You can't use your ninja ability for cop.

It's a kill action.

 

Strongman and ninja are kill complementary modifiers.

 

 

@kevin, isn't that right here as well?

 

False. https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Ninja

 

A ninja ability can be applied to any night action. It is most commonly used with kill abilities but it is in no way restricted to them.

Ah, what do you know?

I didn't know that.

 

Well, for now I'm not going after finster.

Today is about Torres.

I just want to get this done.

 

We can discuss possible secondary suspects so that vigs and cops and other roles can make a more informed choice.

But we can't and shouldn't shift the votes away from Torres.

 

 

You can't use your ninja ability for cop.

It's a kill action.

 

Strongman and ninja are kill complementary modifiers.

 

 

@kevin, isn't that right here as well?

 

False. https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Ninja

 

A ninja ability can be applied to any night action. It is most commonly used with kill abilities but it is in no way restricted to them.

Ah, what do you know?

I didn't know that.

 

Well, for now I'm not going after finster.

Today is about Torres.

I just want to get this done.

 

We can discuss possible secondary suspects so that vigs and cops and other roles can make a more informed choice.

But we can't and shouldn't shift the votes away from Torres.

 

 

To be fair I didn't know either. I looked it up in response to his claim otherwise I would have reacted the same way you did.

Ok but tomorrow regardless if finster gets replaced we need to heavily consider lynching him.

Referencing https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/21905-Season-6-General-Information
 

Strongman: Kills performed with Strongman cannot be stopped in any way (serves no purpose if the player is town)

Ninja: Night actions performed on the night that Ninja is used are invisible to investigative roles (Trackers, Watchers, and Voyeurs)

 
A townie can be a Ninja but not a Strongman in this game.
 


Vote Count

Torres951 (6): Chaplain of death, Brewersalliance, Lyner, Rafay, Dontavian, Tony Maurice,
Finster Baby (1): Finster Baby,
Ferastical (0):
Lord MK (0):
Captainjf (0):
Kaziocore (0):
Brewersalliance (0):
Rafay (0):
The Warrior (0):
Chaplain of death (0):
Dontavian (0):
Lyner (0):
Tony Maurice (0):
Velocity (0):
Wolfpacks (0):
 
No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Kaziocore, The Warrior, Velocity, Torres951, captainjf, Lord MK, Wolfpacks, Ferastical,  
 

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
Deadline is Monday, February 1 at 12:00 EST

 

 

You can't use your ninja ability for cop.

It's a kill action.

 

Strongman and ninja are kill complementary modifiers.

 

 

@kevin, isn't that right here as well?

 

False. https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Ninja

 

A ninja ability can be applied to any night action. It is most commonly used with kill abilities but it is in no way restricted to them.

Ah, what do you know?

I didn't know that.

 

Well, for now I'm not going after finster.

Today is about Torres.

I just want to get this done.

 

We can discuss possible secondary suspects so that vigs and cops and other roles can make a more informed choice.

But we can't and shouldn't shift the votes away from Torres.

 

 

I have nothing significant to contribute, but should those with roles perhaps aim towards the inactive/less active? 

 

Ok but tomorrow regardless if finster gets replaced we need to heavily consider lynching him.

 

Is this because you are suspicious of him or because of some other reason? If Torres is scum (all but confirmed), then you are advocating for a townie lynch. Why?

 

Ask MK requested,

 

VOTE: Torres

 

This is L-1, no hammers yet please.

 

 

 

 

You can't use your ninja ability for cop.

It's a kill action.

 

Strongman and ninja are kill complementary modifiers.

 

 

@kevin, isn't that right here as well?

False. https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Ninja

 

A ninja ability can be applied to any night action. It is most commonly used with kill abilities but it is in no way restricted to them.

Ah, what do you know?

I didn't know that.

 

Well, for now I'm not going after finster.

Today is about Torres.

I just want to get this done.

 

We can discuss possible secondary suspects so that vigs and cops and other roles can make a more informed choice.

But we can't and shouldn't shift the votes away from Torres.

I have nothing significant to contribute, but should those with roles perhaps aim towards the inactive/less active?

Ok but tomorrow regardless if finster gets replaced we need to heavily consider lynching him.

Is this because you are suspicious of him or because of some other reason? If Torres is scum (all but confirmed), then you are advocating for a townie lynch. Why?

 

Ask MK requested,

 

VOTE: Torres

 

This is L-1, no hammers yet please.

It's because of my posts. Here is the summary

 

Finster is a cop. Scum has one of the two cop roles so it's a 50/50 chance he is scum

 

Torres being scum does not confirm finster. Don't make the mistake of confirming him as town (remember me in Velocity's game)

Fine lynch me. I seriously don't give a fuck. I've already asked to be replaced.

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE: FINSTER BABY

 

I'm out. Have a great game.

Calm mate it's only a game

 

Vote Count

Torres951 (7): Chaplain of death, Brewersalliance, Lyner, Rafay, Dontavian, Tony Maurice, captainjf,

Finster Baby (1): Finster Baby,

Ferastical (0):

Lord MK (0):

Captainjf (0):

Kaziocore (0):

Brewersalliance (0):

Rafay (0):

The Warrior (0):

Chaplain of death (0):

Dontavian (0):

Lyner (0):

Tony Maurice (0):

Velocity (0):

Wolfpacks (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not voting: Kaziocore, The Warrior, Velocity, Torres951, Lord MK, Wolfpacks, Ferastical,  

 

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline is Monday, February 1 at 12:00 EST

Sorry for the inactivity

Torres is lying
I'm a N2 N4 jailkeeper, not a doctor and I used my N2 action on Rafay

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to be honest, I got lazy because the days are long and a lot of people are inactive

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I'd go with Rafay tomorrow if Robert was indeed killed by a vig

Sorry for the inactivity

Torres is lying

I'm a N2 N4 jailkeeper, not a doctor and I used my N2 action on Rafay

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to be honest, I got lazy because the days are long and a lot of people are inactive

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I'd go with Rafay tomorrow if Robert was indeed killed by a vig

Did u read anything?

What do you think

 

 

Ferastical, the only reason brewers went unlynched for that long is first, he never plays. He has been putting out more games than any other mod. You can't be lynched, if you don't play he used to be on same wins as me when I left iron and quit mafia for quite a while. When i returned, he was still there, like maybe a few wins more. Now I got more wins. He never played as much as, say me or Kevin did in the last 2 years and he said so himself. He prefers modding than playing, cause he always get investigated n1 if he's Scum or killed n1 if he's not. And secondly, the reason he didn't get lynched when he did play was cause except me and him, no one else was really active enough to plot against him, untill lww came along recently. And i never plotted against him, cause i felt sorry for samus quitting mafia and didn't want that happening again. And watched what happened when someone other than us (Tony) actually played, he got lynched. So i don't go after Torres, not cause of grudges But rather cause they aren't pulling in the effort like Tony did in my game I also go after Tony, cause he stopped playing like that after my game. Hell, even Rafay played much better in that game, and d1 was much better for it. Lurkers make the game dull and driven by just two or 3 players all the time, which is another reason why brewers never got lynched, cause we were always pushing the day along and naturally, no one suspects themselves.

 

Thanks MK, for sharing your thoughts on the matter.

 

 

 

Sorry for the inactivity Torres is lying I'm a N2 N4 jailkeeper, not a doctor and I used my N2 action on Rafay

 

This is the final nail in the coffin, we actually need to find out what alignment Torres has as the amount of suspicion we have on him is staggering. We have a week left to discuss things, but I don't see this being any more useful than throwing doubt in the mix of our current affairs and allowing time for scum to start throwing shade on someone else.

 

I was just writing a paragraph about putting my vote down at noon EST time (granting everyone 6 and 1/2 hours of time for other things), but after giving it some thought, last thing we need is someone to back out of the wagon now.

 

Here goes.

 

Vote -> Torres951

Hi, kazio.

Nice to see you again.

 

So n2 n4 jailkeeper?

Nice.

 

So Torres is flat out lying then.

.

Jeez, ferastical hammered Torres.

As i was writing.

.

 

N1

lww died as an unknown townie.

Tony ( voyeured lww that night and saw he was tracked. Indicates ninja kill

N3 alignment cop is scum.

Ferastical tracked lww, who visited tw.

 

Captainjf watched MK - found dontavian visited me. I'm still alive, so dontavian is probably town.

 

N2, Cod kills Robert, who remains unknown.

Finster (n2 alignment cop) finds Torres to be scum.

Tony did a voyeur on dontavian and no other actions observed.

Kaziocore, jailkeepered rafay

 

Dontavian is either a doctor, rb, jailkeeper, or joat, from the fact that he got no results.

 

 

Watcher n1 Only Macho - Captainjf

Alignment Cop n2 Only 1x Ninja - Finster

Alignment Cop n3 Only 1x Ninja

Vigilante n2 Only - CoD

Tracker n1, n3 1x Strongman - ferastical

Jailkeeper n2, n4 - Kazio

Role Cop n1, n2, n3 1x Strongman - torres?

Voyeur n1, n2, n3, n4 1x Strongman - Tony

 

 

Who's the n2 watcher?

Sorry for the inactivity

Torres is lying

I'm a N2 N4 jailkeeper, not a doctor and I used my N2 action on Rafay

 

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to be honest, I got lazy because the days are long and a lot of people are inactive

 

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I'd go with Rafay tomorrow if Robert was indeed killed by a vig

Why Rafay? I still think finster is the best choice since there is a 50/50 chance he is scum based on him claiming cop.

Well cause since he jailkeepered rafay and the kill was by the vig instead of the mafia, he thinks that he struck gold and successfully prevented the kill by rafay

Ahh true. I still think the odds are better on finster as there are a few reasons why the kill might have failed, but I'd def warrants looking into (and looking into the behaviors of both of them)

 

I think tomorrow we need to lynch finster or Rafay depending on tonight's info and how the two have played this game

Vote Count

Torres951 (8): Chaplain of death, Brewersalliance, Lyner, Rafay, Dontavian, Tony Maurice, captainjf, Ferastical,
Finster Baby (1): Finster Baby,
Ferastical (0):
Lord MK (0):
Captainjf (0):
Kaziocore (0):
Brewersalliance (0):
Rafay (0):
The Warrior (0):
Chaplain of death (0):
Dontavian (0):
Lyner (0):
Tony Maurice (0):
Velocity (0):
Wolfpacks (0):
 
No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Kaziocore, The Warrior, Velocity, Torres951, Lord MK, Wolfpacks,  
 

Torres951, a member of the Mafia, has been lynched.
It is now Night 3.
Deadline for actions is Tuesday, February 2 January 26 at 20:00 EST

Night 3 ends.

Lord MK, a townie, has been killed in the night.
The Warrior, a townie, has been killed in the night.

It is now Day 4.

Vote Count

Finster Baby (0):
Ferastical (0):
Captainjf (0):
Kaziocore (0):
Brewersalliance (0):
Rafay (0):
Chaplain of death (0):
Dontavian (0):
Lyner (0):
Tony Maurice (0):
Velocity (0):
Wolfpacks (0):
 
No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Kaziocore, Velocity, Wolfpacks, Chaplain of death, Brewersalliance, Lyner, Rafay, Dontavian, Tony Maurice, captainjf, Ferastical, Finster Baby,  
 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Monday, February 8 at 12:00 EST

Given the benefit of the doubt, all on torres wagon could be considered Town, but knowing he was for the chop anyway the wagon is bound to contain scum members.

 

FOS all on Torres wagon especially Ferastical who hammered the wagon

Given the benefit of the doubt, all on torres wagon could be considered Town, but knowing he was for the chop anyway the wagon is bound to contain scum members.

 

FOS all on Torres wagon especially Ferastical who hammered the wagon

fos on everyone is a little much. I'd accept it if you did kevin style where he categorises everyone

DAMNIT kevin's the mod. 

 

It's good but bad at the same time lol

FOS all on Torres wagon especially Ferastical who hammered the wagon

 

 

You're very welcome 

 

Why don't we go ahead and compare the votes on D2/D3? 

 

 

 

 

D2 final voute count:

 

Torres951 (7): Chaplain of death, Lyner, Kaziocore, The Warrior, Brewersalliance, Velocity, Dontavian,

Ferastical (2): Torres951,  captainjf, 

Robert2424 (2): Lord MK, Wolfpacks,

Lord MK (1): Robert2424,

Captainjf (0):

Finster Baby (0):

Kaziocore (0):

Brewersalliance (0):

Rafay (0):

The Warrior (0):

Chaplain of death (0):

Dontavian (0):

Lyner (0):

Tony Maurice (0):

Velocity (0):

Wolfpacks (0):

 

No Lynch (1): Ferastical,

 

Not voting: Rafay,  Finster Baby, Tony Maurice

 

 

 

 

 

 

D3 final vote count: 

 

Torres951 (8): Chaplain of death, Brewersalliance, Lyner, Rafay, Dontavian, Tony Maurice, captainjf, Ferastical,

Finster Baby (1): Finster Baby,

Ferastical (0):

Lord MK (0):

Captainjf (0):

Kaziocore (0):

Brewersalliance (0):

Rafay (0):

The Warrior (0):

Chaplain of death (0):

Dontavian (0):

Lyner (0):

Tony Maurice (0):

Velocity (0):

Wolfpacks (0):

No Lynch (0):

 

Not voting: Kaziocore, The Warrior, Velocity, Torres951, Lord MK, Wolfpacks

 

 

 

 

The names are color coded as such:

 

Green -> The person was on the wagon starting D2 and followed through on D3. (The darker shade denotes people who have been confirmed townie)

Yellow -> The person voted differently on D2, but had a sudden change of heart on D3, following the wagon. (Yes, that includes me)

Red -> The person was pretty adamant about lynching someone on D2 but didn't place their vote on D3.

 

What is likely?

1. People in the green category we're on the wagon from D2, and unless a plan was formed to get rid of Torres that early, it's pretty likely that this category contains people who aren't scum.
2. People in the yellow category had 15 IRL days to make a decision on who to vote D2, but that option wasn't Torres. Within just 5 IRL days of D3, they had joined the Torres wagon. This action is more or less suspicious, possibly indicating scum alignment, but can also be dismissed on the fact that new evidence had been brought forward from the previous night.
3. People in the red category felt for whatever reason uncomfortable or not suited for voting against Torres, most likely because they were aware of Torres' alignment.

All that being said, there still remain two big questions marks considering Kaziocore and Velocity. Since they are still around and kicking, what made you vote on Torres D2 but not D3? Would like to hear it from your point of view.   

 

Also, I remember brewers saying in one of his posts that we know for certain that one scum has a cop role. How do you figure?

VOTE:  Brewers

 

His active campaign against my roleclaim squarely, IMO, puts him in the scum category.

 

FOS all on Torres wagon especially Ferastical who hammered the wagon

 

 

You're very welcome 

 

Why don't we go ahead and compare the votes on D2/D3? 

 

 

 

 

D2 final voute count:

 

Torres951 (7): Chaplain of death, Lyner, Kaziocore, The Warrior, Brewersalliance, Velocity, Dontavian,

Ferastical (2): Torres951,  captainjf, 

Robert2424 (2): Lord MK, Wolfpacks,

Lord MK (1): Robert2424,

Captainjf (0):

Finster Baby (0):

Kaziocore (0):

Brewersalliance (0):

Rafay (0):

The Warrior (0):

Chaplain of death (0):

Dontavian (0):

Lyner (0):

Tony Maurice (0):

Velocity (0):

Wolfpacks (0):

 

No Lynch (1): Ferastical,

 

Not voting: Rafay,  Finster Baby, Tony Maurice

 

 

 

 

 

 

D3 final vote count: 

 

Torres951 (8): Chaplain of death, Brewersalliance, Lyner, Rafay, Dontavian, Tony Maurice, captainjf, Ferastical,

Finster Baby (1): Finster Baby,

Ferastical (0):

Lord MK (0):

Captainjf (0):

Kaziocore (0):

Brewersalliance (0):

Rafay (0):

The Warrior (0):

Chaplain of death (0):

Dontavian (0):

Lyner (0):

Tony Maurice (0):

Velocity (0):

Wolfpacks (0):

No Lynch (0):

 

Not voting: Kaziocore, The Warrior, Velocity, Torres951, Lord MK, Wolfpacks

 

 

 

 

The names are color coded as such:

 

Green -> The person was on the wagon starting D2 and followed through on D3. (The darker shade denotes people who have been confirmed townie)

Yellow -> The person voted differently on D2, but had a sudden change of heart on D3, following the wagon. (Yes, that includes me)

Red -> The person was pretty adamant about lynching someone on D2 but didn't place their vote on D3.

 

What is likely?

1. People in the green category we're on the wagon from D2, and unless a plan was formed to get rid of Torres that early, it's pretty likely that this category contains people who aren't scum.
2. People in the yellow category had 15 IRL days to make a decision on who to vote D2, but that option wasn't Torres. Within just 5 IRL days of D3, they had joined the Torres wagon. This action is more or less suspicious, possibly indicating scum alignment, but can also be dismissed on the fact that new evidence had been brought forward from the previous night.
3. People in the red category felt for whatever reason uncomfortable or not suited for voting against Torres, most likely because they were aware of Torres' alignment.

All that being said, there still remain two big questions marks considering Kaziocore and Velocity. Since they are still around and kicking, what made you vote on Torres D2 but not D3? Would like to hear it from your point of view.   

 

Also, I remember brewers saying in one of his posts that we know for certain that one scum has a cop role. How do you figure?

 

 

I'd have to dig out the relevant posts but basically someone claimed to have watched the person who was killed N1 and nobody visited, therefore it had to be someone with a Ninja ability, which only the alignment cops have. that's if we are believing the watchers claim (I dont recall who claimed that.)

VOTE: Brewers

 

His active campaign against my roleclaim squarely, IMO, puts him in the scum category.

You claimed alignment cop. Scum clearly has an alignment cop. There are two alignment cops in the game. Therefore there is a 50% chance you are scum lol

@cod it was tony. He was a voyer and he did not detect the kill ability used on lww. Therefore a ninja ability was used to kill lww

 

So that means one of the two cops is scum