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[Electric Mango]

I need to analyize a few things before giving a more thoughtful post. I do tend to feel that we are rushing into todays lynch. We were all inactive for a while and now that we've been prodded we've jumped up to 6 votes already. Are people just voting for the sake of voting?

I'd like to hear the theory that Samus has.

VOTE COUNT
Falzis (3): CanucksDynasty, Narsis, SinKon
SinKon (3): Martino, Sir Jesus, Falzis

Not Voting (4): Electric Mango, Samus, Kaziocore, Aquinas

With 10 Alive, 6 is needed to lynch.

Edited by molestargazer, 27 December 2009 - 07:27 PM.

[CanucksDynasty]

Yeah, I noticed that too ... You can't vote for Santa until someone picks a person.

For the lack of a better candidate...

Vote: SinKon

That's almost as bad as SinKon's vote on Falzis.

FOS: Sir Jesus

[CanucksDynasty]

Well... if you guys really need a reason, although I think piggyback ride is a good enough reason, under the current circumstance, Narsis also think he will be targeted, so I will give a fuller explanation for my vote.

It is obvious to me that we have to verify if Narsis is the cop and not a mafia playing cop, so it is also obvious for me to vote for whoever he votes for. Lets face it, he will be protected tonight by the doctor, if there is a roleblocker, then there must be a doctor, so he will definitely be alive the next day. Then, we will be in the same situation all over again, "is he really a cop?' was that WIFOM? Can I really trust him? Was he just trying to escape from a lynch by being in the same room as Falzis?

If Narsis is a mafia playing cop, and there is no doctor, then we definately need to find out fast. Do you want to find out latter and get into another debate of should we trust Narsis? The answer will always be YES! since he COULD be the cop.

We wouldn't be in this situation if Narsis didn't role claim, by intention or by mistake.
Then again, although this part is also obivous to me, if Narsis is the cop, Falzis is a mafia.

So basically you think Narsis is the cop and thus are following his advice.
You should have explained this before earning the heat you are getting now.

[CanucksDynasty]

Voting patterns....


D1 VOTE COUNT
crazyemolad (6): Falzis, Narsis, Sir Jesus, Kaziocore, KevinH, SinKon
SinKon (4): CanucksDynasty, Electric Mango, Aquinas, Firkked
Falzis (1): Junkahoolik

Not Voting (2): crazyemolad, Martino


D2 VOTE COUNT
junkahoolik (4): Martino, Firkked, Aquinas, Kaziocore
SinKon (4): Falzis, CanucksDynasty, Narsis, Sir Jesus
KevinH (2): Electric Mango, SinKon
Sir Jesus (1): KevinH
Narsis (1): Junkahoolik

[Samus]

That sure sounds convenient doesn't it? You get to jump on a banwagon without adding any reasons, or even acknowledging the reasons given by CD and Narsis. So if Falzis turns out to be a townie you get to wash your hands clean of the lynch and you already got your next target lined up.

vote: SinKon

Now CD's logic does make some sense. But then you could also wonder if the mafia would want to draw this much attention to a room with one of their players in it. I mean, if someone else but Narsis and KevinH turns out to be the cop, they would not only draw the attention to Falzis, but at the same time another of their members would be discovered in another room.

This makes sense.

Vote: SinKon

[Aquinas]

Yeah, I noticed that too ... You can't vote for Santa until someone picks a person.

For the lack of a better candidate...

Vote: SinKon

I'm not impressed. You turned around and voted for him in just the same manor you accused him of being scummy for. Also, taking a look at the vote counts for the past couple days I am aware of the fact we have seen Falzis, Narsis and then Sir Jesus vote the same candidate in that order. If we have some kind of special God Father rule for scum this would make sense for a scum vote order. If I were to vote for Falzis at this point it'd do more harm than good for me. Without a doubt I'd be tagged as a bandwagon voter since we're already comming down on people for that. I also still want to believe Narsis is a townie and if I had to pick between Falzis Narsis and Sir Jesus to be townie it'd be Narsis.

Vote: Sir Jesus

He voted for SinKon alleging the same reasons he accused SinKon with being scummy. Also, he seems to be bandwagon voting with a highly suspected scum. He just did it again locking in a vote on SinKon just after Falzis voted for SinKon.

FOS: Falzis

[Aquinas]

EBWOP: SirJesus voted AFTER Falzis today but, the connection is still there.

[CanucksDynasty]

I'm not impressed. You turned around and voted for him in just the same manor you accused him of being scummy for. Also, taking a look at the vote counts for the past couple days I am aware of the fact we have seen Falzis, Narsis and then Sir Jesus vote the same candidate in that order. If we have some kind of special God Father rule for scum this would make sense for a scum vote order. If I were to vote for Falzis at this point it'd do more harm than good for me. Without a doubt I'd be tagged as a bandwagon voter since we're already comming down on people for that. I also still want to believe Narsis is a townie and if I had to pick between Falzis Narsis and Sir Jesus to be townie it'd be Narsis.

Vote: Sir Jesus

He voted for SinKon alleging the same reasons he accused SinKon with being scummy. Also, he seems to be bandwagon voting with a highly suspected scum. He just did it again locking in a vote on SinKon just after Falzis voted for SinKon.

FOS: Falzis

That's funny cuz I was thinking almost along the same lines.
I was think it might be Sir Jesus, Falzis and one other.


Unofficial Vote Count
Falzis (3) - CanucksDynasty, Narsis, SinKon
SinKon (4) - Martino, Sir Jesus, Falzis, Samus
Sir Jesus (1) - Aquinas

Not Voting (2) - Electric Mango, Kaziocore

[CanucksDynasty]

This makes sense.

Vote: SinKon

Would you care to add more than just that?
This is bandwagoning as well.

[Falzis]

I'm not impressed. You turned around and voted for him in just the same manor you accused him of being scummy for. Also, taking a look at the vote counts for the past couple days I am aware of the fact we have seen Falzis, Narsis and then Sir Jesus vote the same candidate in that order. If we have some kind of special God Father rule for scum this would make sense for a scum vote order. If I were to vote for Falzis at this point it'd do more harm than good for me. Without a doubt I'd be tagged as a bandwagon voter since we're already comming down on people for that. I also still want to believe Narsis is a townie and if I had to pick between Falzis Narsis and Sir Jesus to be townie it'd be Narsis.

Vote: Sir Jesus

He voted for SinKon alleging the same reasons he accused SinKon with being scummy. Also, he seems to be bandwagon voting with a highly suspected scum. He just did it again locking in a vote on SinKon just after Falzis voted for SinKon.

FOS: Falzis

If you really believe I'm scum you'd vote for me even if it makes you look like a bandwagoner. Too much concern with appearances tend to make you not pro-town.

SJ voted BEFORE me, I voted AFTER him. Anyway, my reasons aren't flimsy and they still stand. Go pore through the pages on the past day. As I said, since I have no much lead to go on to, I'm sticking with my vote on the previous day who belonged to Sinkon. The reasons are much the same and if you look at his post right after Narsis pseudo role claims it looks very scummy as it looks like he is quite sure of Narsis' impending death and what nots.

SJ also has my suspicions because of his wagon vote though.

ALSO, why is the concern in the room where Narsis and I belong? Room placements have no connection any more with how mafia kills if I remember correctly. Plus CD's conspiracy theory still rests on TWO MAJOR assumptions - that Narsis is telling the truth and that Mafia wanted to deflect suspicion off on me ASSUMING still that I am also Mafia. The former I would tend to agree but the latter, hell no. I wasn't even suspected of on the previous day.

LASTLY, I'm tired of giving Narsis a free pass. I can't believe how people are buying the line that he didn't role claim. I don't like how people accepted his backtracking when pressed further.

[Narsis]

LASTLY, I'm tired of giving Narsis a free pass. I can't believe how people are buying the line that he didn't role claim. I don't like how people accepted his backtracking when pressed further.

i dont want a free pass either. however what have i done that is scummy? and is that enough to outweigh the protown things i've done?

[Falzis]

i dont want a free pass either. however what have i done that is scummy? and is that enough to outweigh the protown things i've done?

I didn't say so. I'm just saying, we should all still be critical of each other. Although you are more likely pro-town than not, what you did in the beginning of D3 is disconcerting to say the least (the backtracking issue).

[CanucksDynasty]

@Falzis - I agree my theory is based on the assumption that Narsis is telling the truth about the roleblock.


@everyone - D3 is the only day we have left for a mis-lynch. If we get it wrong and a nk happens again...then we be down to 8 people left (ie. 5 town, 3 mafia). Meaning on D4..it's lynch or lose (LYOL). So we need to get it right.

[CanucksDynasty]

i'm a she. -.-

Still reading though, I have a lil suspicion on someone but haven't finalized it yet.

Care to share your suspicion?
You voted SinKon without much of a reason other than "This makes sense".

[CanucksDynasty]

This is in the correct order of how votes were placed....

D1 VOTE COUNT
crazyemolad (6): Kaziocore, KevinH, SinKon, Sir Jesus, Narsis, Falzis
SinKon (4): CanucksDynasty, Electric Mango, Aquinas, Firkked/Samus
Falzis (1): Junkahoolik

Not Voting (2): crazyemolad, Martino


D2 VOTE COUNT
junkahoolik (4): Martino, Firkked/Samus, Aquinas, Kaziocore
SinKon (4): Falzis, CanucksDynasty, Narsis, Sir Jesus
KevinH (2): Electric Mango, SinKon
Sir Jesus (1): KevinH
Narsis (1): Junkahoolik

CURRENT D3 VOTE COUNT
Falzis (3) - CanucksDynasty, Narsis, SinKon
SinKon (4) - Martino, Sir Jesus, Falzis, Samus
Sir Jesus (1) - Aquinas

Not Voting (2) - Electric Mango, Kaziocore

[SinKon]

So basically you think Narsis is the cop and thus are following his advice.
You should have explained this before earning the heat you are getting now.

Ah, but if explained it in detail before and being all reasonable, then you would know I make sense without giving much though. Isn't this more fun?

Also, I didn't see any reason why I need to explain anything, because I though it is obvious that we should follow the cop or at least verify that Narsis is the cop, after he basically roleclaim. If you think just 1 more day ahead, you will see why but then the mafias are just focused on getting pass the day right?

Firkked voted for me before and gave me a FOS for having a druken-fist-style posting, but I kinda like that description and try to live up to its name. However Samus being so new, should not have the same personality as Firkked, and voted for me. That alone is suspicious and I am calling her out! from the others who are voting for me now.

FOS: Samus

[CanucksDynasty]

Let's look at D1 voting pattern...SinKon (4): CanucksDynasty, Electric Mango, Aquinas, Firkked/Samus
At one point SinKon had the most votes (5 votes before SJ switched) prior to crazyemolad getting lynched.
What does that tell us...that those 4 should have no links to SinKon.

Let's look at D2 voting pattern...SinKon (4): Falzis, CanucksDynasty, Narsis, Sir Jesus
Narsis and SJ voted for SinKon after junkahoolic took the lead of getting lynched. It could have swung either way.
So again 3 more to the list that should have no ties to SinKon.

Current D3 voting...SinKon (4) - Martino, Sir Jesus, Falzis, Samus
SinKon leads the lynch count...so it would appear Martino as well does not have a link to SinKon.

CanucksDynasty, Electric Mango, Aquinas, Firkked/Samus, Narsis, Falzis, Sir Jesus, Martino have no ties to SinKon.
That's 8 people that in past days that would have likely lynched SinKon.
That's way too many townies then...especially since we are down to 10 people left.

Thus...I'm now believing SinKon to be a townie and not mafia.

Is my reasoning flawed??

[SinKon]

Its not flawed, its just make me feel bad.

[Kaziocore]

Let's look at D1 voting pattern...SinKon (4): CanucksDynasty, Electric Mango, Aquinas, Firkked/Samus
At one point SinKon had the most votes (5 votes before SJ switched) prior to crazyemolad getting lynched.
What does that tell us...that those 4 should have no links to SinKon.

Let's look at D2 voting pattern...SinKon (4): Falzis, CanucksDynasty, Narsis, Sir Jesus
Narsis and SJ voted for SinKon after junkahoolic took the lead of getting lynched. It could have swung either way.
So again 3 more to the list that should have no ties to SinKon.

Current D3 voting...SinKon (4) - Martino, Sir Jesus, Falzis, Samus
SinKon leads the lynch count...so it would appear Martino as well does not have a link to SinKon.

CanucksDynasty, Electric Mango, Aquinas, Firkked/Samus, Narsis, Falzis, Sir Jesus, Martino have no ties to SinKon.
That's 8 people that in past days that would have likely lynched SinKon.
That's way too many townies then...especially since we are down to 10 people left.

Thus...I'm now believing SinKon to be a townie and not mafia.

Is my reasoning flawed??

I'm sorry I don't get it :[

[SinKon]

I'm sorry I don't get it :[

CD is saying I am a townie because I am the most hated. Sort of hated by everyone, therefore not mafia. Don't know why he is saying that now, but we should focus on testing out Narsis.