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[Robert2424]

:/ really? 

[Electric Mango]

I hope you reconsider and don't take anything personally.

[killgor]

sad to see you go. perhaps you'll reconsider? the chance of you getting lynched is quite small at this point and there isn't really any need for emotional tantrums.

[TBRaiders]

If he isn't scum, I will feel bad but that post and the nixon pic...lol

[Imran Ehsan]

This is not a game for the thin skinned. And throwing tantrums because someone voted for them is childish. I will vote for r2v when I get to computer.

[Lyner]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now I'm more interested with this:

 

Vote: Big One

[KevinH]

Mala hierba en medio del pasto

(Weed in the middle of the grass)

 

The cemetery has grass.

Weeds come out of the grass.

 

What else comes out of the grass?

Bread! Apples! Very small rocks!

 

... and Zombies!

[killgor]

This is not a game for the thin skinned. And throwing tantrums because someone voted for them is childish. I will vote for r2v when I get to computer.

 

do you have any other reasons for voting him? cause a tantrum is hardly a reason to vote

[Ovidsidios]

 

This is not a game for the thin skinned. And throwing tantrums because someone voted for them is childish. I will vote for r2v when I get to computer.

 

do you have any other reasons for voting him? cause a tantrum is hardly a reason to vote

 

 

I'm sure the more reasonable motivations for his votes are those ambiguous assertions he will claim to have, but...

[Imran Ehsan]

 

+townie points to Big Ego for being active and contributing and posting his thoughts on other players.

 

So for the moment

 

Unvote

 

However, I am still sticking with my argument that there is a scum amongst one of the 2 new FTW guys. So I will move on to my 2nd suspect.

 

Vote: Ovidsidious

 

He fits the criteria(A) as well as Big Ego + he is lurking. His last post was on 9 March© and I have seen him read the thread since then but make no post(B ). His posts are also unrelated to the game(C1) and he has made no effort as of yet to post his thoughts on who the scum may be or how to proceed in identifying the scum(C2).

 

I everyone to put pressure on this guy and lynch him today as the other wagons are nearly not as good.

 

Re: robert's claim. I noticed he claimed to have had an action on EM, but since he made no other info known, I disregarded it. His info so far is pointless and helps the town in no way. I guess he had his reasons to reveal that he has a night action but since he is not willing to reveal it there is no point trying to push him to do so. Personally I dont see any positive to that reveal except putting up an X mark on him as a target for scum action on him. Unless he is a scum himself and is tryng to get night protective actions to be drawn his way so that his scum buddies can make a kill unimpeded.

 

 

 

From the sound of your insistency, you seem to find me deserving of a hanging because you don't like my posts (neither in content nor in form), as opposed to motioning for my execution because I have given you a reason to believe I am...how do you say...scum.

 

This is a completely false statement which conveniently ignores the reasoning I posted here. And yes that post was made when you havent posted for 5 days(B2) and before you posted your poetry(C3). You were lurking(B4) and then posted something that has nothing to do with the game(C4). The poetry is annoying because it has nothing to do with this game(C5), however that is not my reason for suspecting you.

 

 

 

So here's the breakdown:

 

"A" for ambiguity (unintentional). It will probably help your case if you explain those other qualities than lurking and post content and form you are referencing above. 

 

There is nothing ambiguous in that statement. Read this post to find out how you fit the scum criteria.

 

"B" for lurking. Now this one is easy to explain, as many of you may do the same, I leave certain tabs open. You actually think I'm reading and not posting, when in truth I'm not even living. "Well close your tabs then," you might say. "Shutup, you don't live my life". But in all honesty, if we claim ourselves logicians than we must give credence to the validity of this statement. The onus of proof would have technically fallen on you to prove what is in fact lurking. Which isn't the standing idle in a thread per se, but idling in intervals. If you find that my activity is in blocks, than it is certainly possible that I was simply idling, not lurking. 

 

Right. You happen to leave your tab open and not post for 5 days. Thats a very townie behavior. If that's not lurking please do explain how you define lurking. I am interested to hear your definition.

 

Now if you had come and said, "look, I see you lurking, but I thought maybe I could check and see statistically (provided it is possible) your activity. When I did, I found you only showed up in spikes as though you just read and logged off. Therefore, I found it sufficient to conclude that you just punched in to see what was being said (if anything) about you, and seeing yourself clear from danger, would leave (ergo scummy)."

 

Then maybe "this" point would have some merit. But brother, if it deserves credence, then it must be given its due. Now you may not like the response, but that's not what a logical person would concern themselves with. And until you show me the "lurk" (which bears with it all the negative stigma within that onus of proof), then you're just wanting to zealously lynch me (mind you this is the same behavior you exhibited on day 1; which was why I mentioned in my previous post my trouble with coping with this largely baseless passion). Which hands down is very scum behavior. 

 

You did not post for 5 days straight until I voted for you. Thats lurking. Walls of texts doesnt change that meaning.

 

"C" is for posts/content/medium of expression. Now I've gathered, from most of your gripping, that this is where the largest crux of your issues with me lies (until you clarify what "A" represents). I could understand if this were the tip of the icing, but it's not. You're trying to lynch me because of my poetry/posting/content. Which seems like the worst reason to lynch someone.

 

You may have determined it, but saying so doesnt make it so. You trying to change my accusation from my other criteria to modes of posting is noted. I have stated clearly that was not my reason for voting you, in fact my vote was before you posted your poetry and the assorted fluff thatyou think is very intelligent but is just plain annoying.

 

But let's play a little thought experiement (if this were a tl;dr, this would be it)

 

1). You have wanted since day 1 to lynch me. We can all understand day 1, so nothing personal. Mind you, nothing reasonable can ever be truly discovered unless someone truly ups and gives themselves away.

 

Again completely false statement. I did not vote for you on Day 1. Neither even commented on your posting style. Dont lie when it is very easy to go back pages and see that you are lying. Its a sign of scum.

 

2). Now day 2, you are not only forcing my lynch, but you're doing so because...

• Ambiguous reasons. I'm gonna relate block texts about how I have more reasons to vote for you, but I'm only gonna mention your posting style. It's not like I have anything to hide...
• Lurking- Because it is abundantly apparent that you are just logging on and keeping to yourself until danger arrives.
• Poetry. "Because nothing good could possibly come from poetry, and everyone who writes poems is a scum" said Count Olaf

Already explained above.

 

3). Yet, if my posting style were so inconvenient, why would your immediate reaction be to lynch me? Do not the sith deal in absolutes? Do not siths begin with the same letter as scum? Would this be ridiculous reasoning? Yet, a maphia/alien/zombies do not wish to see peaceful resolution. If amidst the chaos collateral occurs, than a maphia player has done their job well.

 

 

4). You say my poetry is worthless, but you are just one perspective (and a terrible one at that). And who are you to judge? In a game where every little detail matters, you're very quick to throw my contribution away. It's as if you don't have the patience...dare I say....content to see me go.

 

Again trying to twist the argument to something that I have clearly said was not my reason for voting. Trying to get sympathy from potery lovers to save your hide. Noted.

 

"No, no, no" you will probably claim, "this is exactly what I wanted from you..." but at what cost? Shall you save face, remove your vote, and expect me not to remember this? You came in too hard, and too fast.

 

Now I'm not a gambling man, and maybe you've done good covering your tracks, little demon, but, "You will know that I am the LORD, when I deal with you for my name's sake and not according to your evil ways and your corrupt practices..."

 

Because I am bound to the truth, and the truth has set me free. But you sir are on the road to perdition, and delude yourself in power when you are but a slave.

 

Opening your mouth to condemn me,

You have cut yourself with your own sword.

Bleeding, you will strike at me again,

Piercing your foot with ignorance,

and impaling your own self with pride.

Who continues to lunge but the desparate?

Who struggles against the impossible,

But the frightful?

 

FLUFF

 

 

My reasoning behooves me to consider you heartfully, while deeper regions of me which to send you to the hangman's noose. I am conflicted because voting for you would surely raise the awareness of those townsmen (and women) who would find my actions suspect. Yet, allowing you to live (provided you were scum), would be a negligence of the highest order. I feel like I am the priest in Alfred Hitchcock's "Confession".

 

FLUFF

 

And if you manage to convince them otherwise of my innocence, what then? Will not my death reveal the darkness of your plans? Will not the light bring revelation to your true form?

 

Has it not been said, "...for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve."

 

FLUFF

 

The problem with speaking, my child, is the danger of being misconstrued. This is especially dangerous for scum who are hung by the very webbing of their own lies. I will not consider your desire to withdraw your accusations of me suspect, but continuation is futile as the "absence of evidence is the evidence of absence".

 

FLUFF

 

 

The more you post the more scummy you look.

[Imran Ehsan]

 

 

This is not a game for the thin skinned. And throwing tantrums because someone voted for them is childish. I will vote for r2v when I get to computer.

 

do you have any other reasons for voting him? cause a tantrum is hardly a reason to vote

 

 

I'm sure the more reasonable motivations for his votes are those ambiguous assertions he will claim to have, but...

 

 

Try again.

[Spaztik Muffin]

irman you have some good points

 

unvote

 

vote ovid

[Imran Ehsan]

 

This is not a game for the thin skinned. And throwing tantrums because someone voted for them is childish. I will vote for r2v when I get to computer.

 

do you have any other reasons for voting him? cause a tantrum is hardly a reason to vote

 

 

Seems like he has given up on the game. Unless there is a replacement incoming he is just deadweight. My first preference is still to lynch the Ovidsidios who is pretty scummy but trimming dead wight is also good for the town.

[KevinH]

My vote was there before the tantrum and was weakly based on activity and day one voting.

I don't see a reason to change my vote at this time.

[Robert2424]

Now Ovid is not rhyming? So you didn't have a role restriction or did you goof? If you were faking it, You've launched your way up the scum latter. 

[Electric Mango]

Big Ego
Vote:Road2Victory

Time to start trimming some dead weight

[KevinH]

Poetry is a mirror which makes beautiful that which is distorted. ~Percy Shelley, A Defence of Poetry, 1821

[Kaziocore]

Votecount 2.10

Big Ego (1) - Lyner
Electric Mango (0) -
Imran Ehsan (0) -
iSocialism (2) - TBRaiders, Big Ego
KevinH (0) -
killgor (1) - iSocialism
Lyner (0) -
Ovidsidios (2) - Imran Ehsan, Spaztik Muffin
Preston (4) - Robert2424, killgor, KevinH, Electric Mango
Robert2424 (1) - Preston
Spaztik Muffin (0) -
TBRaiders (0) -

Not Voting (1) - Ovidsidios

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to reach majority and 4 to reach half-majority.
Preston is the current wagon leader at L-3
Deadline is Monday, March 23rd, 2015 @ 19:20 EDT

Preston replaces Road2Victory

I'll extend the deadline by a day.

[iSocialism]

Well, things are going to start to get pretty interesting now.

[Imran Ehsan]

Welcome Preston!