believe #8 is an american mass shooter, I think... while #7 looks like a cross between Sadam and that cocaine dude: Guzmann.

Since we're trying to figure out who these guys are:

 

#1 - Fred Phelps (Westboro Baptist Church, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps)

 

#2 - Anders Breivik (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik)

 

#3 - Terry Jones (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Jones_(pastor))

 

#4 - Todd Akin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Akin)

 

#5 - Bin Laden

 

#6 - Richard Reid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reid) shoe bomber fame

 

#7 - Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_Sheikh_Mohammed)

 

#8 - Orlando mass murderer

 

Thank you Betsy and Google Image search

 

Edited multiple times to fix links.

Edited June 17, 201610 yr by hilowe

 

Since we're trying to figure out who these guys are:

 

#1 - Fred Phelps (Westboro Baptist Church, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps)

 

#2 - Anders Breivik (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik)

 

#3 - Terry Jones (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Jones_(pastor))

 

#4 - Todd Akin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Akin)

 

#5 - Bin Laden

 

#6 - Richard Reid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reid) shoe bomber fame

 

#7 - Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_Sheikh_Mohammed)

 

#8 - Orlando mass murderer

 

Thank you Betsy and Google Image search

 

Edited multiple times to fix links.

 

 

 

#8 - Orlando mass murderer

 

 

Nope...  

 

Mohamed Atta, one of the ringleaders of 9/11, pretty sure he was on the plane that hit the north tower. 

 

 

Since we're trying to figure out who these guys are:

 

#1 - Fred Phelps (Westboro Baptist Church, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps)

 

#2 - Anders Breivik (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik)

 

#3 - Terry Jones (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Jones_(pastor))

 

#4 - Todd Akin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Akin)

 

#5 - Bin Laden

 

#6 - Richard Reid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reid) shoe bomber fame

 

#7 - Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_Sheikh_Mohammed)

 

#8 - Orlando mass murderer

 

Thank you Betsy and Google Image search

 

Edited multiple times to fix links.

 

 

 

#8 - Orlando mass murderer

 

 

Nope...  

 

Mohamed Atta, one of the ringleaders of 9/11, pretty sure he was on the plane that hit the north tower.

 

Oops. Thanks for the correction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Atta

Muslim saves 60-70 lives in Orlando shooting:

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/06/14/war-veteran-hero-pulse-massacre/

 

Yea yea, I read breitbart daily to understand how the hate is spread to the lowest common denominators. Just check out the comments section. Utter and blind hatred even for the guy who served in forces and saved life's, just because he is Muslim.

 

I'd take a guess and say Lys you're probably an avid reader of the site and hope you put on the rationality hat whenever someone shoves down an opinion :-)

Muslim saves 60-70 lives in Orlando shooting:

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/06/14/war-veteran-hero-pulse-massacre/

 

Yea yea, I read breitbart daily to understand how the hate is spread to the lowest common denominators. Just check out the comments section. Utter and blind hatred even for the guy who served in forces and saved life's, just because he is Muslim.

 

I'd take a guess and say Lys you're probably an avid reader of the site and hope you put on the rationality hat whenever someone shoves down an opinion :-)

Nope... ever since Andrew Breitbart died it has gone to shit. I never read The Daily Caller either... even though I do like Tucker Carlson. It's never a good thing to crawl into the sewer on either side. If I read the comments, I feel I need to take a shower. The Drudge Report, Fox News, The Hill, and 538 tell me everything I need to know. Just keeping it real.

 

EDIT: I also follow Larry Sabato... Sabato's Crystal Ball http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/ The guy is a political genius, and he's never wrong.