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[KH-30] Overturn to Riddler - MAFIA Wins

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Hold up, just another "lazy" observation, but if there is a mislynch today, doesn't mafia win?

 

No Lynch and Scum Lynch will keep us alive, mislynch will give mafia the win (eventually baring inactivity).

No lynch gives the cop another night to find scum. If nothing changes.....

 

Vote: No Lynch

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Vote count:

Imran Ehsan (0):

Zacch (0):

Captainjf (0):

Chaplain of Death (0):

iSocialism (0):

Northern Empire (0):

 

No-lynch (1): Zacch,

 

Not voting: Imran Ehsan, Chaplain of Death, Northern Empire, iSocialism, Captainjf,

 

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch, or 2 at deadline.

Deadline is Saturday, December 9, at 12:00 EST.

 

 

Hold up, just another "lazy" observation, but if there is a mislynch today, doesn't mafia win?

 

No Lynch and Scum Lynch will keep us alive, mislynch will give mafia the win (eventually baring inactivity).

No lynch gives the cop another night to find scum. If nothing changes.....

 

Vote: No Lynch

 

1) point the finger at Captain? 

2) point the finger at me/ 

3) Vote - no lynch? 

Interesting? 

 

 

it may be thin but that's about all it takes in this game, 

 

Vote- Zacch

 

 

Hold up, just another "lazy" observation, but if there is a mislynch today, doesn't mafia win?

 

No Lynch and Scum Lynch will keep us alive, mislynch will give mafia the win (eventually baring inactivity).

No lynch gives the cop another night to find scum. If nothing changes.....

 

Vote: No Lynch

 

1) point the finger at Captain? 

2) point the finger at me/ 

3) Vote - no lynch? 

Interesting? 

 

 

it may be thin but that's about all it takes in this game, 

 

Vote- Zacch

 

 

I agree and I'm leaning that way myself, but would like to hear a bit more before putting an official vote.

Actually, NE, where did Zaach point the finger at you, I can't seem to recall.

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Vote count:


Zacch (1): Northern Empire,
Imran Ehsan (0):
Captainjf (0):
Chaplain of Death (0):
iSocialism (0):
Northern Empire (0):

No-lynch (1): Zacch,

Not voting: Imran Ehsan, Chaplain of Death, iSocialism, Captainjf,

 
With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch, or 2 at deadline.
Deadline is Saturday, December 9, at 12:00 EST.
 
 

 

 

 

Hold up, just another "lazy" observation, but if there is a mislynch today, doesn't mafia win?

 

No Lynch and Scum Lynch will keep us alive, mislynch will give mafia the win (eventually baring inactivity).

No lynch gives the cop another night to find scum. If nothing changes.....

 

Vote: No Lynch

 

1) point the finger at Captain? 

2) point the finger at me/ 

3) Vote - no lynch? 

Interesting? 

 

 

it may be thin but that's about all it takes in this game, 

 

Vote- Zacch

 

 

I agree and I'm leaning that way myself, but would like to hear a bit more before putting an official vote.

Actually, NE, where did Zaach point the finger at you, I can't seem to recall.

 

Zacch simply pointed out that NE seemed to be attempting to remove themself from the group you were referring to when you said multiple people "bandwagoned" onto your opinion by referring to that group as "They" insinuating that they were not part of that group when they were.

 

I'm leaning Zacch's way on this one that it was a fairly obvious observation and that making something of it would be a little bit suspicious. Its hard to say if CJF was attempting to do so, or just putting it out there as something he found suspicious, which I believe is fair enough though nothing worth drawing any real suspicions on by itself. NE's response in attempting to remove themself from the group that CJF F.O.S.'d and then putting a vote on Zacch for pointing out that odd behavior is of far more note to me than anything else so far today. I don't have a good read on NE as a player so it's hard for me to place if this is scum behavior or errant townie behavior. Also how do you point to his vote for no lynch with his stated reasoning for voting no lynch despite having some suspicions as a suspicious behavior. A mislynch leads to scum win so Zacch voted accordingly so as not to end the game early when the town has another day to gather information, and yet you use that as reasoning to back up a vote on him?

 

I'm not putting a vote down yet for the same reason Zacch voted no lynch, but I'm HEAVILY F.O.S.ing on NE right now, and the fact that CJF is "leaning that way" is of concern to me as well.

Are we going to have any more opinions or responses in the next 14 hours? Inactivity always favors scum and I don't want to see that happen

 

Apologies, first time checking in since Wednesday night, got absolutely wasted at the company Christmas party last night, still really hung over. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hold up, just another "lazy" observation, but if there is a mislynch today, doesn't mafia win?

 

No Lynch and Scum Lynch will keep us alive, mislynch will give mafia the win (eventually baring inactivity).

No lynch gives the cop another night to find scum. If nothing changes.....

 

Vote: No Lynch

 

1) point the finger at Captain? 

2) point the finger at me/ 

3) Vote - no lynch? 

Interesting? 

 

 

it may be thin but that's about all it takes in this game, 

 

Vote- Zacch

 

 

I agree and I'm leaning that way myself, but would like to hear a bit more before putting an official vote.

Actually, NE, where did Zaach point the finger at you, I can't seem to recall.

 

Zacch simply pointed out that NE seemed to be attempting to remove themself from the group you were referring to when you said multiple people "bandwagoned" onto your opinion by referring to that group as "They" insinuating that they were not part of that group when they were.

 

I'm leaning Zacch's way on this one that it was a fairly obvious observation and that making something of it would be a little bit suspicious. Its hard to say if CJF was attempting to do so, or just putting it out there as something he found suspicious, which I believe is fair enough though nothing worth drawing any real suspicions on by itself. NE's response in attempting to remove themself from the group that CJF F.O.S.'d and then putting a vote on Zacch for pointing out that odd behavior is of far more note to me than anything else so far today. I don't have a good read on NE as a player so it's hard for me to place if this is scum behavior or errant townie behavior. Also how do you point to his vote for no lynch with his stated reasoning for voting no lynch despite having some suspicions as a suspicious behavior. A mislynch leads to scum win so Zacch voted accordingly so as not to end the game early when the town has another day to gather information, and yet you use that as reasoning to back up a vote on him?

 

I'm not putting a vote down yet for the same reason Zacch voted no lynch, but I'm HEAVILY F.O.S.ing on NE right now, and the fact that CJF is "leaning that way" is of concern to me as well.

 

 

I agree with everything CoD said in his post, I don't know if NE misunderstood the point I was making or if he just doesn't understand the consequences of a mislynch today. No lynch keeps town alive and gives the cop one more night to find scum.

 

A mislynch today, makes it 2v2 on day 3 and depending on what roles are taken out on day 2 and night 2, could leave us vanilla with no chances of finding scum (cop killed) or stopping a day 3 vote blitz by scum (governor killed), don't forget its only 2 at deadline. 

 

We don't really have anything go on, no cop results from night 1 (we have to assume the cop's results from night 1 were town), no super scummy posts, other than what I'm going to assume for now as NE being a noob. If we lynch anyone today, it would be a shot in the dark with the odds favoring scum 4:2 and the consequences of shooting wrong potentially handicapping or making it impossible for us to win (baring inactive scum at night). 

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Vote count:

Zacch (1): Northern Empire,

Imran Ehsan (0):

Captainjf (0):

Chaplain of Death (0):

iSocialism (0):

Northern Empire (0):

 

No-lynch (1): Zacch,

 

Not voting: Imran Ehsan, Chaplain of Death, iSocialism, Captainjf,

 

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch, or 2 at deadline.

Deadline is Saturday, December 9, at 12:00 EST.

 

 

I am OK with a No Lynch specially with the Cop still in play. Also I am not in a mind to force a lynch now and possibly having the Governor reveal himself. 

 

sorry for the late post, RL was busy the last couple of days.

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Day 2 ends.

Vote count:


Zacch (1): Northern Empire,
Imran Ehsan (0):
Captainjf (0):
Chaplain of Death (0):
iSocialism (0):
Northern Empire (0):

No-lynch (1): Zacch,

Not voting: Imran Ehsan, Chaplain of Death, iSocialism, Captainjf,

 
Nobody is lynched.

It is now Night 2.

Please send all actions by Monday, December 11 at 23:00 EST.
 

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Night 2 ends.

Captainjf, Sane Cop, has been killed in the night.

It is now Day 3.

Vote count:


Zacch (0):
Imran Ehsan (0):
Chaplain of Death (0):
iSocialism (0):
Northern Empire (0):

No-lynch (0):

Not voting: Imran Ehsan, Chaplain of Death, iSocialism, Northern Empire, Zacch,

 
With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch, or 2 at deadline.

Deadline is Sunday, December 17 at 21:00 EST.
 

Well, no lynching to give the cop time to find scum backfired spectacularly.

 

I wonder if they got a lucky shot and hit the cop or if capt had left some clue in his earlier posts that gave him away.

With no lynch wagons to go in and no info going to be forthcoming from cop, we have no choice but to analyze caps posts on D2 and see if there are any clues there.

 

1. First he was concerned with the quick "bandwagon" of COD and NE with his post.

2. Next we posted he was leaning towards voting for Zacch

3. He wanted clarifcation from NE on his post that Zacch had pointed his finger at him

4. From his last post, it seemed like he would cast a vote before deadline, but at the end did not and let the day end with no lynch.

 

It seems clear he did not find scum from his N1 investigation or he would have come out more strongly against identified scum, if not outright fingered him. It seems clear he did not investigate Zacch or he wouldnt have been leaning towards voting him. Also possible he did not investigate COD or NE as he questioned their moves.

 

points to note:

1. NE did not reply to caps question and ignored it

2. Zacch seemed to have been on caps radar for scum but him not voting for him at end of day seems to indicate he did not have confirmation

3. isoc had only 1 post on D2 and had no more participations for the day.

 

I think we have reached a LYLO situation now, 3 town, 2 scum. A mislynch today ends the game. But no lynching means no wagons and nothing to go on again on D4 with dead cop. So we need hit scum with lynch today.

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Vote count:


Zacch (0):
Imran Ehsan (0):
Chaplain of Death (0):
iSocialism (0):
Northern Empire (0):

No-lynch (0):

Not voting: Imran Ehsan, Chaplain of Death, iSocialism, Northern Empire, Zacch,

 
With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch, or 2 at deadline.

Deadline is Sunday, December 17 at 21:00 EST.
 

The lack of posting is going to make this very difficult. Do we assume that people who post once a game day are scum trying to lay low or are they just inactive town? Outside of my vote for no-lynch and NE's vote for me, nobody else voted yesterday. When 80% of the participants are not even voting, what information do we even have to go off of?

 

We are two (2) real days into Day 3 and outside of Imran's post nobody else has contributed to the discussion in a meaningful way. The lack of discussion is going to make today's vote a crap shoot.

so no lynch favors the scum and we have seen Zacch and Imran both vote for no lynch, they could have used those opportunities to get the kills, 

 

on that logic and knowing i am not scum, 

 

and i make this selection simply on a 50/50 coin flip. 

 

Vote:  Imran

so no lynch favors the scum and we have seen Zacch and Imran both vote for no lynch, they could have used those opportunities to get the kills, 

 

on that logic and knowing i am not scum, 

 

and i make this selection simply on a 50/50 coin flip. 

 

Vote:  Imran

No lynch votes do not inherently favor scum. Doing so now would favor scum. We had hoped to buy time for the cop to get some results to claim but the scum got lucky and killed him. 

 

iSoc has been very quiet through Day 2 and no posts yet Day 3 (though I hadn't posted today yet either until now.) 

 

It seemed oddly convenient that other than the posts at the beginning of the day where Imran attempted to paint himself as a townie which initiated an argument he disappeared until the end of the day and then dropped a "sorry Ive been busy with IRL". Entirely possible but seems a little odd.

 

Voting early on no information helps scum immensely if you are town. If you vote a townie they can both bandwagon the vote through, which will guarantee them a win. 

so no lynch favors the scum and we have seen Zacch and Imran both vote for no lynch, they could have used those opportunities to get the kills,

 

on that logic and knowing i am not scum,

 

and i make this selection simply on a 50/50 coin flip.

 

Vote: Imran

Apart from you no one voted to lynch on D2. Only Zach voted no lynch. COD and cap also withheld from voting and isoc disappeared. However it's interesting that you are singling me out only.

 

 

so no lynch favors the scum and we have seen Zacch and Imran both vote for no lynch, they could have used those opportunities to get the kills,

 

on that logic and knowing i am not scum,

 

and i make this selection simply on a 50/50 coin flip.

 

Vote: Imran

No lynch votes do not inherently favor scum. Doing so now would favor scum. We had hoped to buy time for the cop to get some results to claim but the scum got lucky and killed him.

 

iSoc has been very quiet through Day 2 and no posts yet Day 3 (though I hadn't posted today yet either until now.)

 

It seemed oddly convenient that other than the posts at the beginning of the day where Imran attempted to paint himself as a townie which initiated an argument he disappeared until the end of the day and then dropped a "sorry Ive been busy with IRL". Entirely possible but seems a little odd.

 

Voting early on no information helps scum immensely if you are town. If you vote a townie they can both bandwagon the vote through, which will guarantee them a win.

With the gov in play I doubt the scum will try to bandwagon on in a mislynch.

so no lynch favors the scum and we have seen Zacch and Imran both vote for no lynch, they could have used those opportunities to get the kills, 

 

on that logic and knowing i am not scum, 

 

and i make this selection simply on a 50/50 coin flip. 

 

Vote:  Imran

 

No lynch yesterday favored town. If we had mislynched yesterday it would be 2v2 today and scum could have come out the gate with 2 votes to win the game (first to 2 votes gets lynched at deadline).

 

No lynch yesterday has kept us alive for one more day.

 

Do you not understand that fact?

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Vote count:

Imran Ehsan (1): Northern Empire,

Zacch (0):

Chaplain of Death (0):

iSocialism (0):

Northern Empire (0):

 

No-lynch (0):

 

Not voting: Imran Ehsan, Chaplain of Death, iSocialism, Zacch,

 

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch, or 2 at deadline.

 

Deadline is Sunday, December 17 at 21:00 EST.

I will also confirm that in the event of a tie at deadline the first to get the votes gets lynched.

(In a previous game, I announced it would be random)

 

I sort the vote count by tie breaks.

 

so no lynch favors the scum and we have seen Zacch and Imran both vote for no lynch, they could have used those opportunities to get the kills, 

 

on that logic and knowing i am not scum, 

 

and i make this selection simply on a 50/50 coin flip. 

 

Vote:  Imran

No lynch votes do not inherently favor scum. Doing so now would favor scum. We had hoped to buy time for the cop to get some results to claim but the scum got lucky and killed him. 

 

iSoc has been very quiet through Day 2 and no posts yet Day 3 (though I hadn't posted today yet either until now.) 

 

It seemed oddly convenient that other than the posts at the beginning of the day where Imran attempted to paint himself as a townie which initiated an argument he disappeared until the end of the day and then dropped a "sorry Ive been busy with IRL". Entirely possible but seems a little odd.

 

Voting early on no information helps scum immensely if you are town. If you vote a townie they can both bandwagon the vote through, which will guarantee them a win. 

 

 

The governor role is still in play, we just have never hit the vote threshold to hammer anyone yet so that role has been negated by inactivity.

 

But if Scum did bandwagon and that resulted in a hammer, the governor could step in during twilight to stop it.

 

so no lynch favors the scum and we have seen Zacch and Imran both vote for no lynch, they could have used those opportunities to get the kills, 

 

on that logic and knowing i am not scum, 

 

and i make this selection simply on a 50/50 coin flip. 

 

Vote:  Imran

No lynch votes do not inherently favor scum. Doing so now would favor scum. We had hoped to buy time for the cop to get some results to claim but the scum got lucky and killed him. 

 

iSoc has been very quiet through Day 2 and no posts yet Day 3 (though I hadn't posted today yet either until now.) 

 

It seemed oddly convenient that other than the posts at the beginning of the day where Imran attempted to paint himself as a townie which initiated an argument he disappeared until the end of the day and then dropped a "sorry Ive been busy with IRL". Entirely possible but seems a little odd.

 

Voting early on no information helps scum immensely if you are town. If you vote a townie they can both bandwagon the vote through, which will guarantee them a win. 

 

I have not claimed busy in RL this game.

 

Day two, there was not much to glean or talk about, so no reason to post fluff.

 

Going back through the days, you really haven't added much besides being a mirror to what Imran is posting.

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