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[ccabal86]

Margaret Atwood makes a brilliant case here. It's exqactly what my concerns are anyway

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/am-i-a-bad-feminist/article37591823/

Especially worth quoting:

The #MeToo moment is a symptom of a broken legal system. All too frequently, women and other sexual-abuse complainants couldn't get a fair hearing through institutions – including corporate structures – so they used a new tool: the internet. Stars fell from the skies. This has been very effective, and has been seen as a massive wake-up call. But what next? The legal system can be fixed, or our society could dispose of it. Institutions, corporations and workplaces can houseclean, or they can expect more stars to fall, and also a lot of asteroids.

If the legal system is bypassed because it is seen as ineffectual, what will take its place? Who will be the new power brokers? It won't be the Bad Feminists like me. We are acceptable neither to Right nor to Left. In times of extremes, extremists win. Their ideology becomes a religion, anyone who doesn't puppet their views is seen as an apostate, a heretic or a traitor, and moderates in the middle are annihilated. Fiction writers are particularly suspect because they write about human beings, and people are morally ambiguous. The aim of ideology is to eliminate ambiguity.

[Lysistrata]

I'm trying to think of a possible way to respond to this that would nudge Electric Mango to come in and except our trade offers.

[ccabal86]

Haha, let me know if you figure something out!

[onbekende]

isn't news that being black&white on any topic is a bad idea.

[ccabal86]

And yet, it seems to be lost an an astonishing number of people. Most, actually.

[brewersalliance]

Don't get me wrong, Sexual assault is terrible and is no way okay, but this whole movement bothers me.  Why did this movement take off?  because it had celebrity backing. Im sure all of these celebs who are pushing it have always been against sexual violence and assault, but they have been for the most part fairly silent for years, then all of a sudden it affects their fellow Hollywood people and now they are all acting like they care about all women.  Im sure they do, but lets just be honest... this entire "movement" is just virtue signaling and these people wanting to say "see?  I said #metoo, so that means im against these bad people and I am a good person"

 

 

If you are serious about it, go out and do something, dont just post a hash tag and make flavorful stump speeches at award ceremonious.  I would be willing to wager the vast majority of the #metoo supporters or people pushing the movement would keep on walking and act like they never saw it if they encountered someone being assaulted

[onbekende]

And yet, it seems to be lost an an astonishing number of people. Most, actually.

 

loudmouths =/= silent masses.

 

Case in point, I know of nobody who even typed #metoo. (think this is my second time I typed it!)

[Lysistrata]

The closest thing to a bull in a china shop is a New Yorker in the White House. It's all about Trump. This #metoo movement is designed to keep people angry and divided. Happy Democrats do not show up at the polls. Angry Democrats come out to vote in droves. The problem is... what happened to Weinstein was supposed to run uphill to Trump. Instead it ran downhill and blew up in their faces.

 

Now they are trying to change it into income inequality. Sorry, but Mark Wahlberg puts more butts in the seats than Michelle Williams, plus he probably has a better agent. If you don't like how much money you are making... the time to discuss that is when the contracts are being signed, not when the director needs to reshoot scenes so he can cut the real life child molester out of the film.

 

Can Democrats succeed in keeping everyone miserable when their lives are getting better by the day? I don't know for sure, but I doubt it. Maybe they should run Bradley Manning for the Senate? They can dress him up like a girl and try to make people believe he's a hero, and not a convicted traitor. Oh damn... that's exactly what they are doing. LMFAO

[ccabal86]

And yet, it seems to be lost an an astonishing number of people. Most, actually.

loudmouths =/= silent masses.

Case in point, I know of nobody who even typed #metoo. (think this is my second time I typed it!)

Maybe it’s time then not to be silent and let the loonies run the show for once. Not just in the case of #metoo

[onbekende]

 

 

And yet, it seems to be lost an an astonishing number of people. Most, actually.

loudmouths =/= silent masses.

Case in point, I know of nobody who even typed #metoo. (think this is my second time I typed it!)

Maybe it’s time then not to be silent and let the loonies run the show for once. Not just in the case of #metoo

 

effort

 

also no true effect on silent mass thusfar. People need an incentive to do stuff, doesn't has to be a "just" incentive thou