Tempered IRON
There is still some vote manipulation occurring. Does anyone know what it is?
Is it possible that the "Strongman" attribute or whatever also applies on the voting system?
How so? I'm not sure what you mean.
Yeah, guess I needed a refreshment read, the strongman attribute only signifies that kills can't be blocked and nothing else.
Other than that, yeah, no idea. Considering Brewers said this game might have roles that we've never heard of...
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We've already seen one vote manipulation role (Kevin1.0) but it looks like we have another as well.
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I think at this point we're waiting to hear more from Finster. We also need to figure out what is going on with the vote manipulation.
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(OOC: My apologies for going off grid the past few days. RL work issues have kept me busier than a 1 legged man in an ass kicking contest. They may continue to do so. I'll try to do my best to keep up.)
I am Aurane Waters, Vanilla member of the Town. I have no special abilities assigned to my character.
I cannot reasonably explain how Tony got blocked attempting to investigate me on N2. I don't have any role and there is nothing I could do to block Tony's attempt to target me in any way. There has to be another factor in play that caused the result he received when he targeted me.
Tony seems to be basing his whole accusation on me based on a flavor text that I am too strong willed, and is assuming that means I'm a strongman. Even if I were a strongman, it wouldn't make sense for Brewers to give him a result like that because it would be basically the mod outting me which would be inherently unfair. I could be wrong and maybe Brewers or another mod can confirm, but I’m fairly certain that a role blocker wouldn’t be given any direct result like that if he targeted a strongman making a kill. He would just see the kill still went through.
Voting for me will only bring the scum and any other factions attempting to do the town harm closer to their goals.
IRONclad
+2 Scum points
Dontavian, lynched townie KevinH1.0, avoided lynching LWW
The Warrior, lynched townie KevinH1.0, avoided lynching LWW
Torres951, avoided lynching LWW, killed a townie
Your “+2” list above is 2/3rds wrong,
Um, wrong. There are other roles that are informed on the scumminess of players as they roam around at nightOnly a scum would know that.
So assuming Dontavian is including himself in the 2/3 wrong category, it must be 50% between The Warrior and Torres951.
10th President of IRON
+2 Scum points
Dontavian, lynched townie KevinH1.0, avoided lynching LWW
The Warrior, lynched townie KevinH1.0, avoided lynching LWW
Torres951, avoided lynching LWW, killed a townie
Your “+2” list above is 2/3rds wrong,
Um, wrong. There are other roles that are informed on the scumminess of players as they roam around at nightOnly a scum would know that.
So assuming Dontavian is including himself in the 2/3 wrong category, it must be 50% between The Warrior and Torres951.
I can 100% confirm, whether or not I'm included on Dontavian's list, that I don't belong on your +2 list.
I voted for Kevin1.0 almost entirely because of character name. Based off of Feast For Crows lore specifically I assumed (incorrectly) that a Martell would be scum since all revealed town at that time were Lannister aligned and the Martell's and Lannister's were at odds directly in Feast For Crows. Obviously that line of thought was proven wrong but I didn't think it was out of line to follow that line of thinking since Brewers' previous GoT games have done similar things. If I were scum it wouldn't make sense for me to die on that hill so early in the game. The risk of being in the spotlight that early certainly wasn't worth it.
As for LWW, I had nothing to go off of personally and wasn't comfortable voting for him with no justification. I don't know how accurate Ferastical's analysis is here:
Additional information I thought would be useful: N1, I tracked MK, and he visited Canik. What I think went down is, that MK and LWW were in the same scum faction, MK found out that Canik was also scum-aligned, but they could confirm that he wasn't in their faction, so they decided to get rid of him without letting the town know*. Canik was also on the KevinH wagon. Very likely we have 3 scum down already.
But if accurate it would mean that MK and LWW were in the same mafia faction and would mean that I probably wasn't in that faction. If we assume that multiple scum factions exist, why wouldn't I want to latch on to LWW's lynch if I was scum? It would mean killing off a competing scum faction and make me look good for voting for scum.
Tempered IRON
Wait, now I really want to know who Tony targeted on the other nights, and if we can possibly get people to confirm his claims.
Spill the beans, Maurice.
But if accurate it would mean that MK and LWW were in the same mafia faction and would mean that I probably wasn't in that faction. If we assume that multiple scum factions exist, why wouldn't I want to latch on to LWW's lynch if I was scum? It would mean killing off a competing scum faction and make me look good for voting for scum.
Yes, so why didn't you?
Also, if Dontavian is dropping this obvious hints about him being an investigative role, why doesn't he just come public with the information? What's going on?
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Wait, now I really want to know who Tony targeted on the other nights, and if we can possibly get people to confirm his claims.
Spill the beans, Maurice.
But if accurate it would mean that MK and LWW were in the same mafia faction and would mean that I probably wasn't in that faction. If we assume that multiple scum factions exist, why wouldn't I want to latch on to LWW's lynch if I was scum? It would mean killing off a competing scum faction and make me look good for voting for scum.
Yes, so why didn't you?
Because I'm town and didn't personally see the justification for voting for him? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we ended up lynching scum but I wasn't convinced at the time of the argument against him.
IRONclad
Truth be told, I was wrong, too.
I'm going to side with Lilweirdward
Vote: Ali bin Turban
However, I'm excused ...
KEVINH2,0 IS CONFIRMED TOWN
We need to use what we know to make some sort of decision.
In hindsight, Lilweirdward was scum and I give the 4 players that lynched him some townie cred.
However, there's the possibility of 2 scum factions and maybe some of one faction killed the other.
Now that I think about it, maybe Torres is from one scum faction and and killed MK from another scum faction. (It still bothers me that he killed Velocity / tried to kill Tony)
Tempered IRON
I can 100% confirm, whether or not I'm included on Dontavian's list, that I don't belong on your +2 list.
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Even IF there is 2 mafia factions and tony is part of mafia, framing FB out of nowhere is a bad move
Tony is in a good position to lay low since he's part of the lww wagon
If FB flips town he's going to be suspected tomorrow
Given these, I prefer to side with tony for now
Start voting guys, deadline is near
Tempered IRON
Even IF there is 2 mafia factions and tony is part of mafia, framing FB out of nowhere is a bad move
Tony is in a good position to lay low since he's part of the lww wagon
If FB flips town he's going to be suspected tomorrow
Given these, I prefer to side with tony for now
Start voting guys, deadline is near
So you're voting for...?
Dishonoured - Traitor
Wait, now I really want to know who Tony targeted on the other nights, and if we can possibly get people to confirm his claims.
Spill the beans, Maurice.
But if accurate it would mean that MK and LWW were in the same mafia faction and would mean that I probably wasn't in that faction. If we assume that multiple scum factions exist, why wouldn't I want to latch on to LWW's lynch if I was scum? It would mean killing off a competing scum faction and make me look good for voting for scum.
Yes, so why didn't you?
Also, if Dontavian is dropping this obvious hints about him being an investigative role, why doesn't he just come public with the information? What's going on?
Night 0: velocities, Night 1- LWW ; Smith was control
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Just over a day remains before deadline.
Finster Baby is in line for for the lynch at the moment.
Every player revealed has had a role. Finster Baby claims Vanilla Townie.
I 100% believe that he's Vanilla, but I'm starting to thing Vanilla Goon.
Even IF there is 2 mafia factions and tony is part of mafia, framing FB out of nowhere is a bad move
Tony is in a good position to lay low since he's part of the lww wagon
If FB flips town he's going to be suspected tomorrow
Given these, I prefer to side with tony for now
Start voting guys, deadline is near
So you're voting for...?
Finster
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