I am still waiting on clarification from NE regarding his vote on me.

 

Going back to my earlier post, based on catains posts on D2, I am going to say cap investigated either me or isoc on N1 and came out with town result. With godfather in game this doesn't confirm anything but we can assume the other scum is one of NE, Cod or Zacch.

 

I would like to hear others thoughts on this.

I am still waiting on clarification from NE regarding his vote on me.

 

Going back to my earlier post, based on catains posts on D2, I am going to say cap investigated either me or isoc on N1 and came out with town result. With godfather in game this doesn't confirm anything but we can assume the other scum is one of NE, Cod or Zacch.

 

I would like to hear others thoughts on this.

Can you point to what posts make you feel this way?

I am still waiting on clarification from NE regarding his vote on me.

 

Going back to my earlier post, based on catains posts on D2, I am going to say cap investigated either me or isoc on N1 and came out with town result. With godfather in game this doesn't confirm anything but we can assume the other scum is one of NE, Cod or Zacch.

 

I would like to hear others thoughts on this.

 

I don't think we have enough information to draw a conclusion on who Cap investigated on night 1. In the instance of NE, CoD and Myself, Cap raised suspicion of the ease at which CoD and NE agreed with his assessment. And in my case, being voted on by NE after I voted no lynch.

 

Its more than possible in any of those three (3) instances, he could have been trying to bait scum out by presenting false suspicion of someone he knew was town to see if anyone would try to bandwagon. Especially with a Governor Role in play who could protect town against a quick hammer by scum. 

 

so no lynch favors the scum and we have seen Zacch and Imran both vote for no lynch, they could have used those opportunities to get the kills,

 

on that logic and knowing i am not scum,

 

and i make this selection simply on a 50/50 coin flip.

 

Vote: Imran

Apart from you no one voted to lynch on D2. Only Zach voted no lynch. COD and cap also withheld from voting and isoc disappeared. However it's interesting that you are singling me out only.

 

so no lynch favors the scum and we have seen Zacch and Imran both vote for no lynch, they could have used those opportunities to get the kills,

 

on that logic and knowing i am not scum,

 

and i make this selection simply on a 50/50 coin flip.

 

Vote: Imran

No lynch votes do not inherently favor scum. Doing so now would favor scum. We had hoped to buy time for the cop to get some results to claim but the scum got lucky and killed him.

 

iSoc has been very quiet through Day 2 and no posts yet Day 3 (though I hadn't posted today yet either until now.)

 

It seemed oddly convenient that other than the posts at the beginning of the day where Imran attempted to paint himself as a townie which initiated an argument he disappeared until the end of the day and then dropped a "sorry Ive been busy with IRL". Entirely possible but seems a little odd.

 

Voting early on no information helps scum immensely if you are town. If you vote a townie they can both bandwagon the vote through, which will guarantee them a win.

With the gov in play I doubt the scum will try to bandwagon on in a mislynch.

 

 

 

 

 

so no lynch favors the scum and we have seen Zacch and Imran both vote for no lynch, they could have used those opportunities to get the kills, 

 

on that logic and knowing i am not scum, 

 

and i make this selection simply on a 50/50 coin flip. 

 

Vote:  Imran

No lynch votes do not inherently favor scum. Doing so now would favor scum. We had hoped to buy time for the cop to get some results to claim but the scum got lucky and killed him. 

 

iSoc has been very quiet through Day 2 and no posts yet Day 3 (though I hadn't posted today yet either until now.) 

 

It seemed oddly convenient that other than the posts at the beginning of the day where Imran attempted to paint himself as a townie which initiated an argument he disappeared until the end of the day and then dropped a "sorry Ive been busy with IRL". Entirely possible but seems a little odd.

 

Voting early on no information helps scum immensely if you are town. If you vote a townie they can both bandwagon the vote through, which will guarantee them a win. 

 

 

The governor role is still in play, we just have never hit the vote threshold to hammer anyone yet so that role has been negated by inactivity.

 

But if Scum did bandwagon and that resulted in a hammer, the governor could step in during twilight to stop it.

 

 

You are both correct, I've been misremembering the Governor role for some reason thinking it was a one time claim to get a extra vote role (which is mayor iirc.) My bad for being incorrectly alarmist about the early vote.

 

 

 

so no lynch favors the scum and we have seen Zacch and Imran both vote for no lynch, they could have used those opportunities to get the kills, 

 

on that logic and knowing i am not scum, 

 

and i make this selection simply on a 50/50 coin flip. 

 

Vote:  Imran

No lynch votes do not inherently favor scum. Doing so now would favor scum. We had hoped to buy time for the cop to get some results to claim but the scum got lucky and killed him. 

 

iSoc has been very quiet through Day 2 and no posts yet Day 3 (though I hadn't posted today yet either until now.) 

 

It seemed oddly convenient that other than the posts at the beginning of the day where Imran attempted to paint himself as a townie which initiated an argument he disappeared until the end of the day and then dropped a "sorry Ive been busy with IRL". Entirely possible but seems a little odd.

 

Voting early on no information helps scum immensely if you are town. If you vote a townie they can both bandwagon the vote through, which will guarantee them a win. 

 

I have not claimed busy in RL this game.

 

Day two, there was not much to glean or talk about, so no reason to post fluff.

 

Going back through the days, you really haven't added much besides being a mirror to what Imran is posting.

 

My reference to claiming being busy IRL was in reference to Imran, which is why that sentence refers to Imran. I try to skip lines when I'm moving to my next point, so the fact that the previous sentence was about you was not supposed to inform the topic of the next sentence. I understand most people do not post in that format, so it isn't inherently obvious.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by being a mirror to what Imran is posting? I was pretty active and involved in the discussions on D2. I understand you may have missed most of that discussion since you didn't really participate on D2, but it seems a bit odd to now go back after you've been missing from all discussion and accuse me of not having "added much".

 

I am still waiting on clarification from NE regarding his vote on me.

 

Going back to my earlier post, based on catains posts on D2, I am going to say cap investigated either me or isoc on N1 and came out with town result. With godfather in game this doesn't confirm anything but we can assume the other scum is one of NE, Cod or Zacch.

 

I would like to hear others thoughts on this.

Can you point to what posts make you feel this way?

 

 

I already game a summary on my post on 13th, I will post  here again in detail. Basically cap is the only one who knew something on D2, so instead of lynching blindly in a LYLO situation my point is to go for the lynch based on his posts on D2.

 

1. 1st post "Obvious? I'm not so sure, but it does give us something to talk about" -> this againt my assumption that scum may have killed LS because he and I voted for each other on D1. Not much to say here but from this post it can be said even thought he thought it unlikely, he was open to the possibility that I suggested.

 

2. 2nd post "While I am happy that others agree with my statements, I find it very curious that they followed me like an easy to follow bandwagon..." This in response to posts from COD and NE basically saying the same thing as what he said, that it was a stretch to assume the reason for LS kill. iSoc and Zacch posted it was more likely LS was killed because he is an actiove player.

 

3. 3rd post "Hold up, just another "lazy" observation, but if there is a mislynch today, doesn't mafia win?" in response to Zacch saying COD made a "lazy" assumption. Seems to be he is agreeing with Zacch here.

 

4. 4th post "I agree and I'm leaning that way myself, but would like to hear a bit more before putting an official vote. Actually, NE, where did Zaach point the finger at you, I can't seem to recall." Here he mentioned he is leaning towards voting for Zacch but he also asked from clarification from NE.

 

5. Final post "Are we going to have any more opinions or responses in the next 14 hours? Inactivity always favors scum and I don't want to see that happen." Seems like he is wighing whether to vote for Zacch or hold back.

 

So from his posts I would say he got a town result on N1 investigation as he did not come out strongly for voting for anyone and at the end decided not to vote to lynch Zacch as well (he had 1 vote from NE on him at that point). He was suspicious of COD and NE trying to bandwagon with him (2nd post) but he said nothing regarding iSoc who was inactive apart from his 1st post. So my "assumption" is he did not investigate Zacch, COD or NE on N1, as he was suspicious of their posts. If he had investigated them and found them to be town he would not be suspicious. He was suspicious of Zacch but did not hammer him, which indicates he did not investigate Zacch on N1. He made no post about iSocs inactivity being suspicious, which might indicate he investigated him and found him to be town. He also raised the point of NE and COD trying to bandwagong with him about my post, which may indicate he invetigated me on N1 and found town and he was wary of scum trying to bandwagon on to someone whose result came up town. 

 

So my point is if he investigated me/isoc on N1 and found town, even taking into consideration of the Godfather, it is very likely that there is at least 1 scum in one of NE, Zacch or CoD if not both.

 

 

Its more than possible in any of those three (3) instances, he could have been trying to bait scum out by presenting false suspicion of someone he knew was town to see if anyone would try to bandwagon. Especially with a Governor Role in play who could protect town against a quick hammer by scum. 

 

This is also a possibility but I think unlikely. Even if he came up with a town result he will not be 100% confident because he may have investigated the godfather. So the other scum would not obviously rush to lynch his partner. 

36 Hours till deadline.

 

NE has on consecutive days cast early votes to lynch without much detail into his logic for doing so and then proceeded to disappear for the rest of the day. On day 2 he voted for me, his logic was that I fos'd him and then fos'd cap and then voted no lynch. When pressed to provide examples for these fos's, he disappears for the rest of the day.

 

On day 3 he votes early and admits it was a coin flip, again when pressed on his logic, he disappears for the rest of the day (I'm sure he will conveniently show up today or right before deadline now that I'm calling him out).

 

It also feels like he's playing differently than he has played in previous games, something feels off. We know he's not the most experienced player, but he could be using that perception to his advantage. I feel like anyone else playing like this would have drawn a lot more suspicion for their early votes and disappearing afterwards. 

 

In my opinion, NE is either the Governor (trying to bait a bandwagon) or Scum.

 

If nothing changes by deadline, I will be voting for NE.

I am still waiting on clarification from NE regarding his vote on me.

 

Going back to my earlier post, based on catains posts on D2, I am going to say cap investigated either me or isoc on N1 and came out with town result. With godfather in game this doesn't confirm anything but we can assume the other scum is one of NE, Cod or Zacch.

 

I would like to hear others thoughts on this.

it was simply that, 

i believe, it has benefitted the scum role by having a no lynch- assuming their kills have been used at this point it is safe to say those advocating for no-lynch are likely scum, i identified 2 player who could very well be scum ( time will tell) and then i selected one of them , 

i subsequently i am targeted by that person it would confirm they are in fact scum. and i was correct. 

 

as Zacch has singled me out - it would indicate my logic is sound, he as well as my previous vote would make sense. 

 

as for my absence- we have been having storms and the power /internet has been down, 

on a good note- the skiing will be fabulous this weekend, 38 inches of snow cover on the double diamonds , 55 inches at the peak. 

 

https://www.stowe.com/

 

I am still waiting on clarification from NE regarding his vote on me.

 

Going back to my earlier post, based on catains posts on D2, I am going to say cap investigated either me or isoc on N1 and came out with town result. With godfather in game this doesn't confirm anything but we can assume the other scum is one of NE, Cod or Zacch.

 

I would like to hear others thoughts on this.

it was simply that, 

i believe, it has benefitted the scum role by having a no lynch- assuming their kills have been used at this point it is safe to say those advocating for no-lynch are likely scum, i identified 2 player who could very well be scum ( time will tell) and then i selected one of them , 

i subsequently i am targeted by that person it would confirm they are in fact scum. and i was correct. 

 

as Zacch has singled me out - it would indicate my logic is sound, he as well as my previous vote would make sense. 

 

as for my absence- we have been having storms and the power /internet has been down, 

on a good note- the skiing will be fabulous this weekend, 38 inches of snow cover on the double diamonds , 55 inches at the peak. 

 

https://www.stowe.com/

 

 

We had a no lynch because only two people voted. And that no lynch is the reason why it is 3v2 right now and not 2v2.

 

I don't think you understand what 2v2 means..

 

 

i believe, it has benefitted the scum role by having a no lynch- assuming their kills have been used at this point it is safe to say those advocating for no-lynch are likely scum, i identified 2 player who could very well be scum ( time will tell) and then i selected one of them , 

 

The No lynch scenario turned out bad because the scum got lucky and killed the cop. If the cop was alive on D3, that would have meant he could have claimed today and at worst identified 2 towns and at best identified one scum. If he had 2 town results from N1 and N2, that would mean today we would have one confirmed cop and 2 possible townies (with one maybe a godfather in masquerade). That would have left 2 unconfirmed with 50% chance of one being scum. 

 

If he had identified 1 scum, that would be the clear lynch for today and we would be up 3 town vs 1 scum with the remaining scum being the godafther. At that point the use of the cop would have ended.

 

So the logic of no lynching on D2 was sound. The scum had 1 out 4 chance of hitting the cop and unluckily they did. Its very easy to say on hindsigth how that was a bad decision of no lynching, while of the same hand if we mislynched on D2, that scenario may also not have been a good one.

 

I am not sure if you are ignoring all the above logics or you are just intentionally acting dumb to justify your vote, buit time is over and you are onb my short-list for possible scum anyway.

 

Vote: NE 

36 Hours till deadline.

 

NE has on consecutive days cast early votes to lynch without much detail into his logic for doing so and then proceeded to disappear for the rest of the day. On day 2 he voted for me, his logic was that I fos'd him and then fos'd cap and then voted no lynch. When pressed to provide examples for these fos's, he disappears for the rest of the day.

 

On day 3 he votes early and admits it was a coin flip, again when pressed on his logic, he disappears for the rest of the day (I'm sure he will conveniently show up today or right before deadline now that I'm calling him out).

 

It also feels like he's playing differently than he has played in previous games, something feels off. We know he's not the most experienced player, but he could be using that perception to his advantage. I feel like anyone else playing like this would have drawn a lot more suspicion for their early votes and disappearing afterwards. 

 

In my opinion, NE is either the Governor (trying to bait a bandwagon) or Scum.

 

If nothing changes by deadline, I will be voting for NE.

 

Not much has changed, deadline is approaching..

 

Vote: NE

Vote count:

Northern Empire (2): Imran Ehsan, Zacch,
Imran Ehsan (1): Northern Empire,
Zacch (0):
Chaplain of Death (0):
iSocialism (0):

No-lynch (0):

 

Northern Empire, 1-shot Governor, has been lynched.

Mafia (Imran Ehsan, Zacch) win the end-game.

 

Game over!

Imran was the Godfather, Zacch was the Goon.

 

Day 1: No Lynch

Night 1: Captainjf investigates iSocialism, Mafia kill LordSunday

Day 2: No Lynch

Night 2: Captainjf tries to investigate Zacch, but is killed by the mafia.

Day 3: Northern Empire is lynched.

...

Night 3: Mafia would kill a townie, making it 1:2 for town:mafia

Day 4: Mafia would vote to lynch remaining townie.

I thouhgt the deadline was tomorrow, and was hoping on to vote for Imran..... and then i see that Mafia won.

 

GJ on Zachh, you were number 4 on my scum list, Imran.. shame

I had guessed the complete opposite at the end game there....

GJ on Zachh, you were number 4 on my scum list, Imran.. shame

 

pfftt...I again convinced you to not vote for me...lol 

 

 

Night 2: Captainjf tries to investigate Zacch, but is killed by the mafia.

 

We guessed this would happen. We figured out captain is most likely the cop from Day 2 and would try to investigate Zacch.  

NE had figured us out, but luckily for us, couldn't push the wagons.

 

Sometimes the hard part is not figuring out who is scum, but convincing your fellow town members to vote for them.

With the final vote, I was worried that the governor would vote to lynch to start twilight, but we got lucky that our wagon was on the governor, negating that outcome.

What made you assume I was cop? I thought I was just being an active townie for once...

What made you assume I was cop? I thought I was just being an active townie for once...

 

Active but somewhat reserved in your approach. Almost like you were scouting for night targets instead of leading a wagon.

 

We both thought you were a power role, governor or cop, we got lucky and you turned out to be the cop.

Ugh....Like I said, inactivity only favors scum like you!!

Ugh....Like I said, inactivity only favors scum like you!!

 

Yup

 

Thats why I believe no lynch should only be day 1, and anyone fails to vote on day 2 or later should be mod killed.

sorry guys, 

we had back to back snow storms and then a massive wind and rain event, 36 to 50 inches of snow  and then rain and flooding to wipe it all out,