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[Lysistrata]

Many on the left have decided they cannot win on the issues.

They can't win on the issues because they are wrong on the issues.

We try our best to reach an understanding with them.

To tame their worst impulses.

The USA is a Constitutional Republic.

Our Constitution lays out what power the Federal Government has.

More important, it lays out what power the Federal Government does not have.

The left does not understand this form of government.

They believe... to their core... that the Constitution is obsolete.

They believe that they can change things however they wish.

Disregard the way things are done since our founding, because it will make them feel good.

This is what divides us.

 

When the left can't change something, they try to break it.

If they can break it, they have a chance to rebuild it the way they want to be.

They used to hate millionaires... until they became millionaires themselves.

Now they changed into hating billionaires now.

They can't stand anyone having more than they do... it's that evil Constitution.

They tried to break everything by not enforcing immigration law.

We're fixing that too... in fact, we're fixing everything so fast they can't keep up.

When the left can't keep up... they start losing their minds.

 

Now they want us dead.

Charlie Kirk would have been the Governor of Arizona.

He probably would be President someday.

He was extremely good at convincing young people that the American way is the best way.

Some Leftist, Socialist, Communist, Progressive, Democrat... murdered him yesterday.

We're not going to be so nice about things from now on... maybe decades.

I don't think I will live long enough to forgive them for this one.

[KevinH]

Well said!

[Krammer]

R.I.P Charlie..May his beautiful family find peace. Very well said.

[Lysistrata]

My wife told me this morning that the shooter was living with a tranny.

I asked her where she heard that, and she told me she read it on Breitbart.

I asked her if she had heard it from anyone like Bill Hemmer, Martha McCallum, or Bret Baier?

She said no, and I said I won't believe it until I do... why are we not surprised?

Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin lived with transgender partner who is now cooperating with FBI: Officials | Fox News

[Reilstrap]

Your language used in the last comment just shows me the calibre of the kind of people that loved Charlie.

[Lysistrata]

I have heard about what the UK Government is doing to people that say things they don't like.

I have also heard that those people are doing something about it.

September 13TH The Day We Rise Official Anthem for the UK Rally in London

Raise The Colours (Make Britain Great Again)

It’s Time We Take Back Britain | Powerful Patriotic Anthem 2025

The Lion Still Roars (Folk Version) - British spirit lives on despite corrupt politicians - YouTube

WARNING This Song Causes GOOSEBUMPS & Tears - We Won't Back Down (Powerful Anthem) - YouTube

Raise The Colours Patriotic Rock Official Music Video - Ulfhednar AImusic 

Let it be known that this American from Las Vegas Nevada USA stands with my British cousins in their fight.

I am so very proud of them, and I don't give a rats ass how you feel about my language.

[Reilstrap]

Yeah that's 100% what i expected

[Imran Ehsan]

I would like to post a reminder to keep conversations clean and respectful here. Everyone is free to have their own views and post them openly here, but deragoratory terms and slurs towards any group is not allowed.
 
I would like to refer to the IRON's third Commandment here in this regard:
 

3. Thou shall respect others race, sex, religion, color, creed or nationality.
The Republic is a very diverse group. Respect your IRON brother.

 

 

Specifically, the term "tranny" is not acceptable. Please refer to wiki description provided below.
 

Tranny is a derogatory slur for a transgender person,[1] often specifically a transgender woman.[2]

 

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

[Northern Empire]

Charlie Kirk a peaceful god fearing family man gets assassinated

A man who loved his fellow human beings and his country, 

Zero Dollars in Property Damage, 

Zero Cities Burned,

Zero Lives lost, 

Nations around the world hold peaceful vigils involving hundreds of thousands of human beings. 

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George Floyd - 

A 2 time felon with multiple violent assaults to his name attacks a police offer and attempts to kill the officer

Liberals burn cities to the ground in protest

10's of millions in property damage, 

47 deaths attributed to the violence

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this is the divide we have in America Today

 

one side loves family, God and country. 

 

the other side hates everything America has bult hates all of humanity that disagree with them, 

and wishes hurt and pain on all that do not comply with their twisted sense of selfishness, 

[Bryan93]

I don’t think this is really about “sides.” MOST Americans, regardless of politics, care about family, faith, and country in their own ways. When we reduce everything to one side being good and the other being evil, we stop seeing each other as fellow citizens. The real challenge is figuring out how to work through differences without assuming the worst of people who disagree.

[Lysistrata]

I don’t think this is really about “sides.”

You played the bipartisan card. It doesn't work on me... I'm a gambler... and you just showed me your hand.

This is what Democrats say when they're losing. Charlie Kirk was assassinated by a Democrat that wasn't on his side.

It's always about sides. Anyone that runs for Congress and says it's not about sides, never makes it past the primaries.

It's been all about sides in this country since Thomas Jefferson decided that John Adams should not be President.

When you said "It's not about sides"... I knew exactly what side you're on. It's okay, but please don't shoot anyone.

[Bryan93]

Another over generalization of a person you never met or even had a convo with (please don’t shoot anyone). That’s like me saying I hope you always get your way, please don’t go storming the capitol or go blowing up a govt being. There are extremist on both sides who I’m sure even you would say go to far.

And before you make any assumptions, I don’t condone the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Dude who killed him with get the death penalty. I’m an American just like you , and support all the rights and privileges of being American. And would love to hear your views on different issues going on right now in the US

Hopefully you’ll agree with me on this..there are idiots on both sides…

[Lysistrata]

Hopefully you’ll agree with me on this..there are idiots on both sides…

So, now it's about sides. Didn't take much did it?

 

The issue isn't the idiots... there are always idiots. The issue is the idiots that are elected, or appointed, to positions of power.

 

The positions of power that affect the lives of millions of people.

 

Democrats have elected, or appointed, way too many idiots to positions of power. Our side is in the process of fixing that.

 

Elected idiots are harder to get rid of. Appointed idiots are easy, but Democrats love to try to tie things up in court with appointed Judges.

 

Democrats are wanting to stop us, or at least, slow the bleeding. So now they want to open debate. It's an old tactic... nothing gets done during debate. Our side is done debating. We're getting rid of the idiots. Democrats panic and start shooting.

 

It's happened before. Democrats start shooting... and then they get their ass kicked. History repeats because idiots don't learn it.

[Reilstrap]

As Donald trump once said "smart people don't like me"

[Chaplain of death]

I don't know why people are so upset about it. He said he thought it was worth it to have some gun deaths every year in order to have the second amendment. Bro put his money where his mouth was.

[Lysistrata]

I don't know why people are so upset about it. He said he thought it was worth it to have some gun deaths every year in order to have the second amendment. Bro put his money where his mouth was.

So, you're saying that anyone that supports those old obsolete pieces of paper called the U.S. Constitution deserve to be killed?

[Chaplain of death]

 

I don't know why people are so upset about it. He said he thought it was worth it to have some gun deaths every year in order to have the second amendment. Bro put his money where his mouth was.

So, you're saying that anyone that supports those old obsolete pieces of paper called the U.S. Constitution deserve to be killed?

 

I said no such thing. I said he espoused an ideal that some gun deaths are an acceptable sacrifice in order to maintain our second amendment right. I'm not celebrating his death nor martyring the man.

Many on the left have decided they cannot win on the issues. They can't win on the issues because they are wrong on the issues. We try our best to reach an understanding with them. To tame their worst impulses.

 

I can't and won't speak for the "left" as a whole, as the "left" you speak of encompasses many different opinions and values don't align with your own. To claim that there is a universal position of such a wide ranging group other than their disdain of Trump would be a lie.

In my own case from conversations previously held on this forum as well as conversations I've had IRL, its not a matter of "cannot 'win' on the issues". I have found that most debates break down immediately because neither side trusts the others sources. We try to discuss and instead we fight about how each sides media sources are in fact propaganda machines. Most often I find that while those on the left continue to try to engage in that conversation those on the right take that stalemate and instead of considering for one moment that Fox news is lying to them they declare themselves victorious and that the 'lib' is just an upset 'snowflake' for continuing to try to engage in the debate. If that's y'all's idea of trying to reach an understanding its no wonder there have been so many shootings in this country. 

I don't know what "worst impulses" you're referring to here but you are choosing to infantilize anyone who doesn't align with your own political views. Do you really view yourself as so superior? That mindset could not be more antithetical to the ideals this nation is built on.

[Lysistrata]

I said no such thing.

Yes, you did. I watched the clip you posted, and the glaring thing that is missing is the question he was answering.

 

Democrats will do anything to abolish the 2nd Amendment... ANYTHING. It's the number one wish on their list. It's not about the children. It's not about mass shootings. It's not about any shootings at all. They really don't care about people.

 

They care about changing the Government, and they can't do that under the U.S. Constitution.

 

If they can change the Government, they can make the people do whatever they wish them to do. The question was obviously from a Democrat that was declaring that gun deaths are enough of a reason to abolish the 2nd Amendment.

 

The 2nd Amendment protects the Constitution from destruction.

 

Mr. Kirk was defending the Constitution... because the 2nd Amendment is the absolute most important part of it.

You wanted to make a joke that he deserved it. I don't think it was funny.

[Chaplain of death]

 

I said no such thing.

Yes, you did. I watched the clip you posted, and the glaring thing that is missing is the question he was answering.

 

Democrats will do anything to abolish the 2nd Amendment... ANYTHING. It's the number one wish on their list. It's not about the children. It's not about mass shootings. It's not about any shootings at all. They really don't care about people.

 

They care about changing the Government, and they can't do that under the U.S. Constitution.

 

If they can change the Government, they can make the people do whatever they wish them to do. The question was obviously from a Democrat that was declaring that gun deaths are enough of a reason to abolish the 2nd Amendment.

 

The 2nd Amendment protects the Constitution from destruction.

 

Mr. Kirk was defending the Constitution... because the 2nd Amendment is the absolute most important part of it.

You wanted to make a joke that he deserved it. I don't think it was funny.

 

I posted a clip of him speaking. I said nothing of him deserving what happened. I said nothing of abolishing the 2nd amendment. Are you projecting? Am I missing something here?

The constitution actually provides for "changing" the government through amendments, therefore under the constitution that can make changes to the government but again claiming a unified desire across such a wide group that is "everything left of here" is folly. 

[Lysistrata]

3/4 of the states would never repeal the 2nd, so you're only hope is to get the entire thing as a whole scrapped.

I have been pushing for decades for a Constitutional Convention of States to put the whole issue to rest.

Democrats know they will lose so they won't commit. They want to keep the issue alive to keep their followers engaged.

 

Super majority in the Supreme Court is what you really want... that's a little out of reach currently.

 

My wish is to see Democrats cut so deep in blue states that anyone that has money will leave them to their own misery.

Maybe we will see how that works when that Communist takes over New York City... yeah, it's still a Republic.

Wall Street may find a new home in Nashville or Miami... or Las Vegas! We seem to attract all the sports teams.

 

The Schumer Shutdown is the bonehead move of the year... you know Trump will never cave.

Non-essentials will lose their jobs from entire non-essential Federal departments suddenly becoming non-existent.

 

It's a glorious time to be an American!