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[CanucksDynasty]

There wasn't suspicion on me the day before anyway either by Narsis or KevinH. If anything, the mafia must have wanted to implicate either Narsis or me.

Anyway, I don't have any leads or alternative suspect to offer since this game has lost momentum for me but if I were to choose who I think are mafia, it could be anyone except for Narsis and EM, who I believe are more or less town.

That's not what I'm getting at.
It wouldn't have mattered if they were suspicious of you or not.
Since it was previously discussed to keep investigating your room partners.

Room 2 = Sir Jesus, Firkked
Room 3 = Electric Mango, AoD/SinKon, Kaziocore
Room 6 = CanucksDynasty, Aquinas, Martino
Room 9 = Falzis, Narsis, KevinH

For example...let's say KevinH was a cop.
He investigated Narsis on N1...result was townie.
On N2...he would investigate you (Falzis).
You would be exposed unless KevinH was neutralized thus he was nk.

Expand it a bit further...let's say mafia didn't know which was the cop (KevinH and Narsis).
Since you haven't been exposed on N1...you will most likely be exposed on N2.
Thus both were neutralized (ie. roleblock and nk).

That is the theory I'm working with now.
This is only IF Narsis is telling the truth about being roleblocked.

VOTE COUNT
Falzis (1): CanucksDynasty

Not Voting (9): Narsis, Electric Mango, Samus, Sir Jesus, SinKon, Falzis, Kaziocore, Aquinas, Martino

With 10 Alive, 6 is needed to lynch.

Edited by molestargazer, 27 December 2009 - 07:25 PM.

[SinKon]

1000th post.

Should we vote now?

Noooooooooooooooooo!!! I am too late...
I would've spam to get that 1,000 but that wouldn't seem fair, but I really should've.
Congrat Samus for getting the big one thousand, I believe you could post that accomplishment somewhere.
I know, I would've make a thread just for that.

Anyway, so hum:

@Mole: can we get an extention for all the goodness sake? Or, we could run the King Herod theme and kill all the first born! /sinkon winks at Sir Jesus

[SinKon]

Well... if you really need a vote for the holiday...

Vote: Santa Claus

[Narsis]

hmm...at this point i dont really have a specific suspect. but what CD says does make sense...sorta. it is heavily laden with WIFOM. but at this point there isnt much better...

so Vote: Falzis

[SinKon]

hmm...at this point i dont really have a specific suspect. but what CD says does make sense...sorta. it is heavily laden with WIFOM. but at this point there isnt much better...

so Vote: Falzis

Of course, you do realized that if Falzis turns out to be a townie, you will be next.

Piggyback ride~

Vote: Falzis

[SinKon]

Sorry mol,

unvote

Vote: Falzis

[Narsis]

Of course, you do realized that if Falzis turns out to be a townie, you will be next.

Piggyback ride~

Vote: Falzis

actually, i'm fully expecting to be nk'd tonight.

[CanucksDynasty]

actually, i'm fully expecting to be nk'd tonight.

Not if the doc protects you.

[Narsis]

Not if the doc protects you.

true...assuming there is a doc.

personally i'm going to plan for the worst...

[CanucksDynasty]

true...assuming there is a doc.

personally i'm going to plan for the worst...

I'm assuming there is one.
I'm also assuming you to be the cop.

IF you aren't the cop then my vote on Falzis is way off base.

[Martino]

Of course, you do realized that if Falzis turns out to be a townie, you will be next.

Piggyback ride~

Vote: Falzis

That sure sounds convenient doesn't it? You get to jump on a banwagon without adding any reasons, or even acknowledging the reasons given by CD and Narsis. So if Falzis turns out to be a townie you get to wash your hands clean of the lynch and you already got your next target lined up.

vote: SinKon

Now CD's logic does make some sense. But then you could also wonder if the mafia would want to draw this much attention to a room with one of their players in it. I mean, if someone else but Narsis and KevinH turns out to be the cop, they would not only draw the attention to Falzis, but at the same time another of their members would be discovered in another room.

[Martino]

I'm assuming there is one.
I'm also assuming you to be the cop.

IF you aren't the cop then my vote on Falzis is way off base.

Why? I understood your case to be based on the assumption that the mafia thought that either KevinH or Narsis was the cop. Whether or not the mafia was right, does not really seem to matter for your case.

[Narsis]

Why? I understood your case to be based on the assumption that the mafia thought that either KevinH or Narsis was the cop. Whether or not the mafia was right, does not really seem to matter for your case.

QFT. doesnt matter whether i'm a cop or not. as long as the mafia thought i was a cop.

[CanucksDynasty]

Why? I understood your case to be based on the assumption that the mafia thought that either KevinH or Narsis was the cop. Whether or not the mafia was right, does not really seem to matter for your case.

True...if Falzis is mafia...it would make things alot simpler.

I'm just trying to figure out if it was all really a ploy by mafia to set those 2 up (like Falzis suggested).
Or if mafia really did believe Narsis to be a doc.
Or if they thought Narsis was the cop and KevinH was the doc.

I'm running so many scenarios in my head and it's hard to keep track.

[CanucksDynasty]

Now CD's logic does make some sense. But then you could also wonder if the mafia would want to draw this much attention to a room with one of their players in it. I mean, if someone else but Narsis and KevinH turns out to be the cop, they would not only draw the attention to Falzis, but at the same time another of their members would be discovered in another room.

If a cop is in another room then it would be fair to say that the cop didn't find mafia in his room.
(assuming that the cop would have investigated his roommates).

[SinKon]

That sure sounds convenient doesn't it? You get to jump on a banwagon without adding any reasons, or even acknowledging the reasons given by CD and Narsis. So if Falzis turns out to be a townie you get to wash your hands clean of the lynch and you already got your next target lined up.

Thats right.

[Aquinas]

True...if Falzis is mafia...it would make things alot simpler.

I'm just trying to figure out if it was all really a ploy by mafia to set those 2 up (like Falzis suggested).
Or if mafia really did believe Narsis to be a doc.
Or if they thought Narsis was the cop and KevinH was the doc.

I'm running so many scenarios in my head and it's hard to keep track.

Something to consider is why the mafia would take out KevinH and leave Falzis to be such an obvious target. Why didn't they kill on Night 1? They didn't because they didn't want to have an obvious scum lynch target the next day. So, if thats what they were trying to avoid then why would they allow for it to happen day 2? I don't see why they would throw all their cards on the table to take out KevinH who they may have considered as a possible doctor or cop without anything concrete to suggest it.

I'll also echo what Martino said about SinKon's vote rationale. However, SinKon won't be getting my vote just yet. I find SinKon to be a little....squirrely, but not real scummy. I think hes distracting and a little out there but, I don't think it has a malicious intent for now.

[Sir Jesus]

That sure sounds convenient doesn't it? You get to jump on a banwagon without adding any reasons, or even acknowledging the reasons given by CD and Narsis. So if Falzis turns out to be a townie you get to wash your hands clean of the lynch and you already got your next target lined up.

vote: SinKon

Now CD's logic does make some sense. But then you could also wonder if the mafia would want to draw this much attention to a room with one of their players in it. I mean, if someone else but Narsis and KevinH turns out to be the cop, they would not only draw the attention to Falzis, but at the same time another of their members would be discovered in another room.

Yeah, I noticed that too ... You can't vote for Santa until someone picks a person.

For the lack of a better candidate...

Vote: SinKon

[Falzis]

I'll stick with my D2 vote. Reasons are the same, all over the place posting and recently bandwagoning.

Vote: Sinkon

[SinKon]

Well... if you guys really need a reason, although I think piggyback ride is a good enough reason, under the current circumstance, Narsis also think he will be targeted, so I will give a fuller explanation for my vote.

It is obvious to me that we have to verify if Narsis is the cop and not a mafia playing cop, so it is also obvious for me to vote for whoever he votes for. Lets face it, he will be protected tonight by the doctor, if there is a roleblocker, then there must be a doctor, so he will definitely be alive the next day. Then, we will be in the same situation all over again, "is he really a cop?' was that WIFOM? Can I really trust him? Was he just trying to escape from a lynch by being in the same room as Falzis?

If Narsis is a mafia playing cop, and there is no doctor, then we definately need to find out fast. Do you want to find out latter and get into another debate of should we trust Narsis? The answer will always be YES! since he COULD be the cop.

We wouldn't be in this situation if Narsis didn't role claim, by intention or by mistake.
Then again, although this part is also obivous to me, if Narsis is the cop, Falzis is a mafia.