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[Rhizoctonia]

Also quotes so people don't necessarily have to look back.

 

Kevin claims to RB Isocialism N2

 

Ned knew it was time to see the Queen and tell her what he knew.  Everything was starting to come together. He walked up the steps to her tower in the Red Keep.  Jaime Lannister stood outside her door. “Im sorry Lord Stark, but you cannot enter, I wont allow it.

 

Goes with the idea Kevin is a Roleblocker, and his name is not what he claims, but in fact Jamie Lannister

 

Ned climbed the stairs of the Red Keep.  He knew he was so close to discovering all the parties involved in the murder of Jon Arryn.  Was it just Cersei, or was her brother Jamie involved the entire time?  Ned wondered.  He noticed Jamie's door was slightly cracked.  Inside he could see Jamie Lannister and another large figure. which Ned guessed was probably the Mountain.

 

"Its done Sir Jamie."  The Mountian said.  "I left no witnesses."

 

"Good.  That bastard could have challenged our King's claim on the throne.  We cant allow Joffrey to have his claim challenged."  Jamie responded.

 

 

This shows that Ned investigated Jamie.  Isocialism claimed to investigate Kevin last night, which we know is Jamie from the earlier quoted text from N2 of RBing Isocialism.  It also reveals he knows who both were part of the killing, which again goes with Isocialism's reveal he knows SM and Kevin are both scum by his cop results.

 

Isocialism's RC goes exactly with all that has been said in Brewers write up.  No clearer that they're the scum

[Rhizoctonia]

First of all, I almost forgot: OH NO!!! NOT SeaBeeGipson!

Second, I am not the Mountain and I am not scum. I don’t see anything in the flavor to suggest I’m The Mountain. The fact that isoc and Rhiz are so gong ho about me being scum makes me believe that they are scum.

Tell me Rhiz, what is your role claim?

 

 

You've been caught by the cop, and his results he got match 100% to not only what the text has revealed, but also goes hand and hand with Kevin's mention of RBing Isocialism N2.  It was Jamie who RB'd Ned, not Septa which Kevin claims.  Kevin is lying, which means he's scum.  This also reveals that Isocialism is a sane cop, as he got a positive scum result on Kevin, the same he got on you N1.  If he's right about 1, he's right about the other.  Again, as I've said, the story says Ned knows who both scum are, and what did Isocialism reveal today, the 2 remaining scum.

 

I'll take a cop result over some false RC any day of the week.  I can certainly RC if the other town want, I'm not because some scum wants me to.  I'm not the one coming up scum to a cop, you're.  

[Lord MK]

@Rhizo I thought 5 because I looked at the vote counter for rafay, not the actual people left, that's my bad. And I believe that its 30% of the players are scum? I don't actually fully remember, but I thought it was 30. That's why I said thsoe two things. Also I hammered him in because, this is my second game of mafia under IRON so I didn't remember that hitting the vote deadline would end the day early. On another note, it doesn't help that we need 4 votes to lynch, and we could potentially only have 3 townies left

That can't happen.

If there's only 3 town left, and the town doesn't have control of the vote, then town automatically loses.

Mafia have a win condition like this.
You win when mafia controls the vote or nothing can prevent that from happening and all other threats have been eliminated.

This is the standard win condition for scum in all normal mafia games. (The non normal ones are the King and guards one)
This is a normal game. So this is the win condition for them.

So if it's just 3 townies and 3 scum, town no longer have control of the vote, which is their most important power.
So i can safely say that there's just 2 scum left.

Now saying that, i have an exception to it, and that's the second part of the win condition, when all threats have been eliminated.
Now there may or may not be a sk, so it can also mean 3 scum, 1 sk and 2 townies are left.
Now i am pretty sure that iSoc is town, as noone is going to rat out their partners when they are in a winning position. There's absolutely no incentive for him to do a gamble now as scum could have won it blindfolded if they stay silent.
That too a double rat.
So that's one townie.
I am the next townie.
So 2 townies.
Now rhizo, if he was scum, he would get the whole team to pile on iSoc the moment the rc went on air. It's a first to the post vote system. So he would just get the game over with that instant.
So i am pretty sure that he's also scum.

So that means 3 townies, just proving that it can't be 3 scum, 1 sk and 2 scum.

So it's either 2 scum, 1 sk or 3 scum, 3 townies.
Now i don't think that there is a sk. As that sk would have been stupid not to make a single kill the whole game. Rafay was the only one doing non-scum killings this game.

So the current situation is 3 scum, 3 townies or 2 scum, 4 townies.
There's 2 confirmed mafia, and 3 confirmed town, and 1 kid (velocity)

So we are pretty much done here.

Velocity, please vote.

[Sister Midnight]

We rushed thru yesterday, why do you want to rush today? Is that good playing?

[Rhizoctonia]

We rushed thru yesterday, why do you want to rush today? Is that good playing?

Yesterday we didn't have concrete information of scum from a cop role. Today we do.

It's either you believe Isocialism RC or you don't. Obviously you or Kevin dont, you're the two who came up scum to a cop. There's a huge difference from yesterday to today. Today we have information that points to the last remaining scum, yesterday we didnt. But I don't care how long the day goes on, doesn't matter to me.

Also were the point where everyone who has posted today, most multiple times and no one has countered cop claim of Isocialism. If someone else was cop that would of been the first thing posted following Isocialism's RC and it didn't happen. Do you think in a game full of so many VT's town would not have a cop at the very least?

[iSocialism]

Well rhiz doesn't say he's the cop
Kevin doesn't say he's the cop
SM won't say who she is, but doesn't claim to the cop.

Anyone else claim to be the cop?
SM and Kevin both claim for me to be lying which would imply I'm scum, and someone else is my scum partner. Kevin or SM, clear to point fingers at the second scum?
If I'm truly lying who's the last one, Rhiz, Velocity, or MK?

We are at we mislynch we lose, but unless someone else is the cop, or think I'm not. It's a win win.

[Velocity]

This is an interesting predicament... I'm only going to role claim if absolutely needed, and for right now I'm leaving my vote on the table, because if we bring SM to three votes and she is innocent, by some off chance, the scum could just hammer her in and that's it because at that point we don't got much left, now would we? So as of now, I'm not role claiming at thos point, and I'm not voting yet. On another note, ouch, that hurts MK, that hurts man. "Theres 2 confirmed mafia, and 3 confirmed town, and 1 kid (velocity)." Like you aren't wrong but my fragile masculinity is at risk. JK about that last part, but just know that I am keeping my eyes out, not literally, hopefully, for what I think may be it.

[Sister Midnight]

Isoc May be an insane cop, which means he’s not lying, he just gets the wrong results with his investigations.

[iSocialism]

Okay then if that's the case, Kevin, yourself, and myself are town. Who are the other two scums?

Though, I know Kevin and you are the last scums let's enlighten that idea, who are you? What were your actions if any? Don't be afraid to claim since if we mislynch we lose, so don't avoid giving us information.

[Sister Midnight]

I am Sansa Stark vanilla town.

[Velocity]

Since this can't go any worse for anyone, let's add fuel to the fire, shall we? I am Lord Varys, ROLEBLOCKER. Remember where I hammered Rafay in? It said that Lord Varys provided them with important information, and that's what caused his execution. Make sense now eh? My actions as an RB?

N1: Block Wolfpacks
N2: Block Rafay
N3: Block Kevin

I had roleblocked Wolfpacks becauss there wasn't any better or worse choice to RB. I role blocked Rafay N2 because I was a little suspicious. I roleblocked Kevin because of one theory I had. Kevin has been the only one to vote on somebody's execution that has been called out, and both of them were innocent. If I roleblock him and nobody dies by mafia.... Then he obviously is one... otherwise he is my most likely guess, as stated above with the voting. Now that we have what iSoc said, it seems I may have been correct...
A little clarification on the reason that I did actually hammer Rafay in D2, now that we know I'm a RB. I role blocked him, but the same night somebody died who Rafay claimed he killed, and considering he was actually the vigilante it seems like he would've actually killed him, which means I must've been Roleblocked by another roleblocker on D2, which probably was Kevin, who is a scum RB and is lying about his blocks and name! It's all unfolding in the fourth day now, I see.

[Lord MK]

So roleblockers mania.

I think velocity is telling the truth.

Velocity, it's your vote.

I am either the hammer or i am not voting.

[brewersalliance]

Vote Count 4.01

iSocalism (0)

KevinH (0) 

Lord MK (0)

Rhizoctonia (0)

Sister Midnight (2)iSocialism, Rhizoctonia

Velocity (0)

 

Not Voting:  KevinH, Lord MK, Sister Midnight, Velocity

 

Currently in Danger of Mod kill:  KevinH-1 post

 

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch or 2 at deadline.

Deadline is Tuesday, November 29th and 9:00am CST

[Sister Midnight]

Wierd that is the second time that both isocialism and MK are very anxious to end things PREMATURELY. Experienced townies know this is a great way to lose the game. That is why scum always pushes for quick executions. You guys mark my words, if you lynch me, you will regret it. But look at who has vanished - KevinH (scum hide behind inactivity), and who is rushing the vote - isocialism, Rhiz, and MK. There are two murders lurking in there. Velocity, you were already chastised by Rhiz for being the early hammer, but now he wants a speedy execution.

VOTE RHIZO

[KevinH]

"I deny nothing." Beric Dondarrion stated. "It was me, I killed the queen, I stabbed her through the heart with my sword."

"The queen died from poison," Ned replied

"No you are mistaken, I killed her, the Lord of Light demanded it."

"Very well, We find you guilty. Bring me his head," Joffery said.

 

I believe Velocity blocked Rafay N2 and that it was a serial killer and the mafia that made the kills.

I think that iSocialism is the serial killer playing a gambit. He is guessing that Sister Midnight is scum and if that is true, then I'll be lynched because he guessed right.

 

Vote: iSocialism
 

[Rhizoctonia]

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7L2PVdrb_8

 

Only the following roles may exist in this game:

 

Cop, Doctor, Body guard, Vigilante, Jailor, Roleblocker, Watcher, Tracker, Mason, Vanilla, Godfather, Ninja, Strongman, Goon, Serial Killer, Jester, Lyncher.

 

Players:

1. Colonel Medved, Grand Maester Pycelle, Doctor Died D2
2. iSocalism
3. KevinH
4. Lachiton, King Robert Baratheon, Vanilla Townie Died N1
5. Lord MK
6. Rafay, Deric Dondarrion, Vigilante Died D3
7. Robert2424, Yorenm Vanilla Townie Died N1
8. Samus Rhizoctonia replaces Samus
9. SeaBeeGipson, Gendry, Vanilla Townie Died N3
10. Sister Midnight
11. The Warrior, Cersei, Mafia Godfater Died N2
12. Velocity 
13. Wolfpacks, Syrio Forel. Vanilla Townie, Died N2

Rules

• During the day phase each player may speak and vote in-thread.
• If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the day, they are lynched.
• At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched.
• If two players have reached half-majority and have the same number of votes, the player who reached that number of votes first will be lynched.
• You may NOT vote no lynch.  This is Game of Thrones.  Valar Morghulis
• If no player reaches a half majority by the deadline, the player with the highest vote count will be subject to a trial by combat.  The god's will determine his/her guilt or innocence. 
• After the day, the game goes to night.
• The game thread is closed during the night. Only mafia may speak to each other at night.
• All active roles may submit actions via PM at night.
• The mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at night.
• After the night, the game goes to day.
• All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.  
• Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
• The game is won when only one faction remains in the game.
• Mass role-claiming is not allowed, but you may reveal your role if you have something interesting to share.
• You may pm me questions or ask them in the game thread but you may not get an answer to some things.
• When voting, please enter your vote on a separate line of your post so that it isn't easily missed.

ACTIVE PARTICIPATION IS REQUIRED.

• ​All players are required to post a minimum 3 times per day.  Any player who does not meet the reuired post counts will be subject to a mod kill.  A mod kill will supersede a lynch.  If multiple players do not meet the requirement, the one with the lowest post count will be killed

 

A few more things...

• All roles are sane
• Cops will get investigative results on all roles unless they are investigative immune
• Mafia has day talk.

 

Links to important things

Day 1 Start Vote 1.01 Vote 1.02 Vote 1.03 Vote 1.04 Vote 1.05 D1 Results

Day 2 Start Vote 2.01 Vote 2.02 Vote 2.03 Vote 2.04 D2 Results

Day 3 Start Vote 3.01 Day 3 Results

Day 4 Start Vote 4.01

 

 

Ok, so to anyone still thinking SM is not scum, please look above.  Please read what I went ahead and highlighted in Red and made in big letters.  

 

All Roles Are Sane

 

That means, Isocialism cannot be a insane cop that SM wants to say is the reason for her coming up scum.

 

That means, with no one else claiming Cop to challenge Isocialism claim of Ned the Cop, and him being sane by the set rules at the beginning of the game, Isocialism found the last 2 scum.  

[Sister Midnight]

Then Isoc is a liar. And that makes me think he is indeed scum or an SK. I. Still very suspicious of Rhizo, but

UNVOTE

VOTE ISOCIALIM

[Sister Midnight]

Velocity, MK, Rhizo, Kevin, Isocialism, me.

There is a serial killer and at least one, maybe two scum.

Here is my breakdown:

Velocity, new to the game, very intelligent, could be scum, but I really don’t get a scum vibe from him. He may be hiding behind the likable, young newbie mask, but not high on my scum list at all. Not ruling out serial killer, but given how few sk kills there have been, not likely.

MK: would like to be the hammer and is rushing the vote. Is that because he is scum and wants a quick lynch? Is it because isoc, one of the most experienced and manipulative players, is a very talented liar and has convinced him I’m scum? Is it because he’s an sk and just wants to hammer me so he can get to his night kill? All are possible, but he’s not my top choice for scum or sk.

KevinH: reminded us of the lurking serial killer in Brewsky’s flavor post. That makes him an unlikely candidate for sk. Could still be scum, but not my top choice.

Rhizo: has done very little scum hunting until now. Criticized Velocity for prematurely hammering our Vig, then tries to hammer me prematurely. Classic scum move. High on my scum list.

Isocialism: lied about his investigation, claiming to have magically guessed ALL THREE scum and investigated them. He accused me of being scum from these magical investigations, and I’m innocent, which makes him lying scum or a lying serial killer. Given that he is a super player and completely avoided discussion of the serial killer flavor (which completely slipped by me, I read it and saw it as comedy, but I’m far from a top player, which is why scum seldom kills me), I’m inclined to think he’s done very little serial killing because he didn’t want to alert the town that there’s an sk on the loose, I’m guessing he’s our sk.

All I want I want is to lynch scum and serial killer. Since Kevin identified our SK, I’m keeping my vote on the Isoc.

[Velocity]

Hah, it seems like I get to be the nail in the coffin, so it's my fault for voting wrong, isn't it now eh? MK votes whatever I vote, it seems like he means, and the other 4 alive are 2 and 2 for votes, so what I decide is what I assume the lynch is going to be on. What still nags at me is that I stopped Rafay from killing on N2, but 2 people still died. That means either I was roleblocked by a scum roleblocker, or there is a sk on the loose. Ahaha, this is a very, very, interesting dilemma. I will make my decion when I'm ready, I have until the 29th, and here it is only the 24th, let's not rush it, that sound good?

[Rhizoctonia]

Velocity, MK, Rhizo, Kevin, Isocialism, me.

There is a serial killer and at least one, maybe two scum.

Here is my breakdown:

Velocity, new to the game, very intelligent, could be scum, but I really don’t get a scum vibe from him. He may be hiding behind the likable, young newbie mask, but not high on my scum list at all. Not ruling out serial killer, but given how few sk kills there have been, not likely.

MK: would like to be the hammer and is rushing the vote. Is that because he is scum and wants a quick lynch? Is it because isoc, one of the most experienced and manipulative players, is a very talented liar and has convinced him I’m scum? Is it because he’s an sk and just wants to hammer me so he can get to his night kill? All are possible, but he’s not my top choice for scum or sk.

KevinH: reminded us of the lurking serial killer in Brewsky’s flavor post. That makes him an unlikely candidate for sk. Could still be scum, but not my top choice.

Rhizo: has done very little scum hunting until now. Criticized Velocity for prematurely hammering our Vig, then tries to hammer me prematurely. Classic scum move. High on my scum list.

Isocialism: lied about his investigation, claiming to have magically guessed ALL THREE scum and investigated them. He accused me of being scum from these magical investigations, and I’m innocent, which makes him lying scum or a lying serial killer. Given that he is a super player and completely avoided discussion of the serial killer flavor (which completely slipped by me, I read it and saw it as comedy, but I’m far from a top player, which is why scum seldom kills me), I’m inclined to think he’s done very little serial killing because he didn’t want to alert the town that there’s an sk on the loose, I’m guessing he’s our sk.

All I want I want is to lynch scum and serial killer. Since Kevin identified our SK, I’m keeping my vote on the Isoc.

 

 

FYI, I brought forth the flavor of a possible SK, Kevin simply copied me.  Don't believe me, check one of first posts of the day.

 

Your whole defense is there's literally no Cop in this game.  In a game with some many VT's and very little PR's, you're suggesting there is no cop.  Lol, okie dokie.  You wanted to push that he's an insane cop until after I killed that possibility by what the game mod himself stated D1.  Now you're switching gears to suddenly there's no cop

 

I have already pointed to the flavor that shows Jamie Lannister was the one to block Rafay.  Kevin admits to the day he blocked Rafay N2, for which the flavor says Jamie told Ned he couldn't go in, not the name he claimed.  This in fact proves Kevin is lying about his name.  Scum.  

 

I also pointed out that Flavor suggest Ned starks know who was part of the last kill, which again makes sense because Isocialism had found you both to be scum.  

 

You can keep pushing I'm trying to rush a lynch all you want.  Fact of the matter the difference between what was known yesterday and known today is night and day difference.  You want to criticize me scum hunting?  Please quote all the scum hunting you've done this game.

 

This is as easy a lynch as any possible one.  You have 2 people who have been caught by a cop.  Their defense lies on the fact there is no cop in this game, which is absurd.  You have Kevin having his real character name exposed in the flavor, you have SM pushing the idea of insane cop over and over until I exposed there cannot be an insane cop, and now suddenly goes to well there is no Cop now, and Isocialism is merely lying.  

 

You also have Velocity claiming Town RB, the same role that Kevin is.  That should be the nail in the coffin that Kevin is lying he's a town RB, and not a scum RB.  So now to make their story possible, there's literally no cop, and 2 town RB's.  The rarity of 2 of the same town roles outside of VT's in same game literally hardly never happens.  So they believe a format like this has 2 town RB's and 0 cops.  No way.  Also given that one of the roles of scum was a godfather, that would make the godfather role pointless to even be in the game if there's no cop.