Zombie Infestation Mafia

 

Players:

1) Brewersalliance, a Vanilla Townie, was killed on night 2.

2) Colonel Medved, a Zombie, has been killed on night 6.

3) FrigidInferno, a zombie, has been mod-killed on day 6.

4) Jazzy95, a Vanilla Townie, was killed on night 4.

5) KevinH, a Zombie, has been killed on night 5.

6) Kverst

7) Lachiton, a Vanilla Townie, was lynched on day 1.

8) LordSunday, a Vanilla Townie, was lynched on day 2.

9) MWilson, a Town Cop, has been lynched on day 8.

10) Nadarr

11) PenguiNation, a Vanilla Townie, has been mod-killed for not voting on day 3.

12) Rafay, a Vanilla Townie, has been lynched on day 7.

13) Rhizoctonia

14) Robert2424, a Zombie, has been lynched on day 4.

15) SeaBeeGipson

16) Velocity, a Vanilla Townie, has been mod-killed on day 5 for failing to vote and having the fewest total posts.

17) Wolfpacks

 

 

Game Explanation:

 

In Infestation Mafia one player will begin the game as Patient Zero (the original person affected by the zombie gene) while everyone else begins as members of the town. Over the course of the game the zombie can infect (kill) members of the town at night. Successful kills by the zombie will infect previous townies and turn them into zombies.

 

 

Gameplay Mechanics:

 

Once a townie is infected by Patient Zero they will have no power other than being an 'undead' player associated with the zombie horde but hidden amongst the town. A player who has been converted should continue to act as if they are essentially a member of the town with daily voting abilities.

 

Zombies will NOT be made aware of all other zombies. Rather, they will be split into small zombie hordes for the purpose of communicating with one another on whom to try to lynch during the day. Zombies will become aware of Patient Zero's identity upon their infection, however. Only Patient Zero will know who all has been infected and will not be a part of a horde.

 

The only way to remove a player from the game is through lynching during daylight. A lynched player will receive the proverbial "double tap" and will be killed off. They will remain a member of whichever faction they were last a member of while alive (not necessarily the faction they started as) for game end purposes.

 

If Patient Zero is killed at any point during the game, a new Patient Zero will be randomly assigned to another zombie who will then become aware of all of the undead and assume the nightly killing role.

 

 

Game Roles:

 

• Patient Zero
• Zombie
• Cop
• Doctor
• Vigilante
• Universal Backup
• Vanilla Townie

 

• Various role modifiers may be in play.

 

Game Rules:

 

• During the Day phase, each player may speak and vote in thread.
• Whichever player receives the most votes during the day will be lynched.
• If two players have the same number of votes at deadline, the player who reached that number of votes first will be lynched.
• When voting, please post your vote on a separate line of your post.
• You MUST vote to lynch every day. Failure to cast a vote will result in a potential mod-kill.
• After the day, the game goes to night.
• The game thread is closed during the night.
• All active roles may submit actions via PM at night.
• Patient Zero can infect one player at night.
• An infected player will become a zombie and be assigned to a small zombie horde so that they are not aware of all zombies.
• After the night the game goes to day.
• All lynched players can no longer participate in the game.
• Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
• An individual player will be considered as a winner if their last faction affiliation wins the game.
• Mass role-claiming is not allowed, but you may reveal your role if you have something interesting to share.
• Active Participation Rule: All live players must  make a minimum of 3 posts in the game thread per game day AND have a vote cast for another player when a day ends. Any player who does not meet the 3 post minimum and cast a vote on a given day will be subject to being mod-killed unless a legitimate reason for the lack of posting is communicated privately to the game mod. If multiple players have not met the post minimum on a given day, the player with the fewest overall posts will be mod-killed.
• Game Days will last 5 days.
• Game Nights will last 24 hours.

Various role modifiers may be in play

 

This could mean that the cop listed is a role cop. There are modifiers in play. 

 

 

EDIT: Sorry didn't realize there was much more to read. I like Rhizo's reasoning. If TW has a tendency to specify cop type then I am willing to believe that PenguiN is lying on his RC.

 

Vote: PenguiNation

**Reminder** All players must cast a vote by the deadline on Sunday.

 

 

Vote Count

 

Colonel Medved (0):

FrigidInferno (0):

Jazzy95 (0):

KevinH (0):

Kverst (0):

MWilson (0):

Nadarr (0):

PenguiNation (4): Robert2424, Rhizoctonia, Colonel Medved, Nadarr

Rafay (0):

Rhizoctonia (0):

Robert2424 (6): SeaBeeGipson, MWilson, Rafay, KevinH, Kverst, Wolfpacks

SeaBeeGipson (0):

Velocity (0):

Wolfpacks (0):

 

 

Not Voting: FrigidInferno, Jazzy95, PenguiNation, Velocity

 

14 players are currently in game. All players MUST vote to lynch someone by day's end. The person with the highest vote count will be lynched at deadline. A lynch for two or more players tied for the highest vote count will come down to that individual's post count.

Deadline will be at 1:00pm CN Server time on Sunday, February 24th.

What if Penguin turns out a cop if we lynch him? Do we still lynch Robert or question the people who lynched PenguinNation?

 

If Penguin gets lynched then we know he was telling the truth and we go for Robert and if Rob turns out town then Penguin won't even survive the vig.

I'm with Rafay here.

There's more to lose by potentially lynching a {role} cop.

 

I can see where {role} is a modifier to cop.

There's no "mafia" in this game so the roles are up to a bit of interpretation anyway.

(I'm assuming a doctor protects against a zombie bite but it doesn't really say that anywhere)

 

I'm with Rafay here.

There's more to lose by potentially lynching a {role} cop.

 

I can see where {role} is a modifier to cop.

There's no "mafia" in this game so the roles are up to a bit of interpretation anyway.

(I'm assuming a doctor protects against a zombie bite but it doesn't really say that anywhere)

 

Goes to show there are a lot of unknowns.

 

Various role modifiers may be in play

 

This could mean that the cop listed is a role cop. There are modifiers in play. 

 

 

EDIT: Sorry didn't realize there was much more to read. I like Rhizo's reasoning. If TW has a tendency to specify cop type then I am willing to believe that PenguiN is lying on his RC.

 

Vote: PenguiNation

 

 

 

If you look at any game TW mods that he lists roles, he is consistent with what the modifiers possibly are, and specifically differentiates the different possible cop roles.  The fact he only listed cop as a possible role and no Role Cop means there is none.

 

 

Only the following roles may exist in this game:

Vanilla Townie, Bodyguard, Commuter, Cop, Day Cop, Role Cop, Vanilla Cop, Flavor Cop, Doctor, Framer, Friendly Neighbor, Follower, Gunsmith, Hider, Innocent Child, Jack of All Trades, Jailkeeper, Mafia Goon, Mafia Encryptor, Mafia Godfather, Mafia Ninja, Mafia Strongman, Mafia Traitor, Mason, Miller, Motion Detector, Naïve Cop, Neapolitan, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Nurse, Paranoid Cop, Roleblocker, Rolestopper, Serial Killer, Tailor, Tracker, Universal Backup, Vigilante, Voyeur, Watcher

 

The following modifiers may also exist in this game:

Ascetic, Backup (with or without primary role present), Bulletproof, Enabler (with or without primary role present), Even/Odd Night, Macho, Neighbor, Non-Consecutive Night, Various Sanities, Weak, X-Shot 

You look at any other game of TW's, zero have it as a modifier.  ZERO.  Every game he lists both Cop and Role cop separately as a role and not a modifier. The mere fact Kevin as a mod himself is not agreeing with this leads me to believe he very well could be a zombie.

My list as it stands

 

Pengu, Kevin, Kvrest

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Role_Modifiers

 

 

 

 

 

Yea, glad you knew I meant role and not flavor. Response Pengu?

 

No real response other than I know what i am and that I'm right. What reason would I have as a zombie to kill Robert in particular, exactly? I mean I at least see where all the suspicion is coming from but as Rafay and Mwilson had said, if I'm wrong(Which I'm not) lynch me tomorrow. Or vig shoot me. But trust me on this one

 

 

 

 

There's no role cop, you claimed role cop.  Period, end of story.  You're lying.

 

Also, there's very good reason why trying to push a mislynch helps you.

 

You force a mislynch today, scum turns another at night, we lynch you tomorrow, zombies turn another tomorrow night.  That's a 3 to 1 swing benefit to zombies, they turn 2 and mislynch 1, to killing only you off tomorrow.

I'd rather not kill a potential cop when Robert hasn't even claimed yet. 

 

 

 

 

^this one likely a scum partner

 

Doesn't want to see how there's no role cop possible in game, while also trying to push for Robert to RC knowing Peng is lying.  

Huh. I'll be honest, I didnt think of any of those possibilities in terms of the zombies. But i just want to say that it says role cop in my PM, even though I'm technically not supposed to quote those but apparently y'all arent satisfied with getting the main zombie. So lynch robert and murder me tonight if I'm wrong. Because that way you'd be taking down a "scum", which I'm not, and not wanting a lynch since let's be honest, this game was going nowhere fast until I roleclaimed.

Im still in the benefit of the doubt camp, I'm not wholly sure he's made a role read blunder and hasn't totally understood his role, for this reason I'm keeping my vote where it is, but I also need Robert to counter explain.

 

 

 

Yea, glad you knew I meant role and not flavor. Response Pengu?

No real response other than I know what i am and that I'm right. What reason would I have as a zombie to kill Robert in particular, exactly? I mean I at least see where all the suspicion is coming from but as Rafay and Mwilson had said, if I'm wrong(Which I'm not) lynch me tomorrow. Or vig shoot me. But trust me on this one

 

 

 

 

There's no role cop, you claimed role cop.  Period, end of story.  You're lying.

 

Also, there's very good reason why trying to push a mislynch helps you.

 

You force a mislynch today, scum turns another at night, we lynch you tomorrow, zombies turn another tomorrow night.  That's a 3 to 1 swing benefit to zombies, they turn 2 and mislynch 1, to killing only you off tomorrow.

I'd rather not kill a potential cop when Robert hasn't even claimed yet. 

 

 

 

^this one likely a scum partner

 

Doesn't want to see how there's no role cop possible in game, while also trying to push for Robert to RC knowing Peng is lying.  

Huh. I'll be honest, I didnt think of any of those possibilities in terms of the zombies. But i just want to say that it says role cop in my PM, even though I'm technically not supposed to quote those but apparently y'all arent satisfied with getting the main zombie. So lynch robert and murder me tonight if I'm wrong. Because that way you'd be taking down a "scum", which I'm not, and not wanting a lynch since let's be honest, this game was going nowhere fast until I roleclaimed.

 

 

 

Or...we lynch the liar, you.

 

Game Roles:

 

• Patient Zero
• Zombie
• Cop
• Doctor
• Vigilante
• Universal Backup
• Vanilla Townie

 

• Various role modifiers may be in play.

 

Town doesn't win simply by doing a 1 for 1 like any other mafia game.  This game you gain back(likely unless blocked by a doctor) a zombie every night.  We need lynches and vig kills to hit to actually win.  Saying we can just lynch you tomorrow or vig kill you tonight does not hurt mafia, you still gain a player to replace you tonight.  If we wait to lynch you tomorrow, you then gain a 3-1 benefit to zombies.  At best you're vig killed and the amount of zombies remain the same it is today, just with 2 less people in game.

Zombies will NOT be made aware of all other zombies. Rather, they will be split into small zombie hordes for the purpose of communicating with one another on whom to try to lynch during the day. Zombies will become aware of Patient Zero's identity upon their infection, however. Only Patient Zero will know who all has been infected and will not be a part of a hord

 

 

The only way, and I mean only way that you know he's P0 is because you were turned and told who patient 0 is and you're trying to buss him by throwing him under the buss.  There's no Role cop, so you're either a zombie pushing a mislynch, or you're a zombie who was told who is P0 and trying to push a lynch on him and then look town.  Then have our doctor protect you, knowing you're free to turn anyone you want without being stopped.

 

The fact you keep claiming Role Cop is completely false, I have proven this multiple times over based on what roles TW said was possible in this game, the fact TW separates both roles in any other game he list's possible roles, and Role Cop is not a modifier, not in any TW's game, and not by Mafia scum website.  You're either pushing a mislynch or you're bussing  your own P0 since a turned zombie is the only one who will know the identity of P0

Ok Rhizo you have persuaded me, I truly hope your right,

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE Penguin

 

Zombies will NOT be made aware of all other zombies. Rather, they will be split into small zombie hordes for the purpose of communicating with one another on whom to try to lynch during the day. Zombies will become aware of Patient Zero's identity upon their infection, however. Only Patient Zero will know who all has been infected and will not be a part of a hord

 

 

 

The only way, and I mean only way that you know he's P0 is because you were turned and told who patient 0 is and you're trying to buss him by throwing him under the buss.  There's no Role cop, so you're either a zombie pushing a mislynch, or you're a zombie who was told who is P0 and trying to push a lynch on him and then look town.  Then have our doctor protect you, knowing you're free to turn anyone you want without being stopped.

 

The fact you keep claiming Role Cop is completely false, I have proven this multiple times over based on what roles TW said was possible in this game, the fact TW separates both roles in any other game he list's possible roles, and Role Cop is not a modifier, not in any TW's game, and not by Mafia scum website.  You're either pushing a mislynch or you're bussing  your own P0 since a turned zombie is the only one who will know the identity of P0

Well that would be stupid and dickish, would it not? In this type of game I assume the zombies wouldnt want to rid one of their own since the real cop would investigate them and find them a zombie. Although I guess at that point it's just a matter of who do you trust more, and at this point its either trust a council member with long ass research posts or the cop who's trying to legitimately give you the zombies.

Perhaps an early roleclaim wasnt a good idea, since yuh know, I'll fucking die for it apparently. Willing to bet that even the vig'll kill me since you brought up the whole zombie getting rid of p0 thing, juuuuuust to make sure.

On that note, I'm pretty sure that's straight up not allowed? Or at least in small degrees, but not "Oh let's fuck our leader up" like that's legit fucked up. Although I guess zombies wouldnt care but still. I wouldnt do such a thing, promise.

I also kind of find the idea of using past games to influence this one quite funny

I'll trust Rhizo. 

 

vote Penguination

 

 

Sorry I'm still not convinced, there's still something weird with the whole RC that doesnt sit right

 

 

I also find it weird that he is willing to RC so early in the game. This puts an easy target on his back for scum, and wouldn't be the usual play of a real cop. It could also just be because he is new, and doesn't know better. Either way it isn't enough to convict him of being scum, but it does make him suspicious.

Because nothing was happening! An early roleclaim to get the game going, automatically protect me from the zombies and oust a zombie because as many people have pointed out, if we dont start killing them now we'll never be able to keep up.

 

 

True on the account nothing was going on prior to this. 

 

 

You have yet to answer what type of a cop you're

 

That's a good point Rhizo, i'm also curious to know. 

Apologies, I didnt see. After reconsulting my PM it reads "Role Cop"

 

 

right, needing help to make this Fake claim along the way I see. 

Im still in the benefit of the doubt camp, I'm not wholly sure he's made a role read blunder and hasn't totally understood his role, for this reason I'm keeping my vote where it is, but I also need Robert to counter explain.

I'm assuming you want to me counter claim. I'm not a Cop, if your thinking that. or least not yet, or changed yet. I'm a Universal Backup. I haven't been changed into another role yet, meaning that Zombies haven't hit a power townie, or there are multiple Universal Backups like I mentioned before, via my theory I'll quote.

 

I've have expected to change into a role right now, but haven't yet. 

I guess I have to assume they thought Brewers would be targeted by the zombies. An active player such as him would help. If he felt so confident, he/she was wrong or Brewers was protected and saved, if the latter happened, meaning we are in better shape then we thought, as I imagine a Doc role prevents infection, or at least some role has to right? Otherwise the Zombies numbers would stay the same every day if we did lynch a zombie, without something addional. So my bet is there are several backups. 

 

At this point I feel I'm just repeating myself so not likely to keep posting my argument.  I've already shown in multiple examples why there is no Role Cop in this game, from TW's past games modding in how he lists possible roles/modifiers, to Mafia scum website's of modifiers which have NO mention of difference's in types of cops as a modifiers, to TW stating at start the list of possible roles for which Role cop isn't one.  Let alone, for which I haven't brought up is the fact his other action is of Brewers, which is pretty easy to claim given he was the only one who wasn't killed by lynching for which we all know is town.  

 

One can blast me for bringing past games into it, this is not an example of well this person did this last game so they must be town or scum, what I brought forth is how someone mod's a game, and has over an extended period with many examples.  I'm also not a Councilor anymore, and I've presented irrefutable facts on my position.  My rank in IRON means absolutely nothing, for which I hold no ranking anymore to begin with.  This is merely someone whose played Mafia and pay attention enough to all that's given by Mod both at start of game and in flavor in some instances from experience.   

 

So people can vote how they want, but I will put my thoughts for tonight

 

If Pengu is lynched

 

-99.9% sure he will come up scum because he's lied about his role

-Real cop should investigate Robert to check him out in case he was bussing Robert, as the only one who should know who the P0 is, is Mod or a turned Zombie

 

If lynch Robert

 

-If he comes up town, no need to investigate Pengu, we know he's scum

-If he comes up Scum, real cop should investigate Pengu as he has to be bussing as there's no Role cop that would know Robert was P0

 

In all of this, Pengu I believe is 99.9% lying.  The question remains, is he fake roleclaiming to push a mislynch on a town, or is he fake roleclaiming as a zombie to buss P0 to look town.  That way he'll get protected by doctor allowing for free reign on any town without worry of being blocked by doctor, and he's also safe from any town Vig attacks.  The fact is, under listed roles there's no Role Cop, so if Robert is P0, then only way Pengu would know would be that he's a turned zombie.  

 

You'll can make your choice, but I atleast said my peace and tried to at my best explain why this can't possibly be a truthful RC.

The jury is still out on Robert at this time for me, for the fact there could be a buss going on by Pengu and Robert really is P0. 

At this point I feel I'm just repeating myself so not likely to keep posting my argument.  I've already shown in multiple examples why there is no Role Cop in this game, from TW's past games modding in how he lists possible roles/modifiers, to Mafia scum website's of modifiers which have NO mention of difference's in types of cops as a modifiers, to TW stating at start the list of possible roles for which Role cop isn't one.  Let alone, for which I haven't brought up is the fact his other action is of Brewers, which is pretty easy to claim given he was the only one who wasn't killed by lynching for which we all know is town.  

 

One can blast me for bringing past games into it, this is not an example of well this person did this last game so they must be town or scum, what I brought forth is how someone mod's a game, and has over an extended period with many examples.  I'm also not a Councilor anymore, and I've presented irrefutable facts on my position.  My rank in IRON means absolutely nothing, for which I hold no ranking anymore to begin with.  This is merely someone whose played Mafia and pay attention enough to all that's given by Mod both at start of game and in flavor in some instances from experience.   

 

So people can vote how they want, but I will put my thoughts for tonight

 

If Pengu is lynched

 

-99.9% sure he will come up scum because he's lied about his role

-Real cop should investigate Robert to check him out in case he was bussing Robert, as the only one who should know who the P0 is, is Mod or a turned Zombie

 

If lynch Robert

 

-If he comes up town, no need to investigate Pengu, we know he's scum

-If he comes up Scum, real cop should investigate Pengu as he has to be bussing as there's no Role cop that would know Robert was P0

 

In all of this, Pengu I believe is 99.9% lying.  The question remains, is he fake roleclaiming to push a mislynch on a town, or is he fake roleclaiming as a zombie to buss P0 to look town.  That way he'll get protected by doctor allowing for free reign on any town without worry of being blocked by doctor, and he's also safe from any town Vig attacks.  The fact is, under listed roles there's no Role Cop, so if Robert is P0, then only way Pengu would know would be that he's a turned zombie.  

 

You'll can make your choice, but I atleast said my peace and tried to at my best explain why this can't possibly be a truthful RC.

The jury is still out on Robert at this time for me, for the fact there could be a buss going on by Pengu and Robert really is P0. 

Honestly not much I say can stop me from being lynched at this point. Too many good points, although i know what I am and even hinted at it earlier in day 2. Either way I just gotta sit back and watch the cards unfold I suppose.

You also seem to forget that there's a third option, though i wont say what.

Anyways. Guess we'll see.

unvote

vote Pengu

I think Rhizo has to be right here. There's no way for you to know the identity of P0 unless you're him or you're a zomb

 

At this point I feel I'm just repeating myself so not likely to keep posting my argument.  I've already shown in multiple examples why there is no Role Cop in this game, from TW's past games modding in how he lists possible roles/modifiers, to Mafia scum website's of modifiers which have NO mention of difference's in types of cops as a modifiers, to TW stating at start the list of possible roles for which Role cop isn't one.  Let alone, for which I haven't brought up is the fact his other action is of Brewers, which is pretty easy to claim given he was the only one who wasn't killed by lynching for which we all know is town.  

 

One can blast me for bringing past games into it, this is not an example of well this person did this last game so they must be town or scum, what I brought forth is how someone mod's a game, and has over an extended period with many examples.  I'm also not a Councilor anymore, and I've presented irrefutable facts on my position.  My rank in IRON means absolutely nothing, for which I hold no ranking anymore to begin with.  This is merely someone whose played Mafia and pay attention enough to all that's given by Mod both at start of game and in flavor in some instances from experience.   

 

So people can vote how they want, but I will put my thoughts for tonight

 

If Pengu is lynched

 

-99.9% sure he will come up scum because he's lied about his role

-Real cop should investigate Robert to check him out in case he was bussing Robert, as the only one who should know who the P0 is, is Mod or a turned Zombie

 

If lynch Robert

 

-If he comes up town, no need to investigate Pengu, we know he's scum

-If he comes up Scum, real cop should investigate Pengu as he has to be bussing as there's no Role cop that would know Robert was P0

 

In all of this, Pengu I believe is 99.9% lying.  The question remains, is he fake roleclaiming to push a mislynch on a town, or is he fake roleclaiming as a zombie to buss P0 to look town.  That way he'll get protected by doctor allowing for free reign on any town without worry of being blocked by doctor, and he's also safe from any town Vig attacks.  The fact is, under listed roles there's no Role Cop, so if Robert is P0, then only way Pengu would know would be that he's a turned zombie.  

 

You'll can make your choice, but I atleast said my peace and tried to at my best explain why this can't possibly be a truthful RC.

The jury is still out on Robert at this time for me, for the fact there could be a buss going on by Pengu and Robert really is P0. 

Honestly not much I say can stop me from being lynched at this point. Too many good points, although i know what I am and even hinted at it earlier in day 2. Either way I just gotta sit back and watch the cards unfold I suppose.

You also seem to forget that there's a third option, though i wont say what.

Anyways. Guess we'll see.

 

Withdolding info? You've sealed your fate.

I think this game is so altered from a regular setup that role cop and cop might be interchangeable.

At the very least, I think Rhyzo gets lots of townie points for pushing the issue.

 

However, in one night the alignment can change.

 

My preferred course of action is to lynch who the claimed cops identify and then lynch the claimed cops if they give bad advice.

If we Lynch wrong our vig should shoot. It's not going to be either of us on the chopping block in any situation. Either we Lynch right and hope I'm not infected now before I can get a role or if I'm lynched our vig should shoot pangiun. There's no going around it. Why are people forgetting about the vig who shot Brewers?

 

 

I also kind of find the idea of using past games to influence this one quite funny

 

Indeed.

 

I hope the people voting against Penguin are correct, if not, they better start writing their explanations. 

I'll write mine now, I didn't like penguins RC he seem to be hiding it with a ie. with it, but even then I wasn't convinced until Rhizo kinda steered me in this direction, so I took notice of someone obviously more informed then i in this game.

so yeah, I feel people are taking the path of least resistance. Rhizo is the only one trying to think of all possible options while everybody else wants things to be super simple. This is a thinking game.