Does this mean that ANY former elections weren't legitimate?

No... but this was the first election ever held during a "pandemic" that created the sudden "urgency" to devise voting methods that made it extremely easy to cheat. Democrats favorite phrase... "Never let a good "crisis" go to waste".

 

I would be in favor of Photo ID, Fingerprinting, Retinal Scan, DNA Screening, and Execution for Voter Fraud.

That's how much I trust Democrats.

 

 

I think issuing every citizen an IDs is a very reasonable thing to do. BUT in this case, the process need to be free, accessible and mandatory.

 

It works well in Portugal apparently. I'm not against voter ID, but for it to be a requirement it should be the accepted norm to carry ID, and there should be cheap readily available government backed ID for those who can't carry a drivers licence but still able to vote and don't want to be lugging a passport around. I'm thinking something which can be issued in the $20 - £20 range. Essentially similar to a driving licence, name, pic, DOB and address. Would be great when you're newly 18 on a night out but not yet driving, or if you're disabled and unable to drive but need ID to do things like vote or open a bank account.  

 

I don't know what the system in Portugal is exactly, but in Hungary you have 3 options for identification - which is pretty much a requirement for any kind of administrative action from opening a bank account to voting.

 

- Passport

- Driver's license

- Citizen ID Card

 

It is mandatory for every citizen to have a Citizen ID Card, and you are obligated to carry one of the 3 on you at all times. They issue ID cards for a duration of about 5-10-15 years (depending on the age group), and it is completely free of charge. All one needs to do is to show up at a state administrative office and go through a 5 minute process. It's actually a system that works really well

 

 

Yeah... see in the UK we have no free forms of identification. 

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Does this mean that ANY former elections weren't legitimate?

No... but this was the first election ever held during a "pandemic" that created the sudden "urgency" to devise voting methods that made it extremely easy to cheat. Democrats favorite phrase... "Never let a good "crisis" go to waste".

 

I would be in favor of Photo ID, Fingerprinting, Retinal Scan, DNA Screening, and Execution for Voter Fraud.

That's how much I trust Democrats.

 

Nothing "new" or "fancy" was done, just expanded usage of non-election day voting options. Heck some states already do the exact type of voting-by-mail efforts long before the pandemic hit, clearly thus all those states are heavily Dem due to voting frauds no? Once again for all the babbling the R-side wishes to do on this, nothing actually turns up shockingly. Perhaps get Kris Kobach on it, again...

 

I gather the notion that the feeling is mutual

 

 

Nothing "new" or "fancy" was done

Well that's bullshit... we'll take care of our elections. You Europeans can continue to watch. 

You did take care of your elections, very smoothly if I might add even due to restrictions. Now just don't regress.

If anyone is interested why so many people believe our 2020 election was rigged, take 7 minutes, and listen.

This explains it all in beautiful detail, and why the 2022 midterms next year are most likely going see much different results.

 

Why So Many Trump Supporters Have Questions About 2020 Election & Distrust Of Mainstream Media - YouTube

So the 2016 story gets rattled off again, only ignoring the 4 years Trump had power of god to blow that wide open and you folks only got crickets. Let alone that seemingly the DOJ and others weren't under GOP control via Barr etc. And lets ignore Fox news not being a giant propaganda machine feeding on half-truths, fake outrage and seemingly ignoring that they happen to be the largest MSM out there while envoking outrage against said MSM boogeyman. Please just stop, it is just more conspiracy ramblings about some grand master plan that if it actually was even half true, I'd wonder why Texas hasn't been nuked yet to for certain kill of millions of GOP voters...

 

ooo, Hunter Biden's laptop. Does it still have a sticker of Clinton2020 on it?

 

 

Speaking of gaslighting, why does self-proclaimed wealthy billionair need yet again a fundraiser to host his 3-pronged 1st amendment court litigation? Perhaps cause he once again wants to pocket that money in his ever larger growing ponzi scheme that is the Trump Org.? Hilarious even when he is litigating against himself it seems, as only the government has 1st amendment infraction possibilities (and guess who ran the gov when flunky got banned? )

 

Anyway, Tucker himself has agreed time and time truw court rulings that he is farther from the truth then Trump from a male beauty pageant. Less talking phantoms and ghosts and more about actual policy you might disagree with.

A whole bunch of bullshit.

I only thought you might want to know why we believe the 2020 election was rigged.

well I already halfly understood why the GOP is shoveling that bullshit, coupled with an inescapable need to be strong & right from its voting base it tends to blind people into believing misfortune or set backs were caused by outside influence instead of more mundane and probably self inflicted issues.

 

What happended: you had a 2016 election in which it was either the plague or cholera. Eventually after all the mudslinging was settled, a victor came forth and got to work. Then 2020 happended and the bad candidate from before found himself running against a wet towel of mediocrity while he himself kept digging his cesspool even deeper, all while doing everything 2 weeks in the future. Surprise surprise his fortunes waned and he lost ungracefully.

 

 

well I already halfly understood why the GOP is shoveling that bullshit

I'm glad I was able to increase your understanding better than 50%.

 

From what came out of CPAC this weekend, it looks more and more like he's not finished yet. All energy is focused on the 2022 midterms right now, but it's already written that if Trump wants the job in 2024, it will be his. I have hope that he will just act as the ultimate lightning rod, and at the last minute flip it to Ron DeSantis and watch all the Democrats just self destruct... but this is Donald Trump, and he doesn't walk off into the sunset.

 

It's gonna be fun... and you get to watch it all on the CBB (Communist Broadcasting of Belgium)

 

The one that is hating her own life right now is Lisa Murkowski... she now has a whopping 6% approval in Alaska. Voting to impeach Trump was political suicide. Same with Liz Cheney... her daddy can't save her this time. Time to clean house!

I always seek out a deeper understanding. Thou their are limits to understanding the ramblings of madmen.

 

CPAC sounded nice, very inclusive even with all the banned speakers (lol Gaetz) and hollered out GOP hopefulls (Caitlyn Jenner). But don't worry, Boebert was there to proclaim all the evils of Democrats (vaccination is Holocaust?) to a crowd who reaped all of their benefits (booo Obamacare!).

 

oo CBB. Never heared of that, we just have actual factual news agencies. A blessing to be sure.

 

Night of the long knifes it is! yeah out with the old GOP, we want new GOP! With tiki torches!

 

 

Night of the long knifes it is! yeah out with the old GOP, we want new GOP! With tiki torches!

I don't think it's that dramatic... it's Alaska and Wyoming. Just like the New York City Mayoral Primary where whichever Democrat wins the Primary will be the next Mayor... whichever Republican wins the Primary, will win the seats. It's more a case of "If you sleep with dogs, you get fleas"... the Trump hating Republicans will go down in glorious flames. Too bad Romney isn't up for reelection... he's one of the few Republicans I really enjoy watching lose an election. He's such a coward.

The hot water in Georgia is starting to boil. A few days ago it came out that 35,000 illegal votes were counted... that's votes that should never have been allowed to cast a vote. Now this bomb goes off... this is just naked fraud. Criminal.

Press Release (voterga.org)

Georgia election rigging... this is not Cyber Ninjas in Arizona, this is Georgia. I want to see this in Pennsylvania and Nevada.

Then I want to see prison time for all involved.

Tucker Carlson reveal 'new evidence' of voter fraud in Georgia's Fulton County - YouTube

 

Night of the long knifes it is! yeah out with the old GOP, we want new GOP! With tiki torches!

I don't think it's that dramatic... it's Alaska and Wyoming. Just like the New York City Mayoral Primary where whichever Democrat wins the Primary will be the next Mayor... whichever Republican wins the Primary, will win the seats. It's more a case of "If you sleep with dogs, you get fleas"... the Trump hating Republicans will go down in glorious flames. Too bad Romney isn't up for reelection... he's one of the few Republicans I really enjoy watching lose an election. He's such a coward.

 

"trump hating Republicans" atleast is a correct definition. Cause I fail to see how Trump is a Republican... (kinda same way how I fail to see how anyone in the "green party" is actually green...)

 

As for the "election/voting fraud", quick, get Kris Kobach on it!

I think Trump dodged a bullet. Joe Biden is going down in flames over his Afghanistan troop pullout. That was a Trump campaign promise that he took too much of his sweet time to get it done, therefore he never completed his withdrawal plan.

 

Joe Biden announced to the world that he was pulling them all out by a specific date... and the end result is now a disaster there. Nobody knows if Trump would have done this a different way, or if his way would have had a different result... but I think it would have been the same no matter which one pulled the trigger. So now it's all Joe's fault.

 

If Joe's approval sinks much further, the Progressives will take him out back and tell him to "just look at the flowers".

Truth be told, I don't think ANYONE had thought that after an $83 bil investment, the Afghan army would collapse in less then a month.

Truth be told, I don't think ANYONE had thought that after an $83 bil investment, the Afghan army would collapse in less then a month.

They serve who pays them. I wouldn't want to die to protect that hellhole either.

 

I thought Obama would have been smart enough to pull us out after we got Osama bin Laden. It would have been so easy to declare victory, and leave... but he didn't do that. The stupidest line has always been... "We have to fight them over there, so we don't have to fight them here". What a boneheaded thing to say. It's so much easier to just not let them in.

 

Now since our border has been wide open all year... we're gonna have a problem all over again.

Joe Biden thought he would just go on vacation and hide at Camp David until it's over.

When his handlers figured out that wasn't gonna work, they loaded the mannequin up and flew it back to DC.

Just finished with it's address to the nation, and in a nutshell, it said 3 things...

 

It's Trumps fault

It's the Afghan army's fault

and... HELP!!!

 

Wanna start a pool on when his last day will be?

Yeah, lets blame Biden for following Trump's plan which he signed with the Taliban in 2020. But don't worry, the RNC already forgot all about that happening just so they can blame Biden!

 

 

Truth be told, I don't think ANYONE had thought that after an $83 bil investment, the Afghan army would collapse in less then a month.

Doesn't help when your "commander-in-cheif" flees the capital . The kinda silent Blitzkrieg that happened did indeed take most people by surprise, big part seem to be the complete inability of Afghans themselfes to organize and strategize an effective responce. That and when you got a tidal wave coming thruw, most would indeed just step aside and let it pass.

 

 

Yeah, lets blame Biden for following Trump's plan which he signed with the Taliban in 2020.

Very true that Trump wanted to get out of Afghanistan, but he didn't do it. Biden didn't have to do it either, but he did.

Biden crafted his own plan to get out, and it's a disaster.

 

Which Obama plan was Trump forced to continue when he took office?

The Paris Climate Accord? Nope... The Iran Nuclear Deal?... Nope... The Trans-Pacific Partnership?... Nope

 

Biden was not bound to follow anything that Trump did, or was planning to do. Joe Biden did this, and it's his fault.

There was no to exit Afghanistan that wouldn't have been a disaster.  Every invading army into Afghanistan has faced this same dilemma.  Both Alexander the Great and Genghis Khan invaded and fought in Afghanistan.   The British invaded Afghanistan three time between 1839 to 1842, and their withdrawal was declared to be one of the worst military disasters of the 19th century.   The Soviet Union also invaded three separate times in 1929, 1930 and a ten year war from 1979 to 1989.  In fact it was during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan that the United States and Saudi Arabia began providing funding for the Islamic Mujahideen.  After the Soviet withdrawal, infighting within the Mujahideen gave rise to the Warlords in Afganistan from which emerged the Taliban.  So as history has clearly shown this was the inevitable outcome once we set boots on the ground in Afganistan, we have just joined an already long list of nations that have experienced this exact scenario.  Ultimately when the people of Afganistan truly want to be free they will fight and die for their freedom and then they will eventually win their freedom, just like we did. 

Everything this guy just said is true... probably the exact reason why Trump never pulled the trigger on leaving. But it's our shit sandwich, and we have to eat it. I still don't agree with bringing in thousands of Afghan refugees... it will be trouble.

 

Yeah, lets blame Biden for following Trump's plan which he signed with the Taliban in 2020.

Very true that Trump wanted to get out of Afghanistan, but he didn't do it. Biden didn't have to do it either, but he did.

Biden crafted his own plan to get out, and it's a disaster.

 

Which Obama plan was Trump forced to continue when he took office?

The Paris Climate Accord? Nope... The Iran Nuclear Deal?... Nope... The Trans-Pacific Partnership?... Nope

 

Biden was not bound to follow anything that Trump did, or was planning to do. Joe Biden did this, and it's his fault.

 

 

trump legitimized the Taliban further then any world leader had done previously with those peace talks, heck the entire deal was shoved up the democratic elected president with little to no input from him or the Afghan political and military side of things.

 

Also don't reminds us of Trump showing of how international treaties seem to mean nothing to him or the Republican establishment. And your line even shows it was all for naught, cause the US is still in it >_> let alone the setback from blowing up the Iran Nuclear deal.

 

Biden followed previously accepted strategies and fulfilled a long-lasting wish from a majority of americans. As with others I actually doubt it could have been done "better" except by not doing it.

 

Everything this guy just said is true... probably the exact reason why Trump never pulled the trigger on leaving. But it's our shit sandwich, and we have to eat it. I still don't agree with bringing in thousands of Afghan refugees... it will be trouble.

Which side will make the "trouble" thou, the refugees or the folks who want to throw a fit over it? >_>