You are Clarice Starling.  Each night the one serial killer will work with you to help you find a kidnaped woman and another serial killer .

 

You win if you catch the killer before its too late 

 

You lose if it rubs the lotion on its skin

lmao brewers. JK I take it?

 

 

We should analyze all previous posts mentioning hostility towards these three. We can find a lead somewhere.

​For that same reason scum will sometimes try to only lynch people they haven't had hostilities with. Looking for leads can still be good, just sayin', stay wary of the others too.

​Also we should try to consider who has the personality of not messing around and going right after big guns like TW/AbT. At least one scum must be a veteran player here at the IRON forums and someone who isn't much of a jokester, they want to win.

 

We should analyze all previous posts mentioning hostility towards these three. We can find a lead somewhere.

​For that same reason scum will sometimes try to only lynch people they haven't had hostilities with. Looking for leads can still be good, just sayin', stay wary of the others too.​Also we should try to consider who has the personality of not messing around and going right after big guns like TW/AbT. At least one scum must be a veteran player here at the IRON forums and someone who isn't much of a jokester, they want to win.

I’m confused by why you say the scum vet, if there is one, isn’t a jokester. As I stated earlier, SBG has frequently been scum, but he often used humor. I’m not fingering anyone atm, I’m just wondering why you are thinking this.

You're no Vader. You're just a child in a mask. -Supreme Leader Snoke

Vote count:

Legoboyvdlp (1): Kitkat16,
Jazzy95 (0):
SeaBeeGipson (0):
Kitkat16 (0):  
Lord MK (0):
Rafay (0):
iSocialism (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Samus (0):  
Lachiton (0):
Chaplain of Death (0):
Sister Midnight (0):
Canik (0):
Rhizoctonia (0):  
Brewersalliance (0):
Imran Ehsan (0):
LordSunday (0):
Yehom (0):

No Lynch (0): 

Not voting: Chaplain of Death, Jazzy95, Brewersalliance, SeaBeeGipson, Rhizoctonia, Legoboyvdlp, iSocialism, Lord MK, Rafay, Lachiton, Sister Midnight, Imran Ehsan, Samus, Robert2424, Yehom, Canik, LordSunday,

 

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch, or 5 at deadline.
Deadline is Monday, January 29 at 12:00 EST

 

Fwiw, my vote is staying right where it is. I urge you all to actually consider what I said.

 

 

We should analyze all previous posts mentioning hostility towards these three. We can find a lead somewhere.

​For that same reason scum will sometimes try to only lynch people they haven't had hostilities with. Looking for leads can still be good, just sayin', stay wary of the others too.​Also we should try to consider who has the personality of not messing around and going right after big guns like TW/AbT. At least one scum must be a veteran player here at the IRON forums and someone who isn't much of a jokester, they want to win.

I’m confused by why you say the scum vet, if there is one, isn’t a jokester. As I stated earlier, SBG has frequently been scum, but he often used humor. I’m not fingering anyone atm, I’m just wondering why you are thinking this.

 

​He only appears to be a jokester. Really he's very ambitious, moving up the ranks, preparing to coup The Warrior. He just uses humor to disarm his enemies and gain allies but underneath it's all very serious business. 

Why would he?

Assuming the SK knew nothing of multiple factions, the SK would only know that 1 death would occur tonight. A 2nd death would instantly draw attention to another faction existing, and the SK would've outed himself early on. The hunt for the SK begins and now people are evaluating posts to see "does that sound like something a SK would say?" instead of "Does that sound something a mafia/town would say?"

 

I've never seen an SK act on N1 and that is where my assumption is coming from. Whether previous games had modifiers denying this or the SK themselves did not act N1 to avoid attention is probably another factor. I'd rather believe an SK exists and be on the lookout than to think it was a situation like a weak modifier and overlook a SK, but I just haven't seen an SK act on N1. That is my only reasoning for my post. It drew my attention to see everyone instantly jump on it being an SK and overlooking other possibilities like a weak modifier, lover connections (cupid role), etc.

 

I dont think I have ever played as a SK, but I would think the SK would want to use his kill ability as often as possible to cut down town power roles as much as possible and to kill mafia as well, as his only chance of winning is when he can no longer be lynched by others.

ps: I dont think the 3rd death was due to the cupid. If the cupid is killed N1, he was killed before he could use his ability on anyone, although this is something that kevin can clarify.

 

@MOD: If a power role is killed, will his night action go through or not, i.e. does killing a power role mean he got killed before he could use his ability or is he killed after using his ability.

 

 

At least one scum must be a veteran player here at the IRON forums and someone who isn't much of a jokester, they want to win.

This 

 

Also I'm not so sure if a SK would be in play as there already seem to be more than one anti town faction with TW being revealed as a Retired Werewolf Hunter. 4 different factions seem a little bit much, even in a game with about 20 players. As these bigger games seem to usually be very PR heavy, my guess is that, also seeing the more unusual roles that the 3 people that were killed had, mafia/werewolves targeted someone who can kill anyone that visits them during night. I remember that such a role existed when I browsed the mafia wiki site months ago, but can't remember what it's called. That to me makes more sense than throwing in another faction, but we'll have to wait and see if that theory is correct. As of right now I think it's safe to say that nobody is VT

Yeah I can't say I understand the random role claim from Lego....

 

Vote Lego

 

Your reasoning thus far has been very thin. If the entirety of your reasoning is just that you felt like giving scum a target, there's one problem there, with your role being so irrelevant unless another role claims, they can just leave you alive since you are by no means a confirmed townie, and that gives them a smaller pool of townies from which to try to kill the more important power roles. Plus leaving you alive is basically just bait for someone to role claim for a refill to get them killed.

I played as an SK once, it was my first ever time playing a mafia game.  I killed N1 and got caught, I think by Imran following me.  Haven't seen a SK used very much in the games I've played so not sure what most choose to do.  I can see both sides of why not to kill or to kill N1, I personally still think as an SK I'd still kill N1 merely to narrow down the numbers of players, as you simply are on your own.  Not sure revealing there's a SK really hurts an SK, as being neutral to either side, you wouldn't mind helping/seeing scum lynched during the day, and very easily can hide within town actively scum hunting.  

I think you guys are missing a possibility. However small there a chance, that the SK has a bonus kill that he kills anybody visiting his target as well. Think about it. What if one of the town targeted vgm, werewolf/sk attacks vgm. Kills both. I think it strong man or something to do with werewolf. Since Ali was a JOAT, what if he targeted vgm with one of his many powers. Maybe tracking, watcher, cop. I think this may explain the 3 deaths. I've used it on a game I've modded in the past. Except my role was a spacial 1 shot ability.

There's definitely more than one faction at play here and most likely an SK is involved. Anyone who says otherwise is probably SK himself..... 

@MOD: If a power role is killed, will his night action go through or not, i.e. does killing a power role mean he got killed before he could use his ability or is he killed after using his ability.

 

"Killing doesn't stop the actions of the dead player" Read about it on the Natural Action Resolution page.

Um we already know that there are definitely three factions at minimum. 

It's not confirmed we have a SK, though it is likely.  

"The galaxy may need a legend. I need someone to show me my place in all this." -Rey

Vote count:

Legoboyvdlp (2): Kitkat16, Chaplain of Death,
Jazzy95 (0):
SeaBeeGipson (0):
Kitkat16 (0):  
Lord MK (0):
Rafay (0):
iSocialism (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Samus (0):  
Lachiton (0):
Chaplain of Death (0):
Sister Midnight (0):
Canik (0):
Rhizoctonia (0):  
Brewersalliance (0):
Imran Ehsan (0):
LordSunday (0):
Yehom (0):

No Lynch (0): 

Not voting: Jazzy95, Brewersalliance, SeaBeeGipson, Rhizoctonia, Legoboyvdlp, iSocialism, Lord MK, Rafay, Lachiton, Sister Midnight, Imran Ehsan, Samus, Robert2424, Yehom, Canik, LordSunday,

 

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch, or 5 at deadline.
Deadline is Monday, January 29 at 12:00 EST

 

2 scum factions + SK seems like a bit of overkill to me. It's tough to reconcile that, however, with the fact that 3 people did die last night. I'd really like to hear KevinH explain if cupid could be the cause of this?

 

Whoops I see it now. So if I'm reading that right.. Cupid could be the cause of it? If that's the case then Cupid probably was the cause and 1 scum faction + SK.

"I will never train another generation of Jedi. I came to this island to die." -Luke Skywalker

Explanations of any revealed roles are found at Greater Idea Mafia/Role PMs

Vote count:

Legoboyvdlp (2): Kitkat16, Chaplain of Death,
Jazzy95 (0):
SeaBeeGipson (0):
Kitkat16 (0):  
Lord MK (0):
Rafay (0):
iSocialism (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Samus (0):  
Lachiton (0):
Chaplain of Death (0):
Sister Midnight (0):
Canik (0):
Rhizoctonia (0):  
Brewersalliance (0):
Imran Ehsan (0):
LordSunday (0):
Yehom (0):

No Lynch (0): 

Not voting: Jazzy95, Brewersalliance, SeaBeeGipson, Rhizoctonia, Legoboyvdlp, iSocialism, Lord MK, Rafay, Lachiton, Sister Midnight, Imran Ehsan, Samus, Robert2424, Yehom, Canik, LordSunday,

 

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch, or 5 at deadline.
Deadline is Monday, January 29 at 12:00 EST

 

@MOD: If a power role is killed, will his night action go through or not, i.e. does killing a power role mean he got killed before he could use his ability or is he killed after using his ability.

 

"Killing doesn't stop the actions of the dead player" Read about it on the Natural Action Resolution page.

 

 

OK then. 

 

So that opens up the possibility of cupid causing the 3rd death. It cupid was the cause, it would be something like this:

 

VGM targets say ABT

Mafia buddy of VGM kills TW

Werewolf factions kills VGM

which results in ABT dying as well.

 

So no SK in above scenario.

considering what my role is, I am 90% sure there is a sk

 

(and no my role is not the sk lol)

 

if there is no SK then that will mean brewers is lying.

 

Vote: brewersalliance

 

please do elaborate since you came out and claimed a role related to SK. 

Actually going through the Cupid role again, I am gonna update my above proposed scenario.

 

As per the Role PM link given by Kevin

 

• Cupid: During Night 1, you may PM me the name of another player. Every player that targets this player (except you) will become Lovers with them.

 

So the updated scenario will be something like this in case of 3rd death due to cupid:

 

Lets say vgm targetted TW at night

ABT uses one of his JOAT roles on TW

Mafia buddy of vgm kills TW

which results in ABT dying as well

Werewolf faction kills vgm

However in this scenario it doesnt make sense why mafia buddy of vgm will kill TW on N1 instead of waiting for a few more nights.

 

hmm.

I think it went more like this.

 

VGM targeted TW. (Could of been Ali, but if I was VGM I'd of chosen TW.).

Mafia kills ali.

Werewolf kills VGM.

TW dies due to be newly lover of VGM.

 

Werewolf is the SK. We can only guess what Ali did. I don't think he'd use a kill ability n1, that makes no sense.

 

 

if there is no SK then that will mean brewers is lying.   Vote: brewersalliance   please do elaborate since you came out and claimed a role related to SK. 

 

 

 

well lets just say I would love it if the SK decided to attack me, since it would then just be a total waste of his action for that night!

so please, Mr or Mrs SK, please assume im lying and attack me tonight

also:  I only said 90% sure, meaning if there ends up not being an SK, the role which I was given will be completly pointless.  So I am assuming there is most likely a sk while acknowledging the fact that KH could be using the role as a red herring to make me think there is a sk to add another wrinkle to the game, when in fact i would just be a vanilla townie,

also, I feel the mafia would have tried to wait longer to get more kills out of the cupid,

 

so I am guessing it went more like this

 

the SK/WW kills VGM

Mafia kills TW

the sk/WW kills Ali

 

I am guessing there is both a mafia faction and ww faction and an sk that is either immune to the mafia kills or the ww kills 

my reasoning for thinking the mafia only got one kill is that TW could not target Ali, so the cupid would have to have targeted TW for a double kill, and then Ali would have had to target TW, and if any other player would have targeted TW they would have become lovers and died.    I think its far more likely that a WW Faction, a Mafia Faction, and SK exist