My friends, family, and I have spent the last year or so pondering the slogan "make America great again." In what era was it great, and why did it stop being great? I M asking the opinion of everyone here, American, or otherwise. Let's try to share opinions without denegrating other people's thoughts, please.

 

 

Heared the guilty father (thus making him Trump's brother-in-law, does that work that way? Just sounds weird ) then got the prosecuters best witness (a friend/business partner) into marital problem when entrapping him with a hooker.

 

 

No it doesn't work that way.  He's the father of Don's son-in-law.  There's no other title that I know of aside from his daughter's father-in-law.  There is no relationship at all.  And if Jared Kushner wasn't married to Ivanka, I suspect Christie would still be in the fold.  Don's VERY fond of Ivanka and wouldn't want to alienate her.

 

 

The second we start water boarding we will be a lot less great.

 

So, is that now? I'm pretty sure despite everything the CIA still does it at blacksites

 

 

As far as I know Obama did away with water boarding.  Don and his proposed CIA head have both stated they support it.

Long story short, Obama's ban on water boarding only applied to the CIA and their respective 'black sites'. JSOC (Joint Special Operations Command) was not effected by this ban. The Defense Department is rumored to use water boarding on military service members as part of SERE (Survival Evasion Resistance Escape) training. This is supposedly done to allow SERE students better understanding of the types of torture they may expect to receive if captured.

 

So on paper, Obama's Executive Order only authorizes the 19 interrogation methods in US Army field manual on interrogations. This is what the CIA must abide by, except if the Attorney General steps in to offer 'alternative' guidance. But as I mentioned before JSOC is exempt from all of this.

 

Does the US still water board detainees? My best answer is no, but I imagine other minor Enhanced Interrogation Techniques have been used. The public hasn't been given any more answers in regards to this.

 

 

Heared the guilty father (thus making him Trump's brother-in-law, does that work that way? Just sounds weird ) then got the prosecuters best witness (a friend/business partner) into marital problem when entrapping him with a hooker.

No it doesn't work that way. He's the father of Don's son-in-law. There's no other title that I know of aside from his daughter's father-in-law. There is no relationship at all. And if Jared Kushner wasn't married to Ivanka, I suspect Christie would still be in the fold. Don's VERY fond of Ivanka and wouldn't want to alienate her.

 

The second we start water boarding we will be a lot less great.

So, is that now? I'm pretty sure despite everything the CIA still does it at blacksites

As far as I know Obama did away with water boarding. Don and his proposed CIA head have both stated they support it.

Long story short, Obama's ban on water boarding only applied to the CIA and their respective 'black sites'. JSOC (Joint Special Operations Command) was not effected by this ban. The Defense Department is rumored to use water boarding on military service members as part of SERE (Survival Evasion Resistance Escape) training. This is supposedly done to allow SERE students better understanding of the types of torture they may expect to receive if captured.

So on paper, Obama's Executive Order only authorizes the 19 interrogation methods in US Army field manual on interrogations. This is what the CIA must abide by, except if the Attorney General steps in to offer 'alternative' guidance. But as I mentioned before JSOC is exempt from all of this.

Does the US still water board detainees? My best answer is no, but I imagine other minor Enhanced Interrogation Techniques have been used. The public hasn't been given any more answers in regards to this.

I would also assume some of our elite personnel willingly submit to water boarding and other torture. I can't begin to imagine what that crap must be like. When we torture our detainees in that manner, I believe we lose a bit of our collective soul (not the very good '90s rock band ), and as already said, become less great.

 

I'll bet someone out there would say, "would you rather be the victim of a terrorist attack, or water board someone we think has information?" My husband was at ground zero on 9/11 and I spent a good part of the day of that day not knowing if he was dead. Together we had to live with the aftermath. I'd say we were victims of terrorism. America is diminished when we water board suspects.

The biggest problem with torture is that the extracted information is often unreliable. If you torture someone enough, they will say wahtever you want to hear.