It's not that I got quiet Robert with the pressure. Ever since a few weeks back, I've been quiet as a whole and not online as often (not just here) spending more time with my mom for RL reasons. It's why I've been scatterbrained a bit and inactive at times. Truth be told, after this game, I'll probably take a break from mafia as I don't feel I can dedicate the time necessary right now.

 

Sigh.


Vote: Vgmmaster

I meant a scum night 3 vig, fairly obviously, so your trying to evade that and not counting it as an option makes you look really suspicious. I feel you are the third scum.


And Kevin was not town. Kevin was scum.

Not sure how I typoed on Kevin there. Whoops.

 

As far as the night 3 vig goes, I misread your post there. That could be a viable strategy for scum. Have Rafay target a person and the third scum member target another. That way, at least one kill gets through. Wasn't something I thought of originally to be honest, but I could see it in retrospect.

 

 

Ok, so Isoc killed Rafay, and Keven was indeed mafia. meaning there is only 1 mafia left. So we have a good chance of winning this now. 

 

@vgm, what your current experience in mafia game. If I was the last scum, why in the world would MK put me up to give away the game? Trying to link me to killing Canik, is silly at best, when I was literally hiding when the gun shots were going. Not shooting. 

 

We can say Isoc is now confirmed town. I know I'm not scum, I can't even do anything. I'm wondering who Lego RBed. Theres no point  in leaving it hidden. 

 

So, given that, Rafay stayed off any wagon and didn't discuss either way. Turned out to be scum. Lach stayed on Isoc but is confirmed via our Cop ( he still might think Brewers is town vender, but I would imagine if he was, he would of targeted me by now).  brewersalliance, SeaBeeGipson, Vgmmaster voted for Kevin. If we are going to believe the final scum decided to vote Kevin upon seeing town went against him. I would imagine it be one of the later votes. Meaning Scum is between these 3. Besides if your one of these people and your town, you can eliminate yourself and add me. 

 

Since I know I'm town, scum likely went onto the wagon near the end, so probally one of the last 3 votes. VGM hammered. SBG and lego. 

 

 

I'm going to throw this out here. If all roles are random, how likely is it scum gets a secondary Role. Like the N3 vig, fruit vender, or even the Roleblocker.....

The only reason why I mentioned it, looking at everything, Kevin was the Universal backup. Something more suited for town. If we all had equal oppertunity to grab roles, (Besides me), what are the chances?

 

I wasn't saying that you specifically killed Canik. What I was wondering is if maybe Rafay sent the kill and the third mafia member was in hiding. Just because you didn't do the kill yourself doesn't mean you weren't mafia. Of course, since then, Lego has claimed to have roleblocked Rafay, so that theory is out the window right now.

 

I'd agree with you that Lachiton is confirmed town and Isoc is as close to being town as they come without official confirmation. Everyone else is a complete crapshoot though.

 

For scum having a second role, I wouldn't say it's guaranteed, but I'd say there's a decent chance of it. Considering there's 8 roles and 11 townies, I'd say it's more likely for scum to have two power roles to balance it out a little bit, but hard to say.

 

so im thinking the last scum probably voted for KevinH to try to bus away from him.  

 

 iSocialism- pretty sure he is town.  Im guessing he killed rafay (if someone else did please claim it) and kevin fingered him so im 95% sure he is town

Canik- dead and was town

brewersalliance- said rafay was scum since d2 so either i worked to lynch and kill two of my scum partners or im town

legoboyvdlp- gave a town vibe to me for a few days now.  would be shocked if hes scum.  but hey if he doesnt die tonight, odds are hes scum

SeaBeeGipson- very quiet until we found scum but hes been super busy in RL so it might not be because he is scum.  Still a suspect tho

Vgmmaster- only voted for kevin after vgm was for sure going to be lynched.  And vgm told lego who to role block, which could have been a ploy to make sure vgm could land the kill on canik.  I think the late vote could have been an attempt for him to bus away from Kevin.  also he suggested if both me and rafay live the night i could be scum or something which i thought made zero sense

 

FoS Vgm

 

I didn't "tell" Lego to roleblock anyone specifically in the sense that he had to roleblock that person. In my mind, why not block the scum you know and let Canik track the third scum. That, or if you convince the scum that Rafay would be blocked, have Lego block someone else. A bit of a mindgame with the mafia if you will. There was a purpose there, even if it didn't pan out seemingly (of course, we still don't know if we have a night 3 vig technically).

 

And it's true that I was the final vote on Kevin. I won't hide that. I planned to vote at least, but I didn't forsee being quiet for almost a week. So while a lot of the talking was already done at that point, I still wanted my vote on record. Plus, it was better to hammer a vote just on the off chance both of Kevin's scum partners were already voting for him, although sitting at -1 would've been very risky for them.

 

[ooc] Guys I will be away on 6th and 7th with no internet access. Probably I will start posting from 8th onwards [/ooc]

Here are my thoughts on the remaining players:

iSoc - Confirmed town, no doubt about that.

Brewers- Like me he was also on the trail of Rafay. Quoted some posts on Rafay where he was siding with Kevin to bring out the connection. Unless that is a huge game ploy, he is town. I swear if he turns out scum, I will be extremely shocked but would congratulate him for game well played.
Lego - feels town to me, considering he had now blocked Rafay twice and didnt block Canik once. I mean without Canik, Kevin would have gotten away for sure.

SBG - inactive but feels town. He was also one of the first to point out Kevin's reasoning sounds too good to be true and he doesn't believe it. Also cast his doubts on Rafay who turned out scum.

Robert - Not sure about him yet. He stayed out of the first two lynches and theres the flavor text connection again which I am not sure whats the connection there. 50/50 on him.

VGM - Same as Robert, stayed off the first two lynches. Did vote for Kevin but at that point Kevin was already going to be lynched. Also curious that given the track record of his in recent games, he is still alive . Now that proves nothing, but still something to note. Also I remember him saying how he hates Kitkat's play style and Kitkat ended up dead.

For me its either Robert or VGM.

 

I'm just as confused as you guys that I'm still alive since I've died every night 1 since I've come back. After day 2 though, with Frigid's mistake and half the players roleclaiming, it makes sense that the mafia would focus on the power roles. I think day 2 may have thrown a wrench into their plans. With me being alive, this is just speculation of course, but I wonder if the mafia was going to use me as a scapegoat later in the game. Be all "how is vgm still alive? He always dies. Lynch him".

 

 

Also curious that given the track record of his in recent games, he is still alive . Now that proves nothing, but still something to note.

 

 

lol, this one is funny.

i mean, come on.

vgmmaster is the first ever winner of mafia in IRON, and he should have stayed alive till the end to win those.

 

 

First mafia game on record. Not the first IRON mafia game.

Unless I'm mistaken, I'm at -1. Might as well claim at this point, although let's be honest, I don't see where it'll do me much good. That said, I am a vanilla townie. No power role whatsoever. Unfortunately Canik is dead so he wouldn't be able to verify I went nowhere last night if he survived the night. But before I am lynched if we indeed go that route, a few thoughts:

 

Canik claimed near the end of day 3 that tracking me would be a good idea. I mentioned in my last post above that I could be a mafia scapegoat with them keeping me alive up until now. Only way to me that killing Canik over Lego makes sense if they're both indeed town. As if Canik did truly track me last night, he could verify me, but the mafia wouldn't want that as a mislynch of me could be easy to accomplish.

 

Lego scares the shit out of me. The thing that worries me with him is what if as the roleblocker, he's making up his claims. Maybe night one he truly blocked Robert. But nights 2 and 3 he only claimed to block Rafay. "Blocking" scum makes him look good by default. Then there's the buddying up with Canik who tracked him night 1. Lots of ways for Lego to appear town to various people. He's playing his cards really well, but if Lego makes it to LYLO and is still alive, I'd say he's your final scum right there. I'd also be EXTREMELY cautious if there's a night where there's no kill as I'd worry Lego would claim to block someone for a free lynch and then back out of it by saying scum tricked him by not submitting a kill.

 

Also, if I was scum, truth is, I'd want to NK'd either Warrior or Brewers first. The latter a known veteran player and I've gotten the impression Brewers is good at what he does as well.

 

And besides, can I really be scum two games in a row? It's not like I'm the new SBG.

But for now, I need to go to bed before work. Here's hoping you all don't mislynch me by the time I wake up / come home from work.

Vote Count:

 

Vgmmaster (3): legoboyvdlp, iSocialism, Robert2424

iSocialism (0):

SeaBeeGipson (0):

Lachiton (0):

legoboyvdlp (0):

Robert2424 (0):

Brewersalliance (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: brewersalliance, SeaBeeGipson, Vgmmaster, Lachiton

 

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch or 3 at deadline.

Deadline is 11th February 2018, at 10 am GMT.

Indeed you are at l-1. And I agree, if Lego is scum he'd be in the position out of all of us to win as scum.

 

 

Not Voting: brewersalliance, SeaBeeGipson, Vgmmaster, Lachiton

 

 

So if VGM isnt scum, my guess is scum has already voted on him.  I dont think SBG is scum, and Lach is confirmed town, and I know my role.  

 

I do still think VGM is the most likely to be scum, but I dont want to end the day early.  ill go thru all the posts and see if anything jumps out at me after i finished snow removal  

There is no need to end the day yet unless we can't possibly gain anything from prolonging the day. It's not like it hurting the town by having longer days.

agreed.  we need to get as much info as possible 

Ooc question, vgm, you played the first ever game of mafia?

while Lego could be scum, I do not think he is.  Canik confirmed him as role blocker n1, so if he was a scum rb, he would have clearly blocked Canik, since a tracker is a very powerful role and could find who the scum is (as it did).  Lego did push for a lynch of isoc very hard, but there is almost no way the scum would have not role blocked the tracker.  if he is the rb and chose not to, that would be a major major risk.

 

i dont think robert is scum, because there was still a scum kill last night.  lego Rb'd rafay which means he could not have done the scum kill, and robert was fast asleep in the flavor text, which leads me to think he did not do any action

 

Lach is confirmed town and I know I am town, and Isoc killed rafay 

 

meaning our two suspects are

 

VGM and SBG

 

everyone is already voting VGM so

 

VOTE SBG

How do we know you are town?

 

Back to full steam once my AC adapter arrives Monday... I dislike typing on tablets

 

Anyway, that is fairly sound... I really want to hear from SBG again.

 

My main problem with vgm is him throwing shade on Robert, in contrast to the flavor text.

 

Also, may I suggest the fruit vendor hit Robert, causing him to be drugged asleep?

 

 

Also, may I suggest the fruit vendor hit Robert, causing him to be drugged asleep?

 

it said that SBG was found with drugs again so the vendor probably visited SBG 

Ok

Ooc question, vgm, you played the first ever game of mafia?

 

 

while Lego could be scum, I do not think he is.  Canik confirmed him as role blocker n1, so if he was a scum rb, he would have clearly blocked Canik, since a tracker is a very powerful role and could find who the scum is (as it did).  Lego did push for a lynch of isoc very hard, but there is almost no way the scum would have not role blocked the tracker.  if he is the rb and chose not to, that would be a major major risk.

 

While the tracker can find scum, there's a few holes in your thinking.

 

I was under the impression that Canik trusted Lego. Trust can go a long way in a mafia game. If Lego blocked Canik, that trust could go away and Canik would have to ask himself why Lego blocked him. Makes sense to me for Lego to block anybody except Canik, even if there are scum with power roles. While the tracker got lucky in nailing Kevin watching Frigid, there's no guarantee that Kevin killed Frigid himself.

 

Just throwing this out there. If Canik is mafia, what if he has done all the killing? The one night Kevin uses his one shot role he was caught, which would be unfortunate for scum. They just had to keep their non power role in hiding which didn't work as Isoc popped off Rafay last night.

 

How do we know you are town?

 

Back to full steam once my AC adapter arrives Monday... I dislike typing on tablets

 

Anyway, that is fairly sound... I really want to hear from SBG again.

 

My main problem with vgm is him throwing shade on Robert, in contrast to the flavor text.

 

Also, may I suggest the fruit vendor hit Robert, causing him to be drugged asleep?

 

Yes, it may have contradicted the flavor text, but can we truly take the flavor text at face value? MK wouldn't make it that easy to clear somebody, would he? And even if we can take it at face value, my thinking was that even if Robert was sleeping, it didn't mean he couldn't be scum and Rafay sent in the kill. Of course, that was before you mentioned blocking Rafay.

Ooc question, vgm, you played the first ever game of mafia?

Quoted in my last post and forgot to answer.

 

If you mean first mafia game on IRON, I did not. I played the first on record, but there's at least one or two that were not on record if memory serves.

 

If you mean first mafia game ever, refer to my past point as that would be impossible.

 

If you mean the console / PC game mafia that had a third game in the series come out last year, I did play it. Can't recall if I ever finished it though as I was borrowing it from a friend. And the cars drove really slow.

so 12 hours to deadline.  VGM is L-1 and would be lynched at deadline if no votes change.  

Vote SBG

 

Might as well give people a second option before deadline and I know I'm not scum.

based on the flavor text saying robert was fast asleep at night while the murder takes place means the suspects are vgm, sbg or lego (tho id be shocked if lego is scum and id say well played)

Well looks like vgm was lynched

Vote Count:

 

Vgmmaster (3): legoboyvdlp, iSocialism, Robert2424

SeaBeeGipson (2): brewersalliance, vgmmaster

iSocialism (0):

Lachiton (0):

legoboyvdlp (0):

Robert2424 (0):

Brewersalliance (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not Voting: SeaBeeGipson, Lachiton

 

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch or 3 at deadline.

Deadline is 11th February 2018, at 10 am GMT.

Vote Count

 

Vgmmaster (3): legoboyvdlp, iSocialism, Robert2424

 

After multiple kills last night, Ninok starts to grow suspicious of its own citizens.

One of the citizen's actions seems very suspicious like he was hiding something.

Soon a mob formed near vgmmaster's house and when one of them entered inside, they found that vgmmaster had shot himself and wrote a letter revealing him to be the last of the Mafia.

 

Vgmmaster, Mafia goon, committed suicide on Day 4.

 

Town Wins

Yes!!!!! We win!!!

In honor of all of the living players, I will give free drugs to Lachiton, Lego, Robert, SBg and iSoc, and then a free batch to the families of our dearly departed townies

In honor of Ninok's mayor who selflessly sacrificed himself (and TW) to stop the murders of Ninok the city was finally renamed to Canik. 

​
 

Good job town!

All I can say is that my whole story *could* have been true.

I mean you even had me convinced at some points. Also I was the only player to successfully have my hands in the elimination of all the scum, so go iSoc. Also, town win with a d1 lynch.

Yes!!!!! We win!!!

In honor of all of the living players, I will give free drugs to Lachiton, Lego, Robert, SBg and iSoc, and then a free batch to the families of our dearly departed townies

ANNNDDDD I was right when I said you're the fruit vendor errr... I mean drug dealer

 

Nice work town!!  Shame I got busy and couldn't come here to hammer vgm as I knew its either him or Robert, with me leaning more towards him. Kevin's lynch was the turning point of the game, his story was the perfect one but town voted with their fingers crossed. That is why never EVER end the day early, even if you're convinced that you got scum.

Also to vgmmaster scary proposition isn't it? You survive few nights and doubts will creep into people's mind that you're scum.

 

Oh btw there was no n3 vig. I was the vengeful townie.

 

@ Kevin - your story was great, had me worried till the end but I couldn't ignore the track and all that. We were lucky I tracked you in specific because I didn't have a real solid reason to. Just got a little bad vibes from when you switched off TW and back to iSoc when before we'd been on the same page so much and iSoc wasn't a very realistic option. But I had bad vibes from others who were off the TW/Canik wagons too, bounced around a bit between them before deciding to go with tracking you. Could've been Robert, VGM, SBG instead.

​Good job to VGM too I was wary of you the entire game but generally leaned towards you being town. I tracked Robert the last night because of that.

​Rafay, as much as your quietness is loathed it did get you rather far. Not bad. Your supporting KevinH at the end might've worked had I not tracked him. Since I did tho that backfired big time. xD