I would not have counted votes past deadline.
I use EDT until the clocks change in the fall.
The mafia do have day talk.
 
Vote count

Imran Ehsan (3): lilweirdward, Rafay, Brewers 2.0,
Brewers 2.0 (2): Lyner, Imran Ehsan,
Ferastical (0):
iSocialism (0):
lilweirdward (0):
Captainjf (0):
Chaplain of death (0):
Lord MK (0):
Lyner (0):
Rafay (0):
 
No Lynch (0):
 
Not voting:  Captainjf, Ferastical, iSocialism, Lord MK, Chaplain of death,

 
With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Monday, August 9, at 12:00 EDT.

 

 

The mafia do have day talk.

 

 

 

thanks for the clarification.  so lyner and imran could have talked in the day to plan the vote swaps.   i think its pretty obvious who the scum team is

Woah, a lot of texts.

I say Imran is sus.

 

But then he's still active.

 

I'm going after the inactives.

Vote: Ferastical

so with MK voting that means we have these players not voting

 

Ferastical, isoc, cpatainjf, and CoD

 

ferastical and isoc wont vote the rest of the game since they are MIA

 

captain jf vanished in the last game so i doubt he will participate here any more either

 

which leaves us CoD, who only has three posts this entire game but he did vote twice

 

so we have 10 players alive

 

2 are scum, imran and someone else, most likely lyner

 

that means of the other 8 players, only 5 of them are voting players

 

a mislynch or a night kill would make it 2 scum, three inactives and four townies.  if only one townie casts a vote on another townie, the two scum can then join that wagon, and get to the deadline total.  onyl way a scum gets lynched is if ALL THREE remaining town not only vote for the scum, but the first townie switches their vote onto the scum as well.

 

So @lyner, please tell me how leaving the inactive players alive and forcing a no lynch doesnt benefit scum?

 

if we dont kill a scum here today this game is basically over and scum wins

 

we ABSOLUTLY need to lynch imran today, and then can go after lyner tomorrow unless we have a better suspect.  

Two things:

 

1) you're assuming that all two remaining inactives are definitely town, which is a good worst case scenario to prepare for, but is definitely not guaranteed. If scum has even one of them then the math obviously changes completely - the active mafia would need to play the whole game by themselves basically, and rely on town either mislynching or no lynching on their own vs being able to really control it.

 

2) Kevin already replaced one inactive, and I assume he'll keep doing that with anyone else who dies and is active. There is definitely a chance that at least one of iSoc or Ferastical gets replaced with someone who actually tries in the next few days if they don't get killed off first, which would probably benefit us. Not that I'm banking on that, but I don't think we need to treat today like LYLO or anything.

true, kevin could replace them.  

Unfortunately I agree that the end of day vote swapping to ensure that nobody was lynched was most likely done by scum. Lyner swapping his vote didn't ensure a no lynch, it just changed who would be lynched. Imran swapping votes stopped the lynch from happening. 

 

Vote: Imran

lol brewers trying this hard to paint me as scum with nonsense is sus af

 

 

 

Yeah I don't necessarily think what Imran did is scummy because it saved Velocity, but because it secured a no lynch at the very end of the day

Why not? If both Velocity and Imran are scums then Imran was forced to make that vote. Meanwhile, a scum Imran securing a no-lynch isn't really an advantage imo. Town PRs gets 1 extra night action.

Imran could've easily just let his inactive partner get bussed since, if Velocity is mafia, it would've happened eventually anyway, and he probably would've known that it'd look scummy to take his vote off of his partner. On the other hand, we essentially need three successful lynches (thanks Kevin for correcting me!) out of 11 players starting the game, so it's in the mafia teams best interests to keep the inactives around long enough to use up some of our mislynches while they pick off more townies at night until all the PRs are gone. Giving scum a free night kill is moronic at best and scummy at worst.

I'm not saying Velocity/brewers 2.0 isn't also scum, but I think it's a lot more likely that Imran is, and if he isn't then I think it rules out the one thing that made Velocity possibly scum at all in the first place.

It's 9 town vs 2 mafia, it's very difficult to win if you lose your partner on D1. Not to mention the inactives can be replaced.

 

 

My reasoning for voting Velocity is because it's better to keep an active player rather than inactive but since brewers replaced him then I'm ok with killing Imran first.

 

Either way, if Imran/Velocity flips scum then the chance of the other also being scum increases.

 

Vote: Imran

One more vote hammers Imran, just FYI. We do still have a whole RL week left in the day so we probably shouldn't end the day just yet.

lol brewers trying this hard to paint me as scum with nonsense is sus af

 

 

 

 

Yeah I don't necessarily think what Imran did is scummy because it saved Velocity, but because it secured a no lynch at the very end of the day

Why not? If both Velocity and Imran are scums then Imran was forced to make that vote. Meanwhile, a scum Imran securing a no-lynch isn't really an advantage imo. Town PRs gets 1 extra night action.

Imran could've easily just let his inactive partner get bussed since, if Velocity is mafia, it would've happened eventually anyway, and he probably would've known that it'd look scummy to take his vote off of his partner. On the other hand, we essentially need three successful lynches (thanks Kevin for correcting me!) out of 11 players starting the game, so it's in the mafia teams best interests to keep the inactives around long enough to use up some of our mislynches while they pick off more townies at night until all the PRs are gone. Giving scum a free night kill is moronic at best and scummy at worst.

 

I'm not saying Velocity/brewers 2.0 isn't also scum, but I think it's a lot more likely that Imran is, and if he isn't then I think it rules out the one thing that made Velocity possibly scum at all in the first place.

It's 9 town vs 2 mafia, it's very difficult to win if you lose your partner on D1. Not to mention the inactives can be replaced.

 

 

My reasoning for voting Velocity is because it's better to keep an active player rather than inactive but since brewers replaced him then I'm ok with killing Imran first.

 

Either way, if Imran/Velocity flips scum then the chance of the other also being scum increases.

 

Vote: Imran

I mean I just think your scum and so far I am 2 for 2 when I’ve accused you of being scum so theres that

 

Hell last game I self voted just so I could kill you

Vote count

Imran Ehsan (5): lilweirdward, Rafay, Brewers 2.0, Chaplain of death, Lyner,
Brewers 2.0 (1): Imran Ehsan,
Ferastical (1): Lord MK,
iSocialism (0):
lilweirdward (0):
Captainjf (0):
Chaplain of death (0):
Lord MK (0):
Lyner (0):
Rafay (0):
 
No Lynch (0):
 
Not voting:  Captainjf, Ferastical, iSocialism,

 
With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Monday, August 9, at 12:00 EDT.

So any updates on Ferastical and isoc?

No updates on Ferastical and iSocialism.

 

Vote count

Imran Ehsan (5): lilweirdward, Rafay, Brewers 2.0, Chaplain of death, Lyner,

Brewers 2.0 (1): Imran Ehsan,

Ferastical (1): Lord MK,

iSocialism (0):

lilweirdward (0):

Captainjf (0):

Chaplain of death (0):

Lord MK (0):

Lyner (0):

Rafay (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not voting:  Captainjf, Ferastical, iSocialism,

 

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.

Deadline is Monday, August 9, at 12:00 EDT.

https://ironcentral.org/community/topic/65858-iron-fantasy-football-league-pentagoal/

So let me get this straight... captainjf can post a joke vote in the replacement thread but he wont participate in the actual game?

Sign up for football. 

 

Also hammer Imran for crying out loud

yeah this game really died.  and its super pathetic that captainjf can post jokes in the sign up thread but cant bother to participate in the game

thats borderline game throwing imo

I mean a significant chunk of the game is inactive anyway, and mafia sure isn't gonna engage now that Imran is destined to die today one way or another. Normally I'd say that ending the day so early is harmful for town, but I don't know what else we can get out of the day at this point.

Vote count

Imran Ehsan (5): lilweirdward, Rafay, Brewers 2.0, Chaplain of death, Lyner,

Brewers 2.0 (1): Imran Ehsan,

Ferastical (1): Lord MK,

iSocialism (0):

lilweirdward (0):

Captainjf (0):

Chaplain of death (0):

Lord MK (0):

Lyner (0):

Rafay (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not voting:  Captainjf, Ferastical, iSocialism,

 

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.

Deadline is Monday, August 9, at 12:00 EDT.

 

 

Normally I'd say that ending the day so early is harmful for town, but I don't know what else we can get out of the day at this point.

 

 

and whos gonna hammer him?

 

 

 

 

Not voting:  Captainjf, Ferastical, iSocialism,

 

ferastical hasnt been online since July 26,   isoc July 12th, and captain refuses to participate, even tho he can post jokes in the sign up thread. 

Vote: Imran.

 

He's clear as day scum.

And i want this day to move along

And i want this day to move along

 

 

and whos gonna hammer him?

 

Well that aged poorly lol forgot about MK 

 

 

 

Vote: Imran.

 

Vote count

Imran Ehsan (6): lilweirdward, Rafay, Brewers 2.0, Chaplain of death, Lyner, Lord MK,
Brewers 2.0 (1): Imran Ehsan,
Ferastical (0):
iSocialism (0):
lilweirdward (0):
Captainjf (0):
Chaplain of death (0):
Lord MK (0):
Lyner (0):
Rafay (0):
 
No Lynch (0):
 
Not voting:  Captainjf, Ferastical, iSocialism,

 
Imran Ehsan, Mafia Role Cop, has been lynched.

It is now Night 2.

Please send night actions by Monday, August 9 at 12:00 EDT.

 

Night 2 ends.

Nobody died in the night.

It is now Day 3

Vote count

Brewers 2.0 (0):
Ferastical (0):
iSocialism (0):
lilweirdward (0):
Captainjf (0):
Chaplain of death (0):
Lord MK (0):
Lyner (0):
Rafay (0):
 
No Lynch (0):
 
Not voting:  Captainjf, Ferastical, iSocialism, lilweirdward, Rafay, Brewers 2.0, Chaplain of death, Lyner, Lord MK,

 

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Monday, August 16 at 17:00 EDT.

 

Chance that Imran was trying to save Velocity on D1 just increases by a lot

 

Vote: brewers