You forgot to tell me which one. Is thinking too hard for Democrats? Or do they just lie for politics?

 

 

Are you saying that I am a Democrat? I have voted for more Republicans than Democrats so if I am a Democrat I am doing a terrible job. Trump is a terrible person and president but you seem to disregard everything that proves that, but yeah other people are having a hard time thinking...

 

 

Nah, they just start a new Benghazi of emails investigation. How many are we up to yet?

 

 

Whoa man, don't bring up the 30 something Benghazi investigations that the Democrats didnt interfere with. It would be terrible if someone pointed out the constant meddling the Republicans did on the Mueller investigation and how they pretend to be the victims.

 

 

Whoa man, don't bring up the 30 something Benghazi investigations that the Democrats didnt interfere with.

I didn't even respond to that because Congressional oversight of why an American Ambassador and 3 others died in Libya, and no one lifted a finger to send help, doesn't even rise to the level of a President of the USA under false pretenses, turning the full force and power of the entire Department of Justice and the CIA on an opposing campaign. Congress was doing it's job, and I think a little bit less of you today because you obviously don't care about their lives. Doesn't it bother you at all that we still don't know who gave the order to not send help? It bothers me every time I think about it, and every time I watch the movie "13 Hours".

If there was wrong doing I am pretty sure 1 of those investigations would have shown it. Yeah what happened sucks, I knew one of the people who died there; We played the same MMO.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigation_into_the_2012_Benghazi_attack

I come to be the man in the middle. It sounds like we just need less government, and the good old tar and feathers back

 

I don't want to sound like a realist, but it sounds like you fellows need an actual ability to form a concensus beyond the D/R denominators.

 

 

 

Once again, opposition research is fine, you getting it from foreign nationals (regardless of these persons intentions) is unlawfull in the USA and should be mentioned to the FBI.

If that were true then Hillary Clinton would be in prison right now for paying 5 million dollars to a British spy who created a fake dossier based on phony information from the Russians. What is more stunning is John McCain leaking it to Buzzfeed, and the FBI presenting it to FISA Judges to obtain warrants to frame the entire campaign of Donald Trump. I'm still waiting patiently for those indictments.

 

The dossier started by Republican/Conservative effort but ditched when they found themselfes investigating their frontrunner? The dossier that thusfar has found compelling and verifiable truths behind various Russian related Trump-empire schemes? The dossier when presented after analysis of the FBI and various other US gov organisations to "the gang of 8" left them speechless and demoralized?

 

Yeah, thats a great starting point for a rebuttal, the thing that keeps being found accurate with each passing revelation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whoa man, don't bring up the 30 something Benghazi investigations that the Democrats didnt interfere with. It would be terrible if someone pointed out the constant meddling the Republicans did on the Mueller investigation and how they pretend to be the victims.

 

 

I shall not speak about the 8 hours of public testimony and interogation of a certain Clinton regarding such investigations...

It appears the report will be released in a couple of weeks. Trump is waving Execitive Privilege, so nothing will be redated from the White House. By law, nothing negative can be said in the released report about anyone that has not been indicted, so anyone searching for dirt on Trump or his kids will be sorely disappointed. This will only ramp up more lies. If William Barr was doing anything shady, Mueller would be singing like a canary in a coal mine.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-to-release-mueller-report-to-congress-by-mid-april-if-not-sooner-will-not-transmit-to-white-house-for-privilege-review

Nice

Trumps stance changes by the minute, best bet is to keep entire WH in the dark about it until the time of reveal.

 

As for Mueller, that guy us textbook lawfull, Barr could have even quoted a non-excisting line and he wouldn't say a word.

So now Barr is saying that the summary was actually a memo and Trump goes on an unhinged rant about releasing the report that he said to release. Also several Republicans said they will block the report from being released. The Republicans are doing a good job at looking guilty or something.

So now Barr is saying that the summary was actually a memo and Trump goes on an unhinged rant about releasing the report that he said to release. Also several Republicans said they will block the report from being released. The Republicans are doing a good job at looking guilty or something.

So that's what you call "unhinged"? That was very hinged. Democrats are demanding the release of an unredacted report... which they know they will never get. Plus they are demanding all underlying investigation material... that they know they will never get. Democrats are now demanding the Justice Department break the law so they can continue making noise over something that was a non-issue from the time they hatched this "insurance policy" against an elected President.

 

I wonder how things would have gone if Republicans demanded the full, unredacted report, and underlying investigation material, of that bogus Hillary Clinton investigation... you know that one where Comey came out and laid out all the reasons she should be thrown in prison, but "no reasonable prosecutor" would be able to make a case? That's when Hillary lost the election.

 

The Inspector General report from Michael Horowitz investigation into FISA abuse, leaks, and gifts from reporters to the FBI, will be completed within the next 90 days or so. All the guns will be turned on the highest levels of the Obama Administration that perpetrated this hoax. Maybe justice will finally be served. We shall see.

Claiming treason without any proof seems pretty unhinged to me, or maybe that is just par for the course of this presidency. In any case a lot of things are not adding up, lots of saying one thing then doing another thing, at best that is unprofessional at worst malicious. Either way they need to get their shit together and release the report or a proper summary to Congress, which is not only completely legal but standard practice.

 

They have had the time and claim that there is nothing they can prosecute on, the end game is here and the cards needs to be shown.

 

I am also really tired of this "the Democrats" stuff. If the GOP actually thought there was wrong doing then they need to open up their own investigations they own most the government and are crying about that crap shows that they either have no idea what they are doing or are practicing misdirection. Also I find it funny that Comey is the big bad guy when him announcing those Clinton emails got Trump the election.

Claiming treason without any proof seems pretty unhinged to me, or maybe that is just par for the course of this presidency.

Excuse me my friend... they have been accusing Trump of treason since he was elected.

I am also really tired of this "the Democrats" stuff. If the GOP actually thought there was wrong doing then they need to open up their own investigations they own most the government and are crying about that crap shows that they either have no idea what they are doing or are practicing misdirection. Also I find it funny that Comey is the big bad guy when him announcing those Clinton emails got Trump the election.

They had plenty of hearings, but Rosenstein obviously wouldn't do anything because he was part of it. If Trump made any move whatsoever, it would only have drawn more fire on obstruction. Now that the case is closed, they will aim at the perps... but we won't hear a thing about it until the Horowitz report comes down, and Barr presents the evidence to a Grand Jury. That's the way things are supposed to happen. They will start with McCabe... they already have a case on that guy... and it's going to hit Rosenstein, and Comey, and Ohr, and Page, and Strzok, and Yates, and Lynch, and Power, and Kerry, and Brennan, and Clapper, and Rice, and Jarrett, and finally... Obama.

 

They launched a fake investigation on a presidential candidate for the purpose of destroying him... just in case he actually won.

Please remind me which side the "deep state" is on, at this moment. Cause darn it switched sides so much, it should be renamed into the "whiplash state".

 

As for the Mueller report, the "gang of 8" is fully cleared to be read in on the whole thing, hence people being annoyed at any attempt at delay. Then again I don't think the WH minds security clearance all that much >_>.

 

And if you don't notice Trump being unhinged, I suggest an eye-exam, possible followed by orangejuice.

 

 

And if you don't notice Trump being unhinged, I suggest an eye-exam, possible followed by orangejuice.

I have the best ophthalmologist on the planet, and I do drink plenty of orange juice... in my champagne.

I suggest you pay more attention to Brexit... we'll take care of things over here.

 

 

Excuse me my friend... they have been accusing Trump of treason since he was elected.

 

 

I don't recall saying those people weren't unhinged. Tossing accusations without reason is stupid on its own but something as serious as treason that is not something that should be used as a scare tactic, which is what Trump is doing.

 

 

They launched a fake investigation on a presidential candidate for the purpose of destroying him... just in case he actually won.

Nothing about the investigation was unwarranted let alone fake.

Doubling Down... it's a gambling term. When you lose a bet, you keep doubling your action on the logic that eventually you will win and get all your losses back. I live in Las Vegas, so I am well educated in all aspects of gaming.

 

It looks like I will once again have a very hard time holding back on saying I told you so.

 

For the record... Howard Schultz held a town hall on Fox News yesterday. He declared very clearly that if the Democrats nominate a Socialist, Donald Trump will be reelected. I know exactly what he's saying.

 

 

For the record... Howard Schultz held a town hall on Fox News yesterday. He declared very clearly that if the Democrats nominate a Socialist, Donald Trump will be reelected. I know exactly what he's saying.

 

 

Its quite possible that people wouldnt want to vote for Sanders and will vote for Trump instead, thing is Schultz has every reason to say that to scare votes in his direction and he does not see the future. On a side note Schultz's town hall on a channel that has incredible bias against democrats while running as one is incredibly amusing

 

For the record... Howard Schultz held a town hall on Fox News yesterday. He declared very clearly that if the Democrats nominate a Socialist, Donald Trump will be reelected. I know exactly what he's saying.

 

 

Its quite possible that people wouldnt want to vote for Sanders and will vote for Trump instead, thing is Schultz has every reason to say that to scare votes in his direction and he does not see the future. On a side note Schultz's town hall on a channel that has incredible bias against democrats while running as one is incredibly amusing

 

Obvious you do not watch Fox News. If you watch Fox, and only watch Fox and Friends, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham, Greg Gutfeld, Jesse Watters, and Judge Janine Pirro… I can understand your declaration. But, their hard news is extremely balanced. Shepard Smith is a staunch Trump hater, and that's one hour out of the day I can't stand to watch, because it's an entire hour of negative Trump coverage. Tucker Carlson actually questioned if Trump really wants reelection last night. It's really the only place you will receive the entire story. I understand why you don't know about everything that has been done, and everyone that has done it. You can choose to do something about it, or not... they love keeping you where they want you.

 

Schultz would be running as an Independent, he is no longer a Democrat. Schultz did his town hall on Fox because his support will come from Democrats that can't vote for a Socialist or the Green New Deal, and Republicans who can't vote for Trump. Any other media organization will just crucify him for going against the Democrats and reelecting Trump. I would never vote for Schultz myself because he's a big government Progressive... he just happens to be a Capitalist one.

 

 

If you watch Fox, and only watch Fox and Friends, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham, Greg Gutfeld, Jesse Watters, and Judge Janine Pirro

 

 

so if you only watch most their commentators?

 

 

 

Schultz would be running as an Independent, he is no longer a Democrat.

 

That guy changes his mind a lot it seems.

 

And if you don't notice Trump being unhinged, I suggest an eye-exam, possible followed by orangejuice.

I have the best ophthalmologist on the planet, and I do drink plenty of orange juice... in my champagne.

I suggest you pay more attention to Brexit... we'll take care of things over here.

 

 

Brexit is doing fine from the EU side, it is mainly the DUP and various levels of Conservative commitment to which severity of Brexit proposed/desired that are the issues, both UK side. Offcourse i doubt that level of nuance reaches your side of the pond.

 

 

Also, "hard news" is obvious a small and indistinct subset of Fox News channels time and effort. Still humours me that they don't want to be classified a "news channel"

 

 

Brexit is doing fine from the EU side, it is mainly the DUP and various levels of Conservative commitment to which severity of Brexit proposed/desired that are the issues, both UK side. Offcourse i doubt that level of nuance reaches your side of the pond.

Brexit confuses the hell out of me. They have a vote, and it comes up to leave the EU. Then they take like 3 years fighting over how to leave. The vote was not a multiple choice... 1) Leave... 2) Leave, but not really leave... or 3) Let's have another vote.

 

The vote was to leave, so they should have immediately left. Now it's just a fight. There never should have ever been a fight.

 

 

Still humours me that they don't want to be classified a "news channel"

That's a lie buddy. There is a very strong line between hard news, and opinion/debate programming. It is after all, the FNC, which is the Fox News Channel. The only place where conservatives get a fair shake.

 

Brexit is doing fine from the EU side, it is mainly the DUP and various levels of Conservative commitment to which severity of Brexit proposed/desired that are the issues, both UK side. Offcourse i doubt that level of nuance reaches your side of the pond.

Brexit confuses the hell out of me. They have a vote, and it comes up to leave the EU. Then they take like 3 years fighting over how to leave. The vote was not a multiple choice... 1) Leave... 2) Leave, but not really leave... or 3) Let's have another vote.

 

The vote was to leave, so they should have immediately left. Now it's just a fight. There never should have ever been a fight.

 

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Indeed, it was Stay/Leave, nothing about what the "Leave" meant. Couple this with your population being on a spectrum of Stay/Stay.but/Meh/Leave.but/Leave coupled with more scaremongering on either side and you get a woefully bad start to something very complex.

 

The complexity was 2-fold, both how to get out (Leave) and how to proceed in future (Relation). The first part has been mostly checked and laid down. The issue is that there is a no majority on what that "Relation" part should look like AND the plurarity is a basic "stay/meh". This thus complicates in how much the UK will actually release itself from the various European institutions and services. Most glaring issue thou is Northern Ireland and the Good Friday Agreement, any "hard" brexit also means either tearing up that agreement (and then possible renewed "Troubles") or "soft" tearing away Northern Ireland from UK (as in, make it closer to the EU the the UK itself). Nobody wants #1 and #2 gets stopped by the DUP party in joined government with May's Conservatives (aka, the idiotic snap-election gamble).

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Still humours me that they don't want to be classified a "news channel"

That's a lie buddy. There is a very strong line between hard news, and opinion/debate programming. It is after all, the FNC, which is the Fox News Channel. The only place where conservatives get a fair shake.

 

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In part you are right that its like the sole conservative news channel, which means you guys have lost any semblance of diversity or different angles to a problem. Narrowmindness isn't good for an ideology, diversity (even if you loath the word from a sociatal meaning) is needed. Perhaps wonder why there are actually plural "liberal" news channels? Perhaps they do acknowledge that the world isn't a black & white world and nuance is ever present.

 

On the other hand, Sinclair?

 

 

The complexity was 2-fold, both how to get out (Leave) and how to proceed in future (Relation).

It's really quite easy. You leave, and then negotiate. Too many people afraid of working, or they got too comfortable, or both.

 

The complexity was 2-fold, both how to get out (Leave) and how to proceed in future (Relation).

It's really quite easy. You leave, and then negotiate. Too many people afraid of working, or they got too comfortable, or both.

 

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Well that was the original thought process, funnely enough not many actually wanted THAT kind of Leave >_>

And... it begins. As I said, all guns will be turned on the people that perpetrated this hoax. Barr has a team.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doj-watchdog-fbi-informant-in-russia-probe

 

The New York Times reported that Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz is looking into informant Stefan Halper’s work during the Russia probe, as well as his work with the FBI prior to the start of that probe.

 

During the 2016 campaign, Halper contacted several members of the Trump campaign, including former foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos and former aide Carter Page.

 

There was a spy sent into the Trump Campaign to infiltrate and create an appearance of shady dealings with Russians.

 

Horowitz, more broadly, is probing alleged wrongdoing related to the issuance of FISA warrants to surveil Page during the election. During a hearing on Capitol Hill on Tuesday, Attorney General Bill Barr testified that Horowitz’s investigation is expected to be complete by May or June.

 

Carter Page was not indicted. George Papadopoulos lied to the FBI about the contact with the spy, and served 12 days.

 

“More generally, I am reviewing the conduct of the investigation and trying to get my arms around all of the aspects of the counterintelligence investigation that was conducted in the summer of 2016,” Barr told the House Appropriations Committee on Tuesday.

 

Also on Tuesday, Fox News reported that Barr had assembled a “team” to investigate the origins of the bureau’s counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign.

 

Barr’s team will also review the FISA warrants issued against Carter Page. The issuance of the FISA warrants relied, in part, on the unverified anti-Trump dossier authored by ex-British Intelligence Agent Christopher Steele, who worked on behalf of Fusion GPS—a firm paid by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee through law firm Perkins Coie to do opposition research against the Trump campaign. In the dossier, Steele accused Page of conspiring with Russians. Page was not charged with any wrongdoing in either the FBI’s Russia probe or Mueller’s.

 

Yeah, that's what I'm talkin' about.

 

Also, House Intelligence Committee Ranking Member Devin Nunes, R-Calif., said over the weekend he was preparing to send eight criminal referrals to the Justice Department this week regarding alleged misconduct by DOJ and FBI officials during the Trump-Russia investigation.

 

When these people start facing real prison time... they will start turning on each other. This is all "On the Margins of the Mueller Report"

eeeeh, Halper was the FBI's counterintelligence operative, he FOUND stuff, now who's going on a fishing expedition to find DROPS?

 

And again, Fusion GPS was first hired by a conservative political website and only dropped when they figured they were betting against their prime candidate.

 

As for Page, he still isn't off the hook and don't even try to put "exonerated" on him >_>

 

Lastly, the Steele dossier track record is still either verified/true or unverified/not-proven, thusfar nothing has been disproven.