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[Antoine Roquentin]

If Mandarijn is a cop, did he use his night action on anyone and find anything?

[Canik]

If Mandarijn is a cop, did he use his night action on anyone and find anything?

He claimed to be a 2-shot role cop I believe. So he's out of shots.

[Lyner]

Roq is a weak doctor? sweet

 

Roq, confirm it for me: Did you target Mand last night?

 

Because I can confirm that Roq is a true doctor

 

I'm a voyeur and on the first night I peeked at Imran, the result is: there is a 'Protection' given to Imran

 

So far only Roq claimed he targetted Imran last night so I'm pretty sure he is not lying

 

 

 

 

That means:

Roq, Mand, Canik, and Kevin are confirmed, plus me of course

 

The top 7 most posters are all towns, meh

 

 

 

I can confirm that Yehom is a tracker too, I did nothing last night because my power is limited

[Finster Baby]

I'm not sure who I believe and who I don't believe right now.

Yehom's actions on this day are suspicious to me. "I'm done with this game" doesn't = townie to me.

Also Lyner: Activity doesn't equate out to Townie only.

VOTE: Yehom

[Canik]

Roq, confirm it for me: Did you target Mand last night?

Yeah he already said he did. So unfortunately you can't use that to really prove something. Your claim does sound pretty sincere though.

A little curious how you can confirm 3 things (Imran's protection, Mand's, and Yehom's tracking).. but have limited powers. There have been 4 nights, so can't be even and odd. Guess there could be some other kind of unusual modifier, just noting that this is a tad curious.

[Antoine Roquentin]

Roq is a weak doctor? sweet

 

Roq, confirm it for me: Did you target Mand last night?

 

Because I can confirm that Roq is a true doctor

 

I'm a voyeur and on the first night I peeked at Imran, the result is: there is a 'Protection' given to Imran

 

So far only Roq claimed he targetted Imran last night so I'm pretty sure he is not lying

 

 

 

 

That means:

Roq, Mand, Canik, and Kevin are confirmed, plus me of course

 

The top 7 most posters are all towns, meh

 

 

 

I can confirm that Yehom is a tracker too, I did nothing last night because my power is limited

 

Yes, I targeted Mandarijn.

[Canik]

I'm not really feeling voting for Yehom. His frustration doesn't prove anything, people get frustrated in Mafia all the time.

His vote history also proves very little, and other proven townies have very similar records. iSocialism, your own record is just as bad if not worse. If we assumed Lyner is town, then you voted for townies every day past Day 1. Even voting for me yesterday instead of Rhizo.

My suspect list:

1) iSocialism - for being defensive of Rhizo from the start all the way to the bitter end/voting town every day/gut feelings

2) Robert/Avater - for being active at times but overall extremely quiet and unhelpful.

3) Rafay/FB - mostly just gut feelings. Rafay is a little too quiet IMO. FB is erratic. Both seem like they could be struggling with what to do as scum.

4) Lyner/Yehom - Both made claims and seem decently town to me, but both claims seem to follow already shared info which could be rather easily faked by scum. So they still make the list, but are at the bottom.

Mand, Kevin and Roq I am very certain are all town. (and myself of course)
 

[iSocialism]

I'm not really feeling voting for Yehom. His frustration doesn't prove anything, people get frustrated in Mafia all the time.
His vote history also proves very little, and other proven townies have very similar records. iSocialism, your own record is just as bad if not worse. If we assumed Lyner is town, then you voted for townies every day past Day 1. Even voting for me yesterday instead of Rhizo.
My suspect list:
1) iSocialism - for being defensive of Rhizo from the start all the way to the bitter end/voting town every day/gut feelings
2) Robert/Avater - for being active at times but overall extremely quiet and unhelpful.
3) Rafay/FB - mostly just gut feelings. Rafay is a little too quiet IMO. FB is erratic. Both seem like they could be struggling with what to do as scum.
4) Lyner/Yehom - Both made claims and seem decently town to me, but both claims seem to follow already shared info which could be rather easily faked by scum. So they still make the list, but are at the bottom.
Mand, Kevin and Roq I am very certain are all town. (and myself of course)
 

Care to show me how I was defending rhiz from the start.

[Lyner]

 

Roq, confirm it for me: Did you target Mand last night?

Yeah he already said he did. So unfortunately you can't use that to really prove something. Your claim does sound pretty sincere though.

A little curious how you can confirm 3 things (Imran's protection, Mand's, and Yehom's tracking).. but have limited powers. There have been 4 nights, so can't be even and odd. Guess there could be some other kind of unusual modifier, just noting that this is a tad curious.

 

 

Yehom's tracking said I didn't do anything last night, of course I know that I didn't do anything last night

 

I checked Imran on the first night, and no about Mand it's just to confirm Roq's statement since it's not a clear one

 

Now you know what I mean by 'I got something, sort of'. It's useless to claim that I saw a protection before today, yet that information is pretty vital today. I'm a bit disappointed yesterday after Roq claimed since I don't know what to do with my info, but now since I know he is weak doctor, that means everyone he checked is confirmed town, I can further validate Roq's claim as a town doc.

 

 

For the non believer, I kind of prepared for this on day 2, I specifically gave an advice for the doctor, hinting that I know there is a doctor.

Note that King Hitler quoted 'Protection' instead of specific role like Doctor or Bodyguard, and I answered Doctor instead of 'Protection' role. I figured that if a protection is used on the first night it should be a doctor, since a bodyguard blindly targetting on the first night without concrete infos isn't a good move.

[Rafay]

Rafay is a little too quiet IMO.

 

That's just me every game really. Trying to contemplate on who to vote next.

 

Why did Kev vote for Avater btw? 

[Mandarijn]

Unvote Yehom

I haven't read everything yet, but he seems town at the moment.

[Finster Baby]

Rafay is a little too quiet IMO.

 
That's just me every game really. Trying to contemplate on who to vote next.
 
Why did Kev vote for Avater btw?

Inactive more than likely. That's always Kevin's MO.

[The Warrior]

Vote Count

 

Yehom (2): iSocialism, Finster Baby
Avater (1): KevinH

Canik (0):
Finster Baby (0):
iSocialism (0):
KevinH (0):
Lyner (0):
Mandarijn (0):
Rafay (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Roquentin (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Avater, Canik, Lyner, Mandarijn, Rafay, Robert2424, Roquentin, Yehom

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at update (deadline).
Update (deadline) is Tuesday, May 31st, at 10:00am CN Server Time.

[Mandarijn]

 

 

Confirmed Town: Canik(since I didn't die when I used protect on him), me

 

We could safely assume most Rhizo voters were town since the Mafia likely wouldn't vote for the godfather.

What do you mean you didn't die when you protected him. I don't think protecting a scum would cause a town doctor to die if that is what your suggesting.

 

Also Rhiz dodge the two previous days, it would only be time that he would be lynched. Scum might vote for their own, but it would be all. It also wouldn't be early on.

 

 

I'm a Weak town doctor, so if I target scum with protection I would die, so add Mandarijn to that list.

 

Why didn't you tell us from the start you're a weak Doctor?

[Mandarijn]

@Lyner: What modifier do you have on your role and what was/were the other result(s) you got so far?

 

@Yehom: Are you a Tracker or Follower?

[Yehom]

@Yehom: Are you a Tracker or Follower?

 

Follower

 

Also I think that Lyner's list is pretty much what is confirmed at this point. This means that of the other 5 people (Avater, Finster, Isoc, Rafay and Robert) there should be maybe 3/4 mafia. My question now is: do we use Roq as a scouting tool or is his healing ability more useful to us now? If Roq announces in advance who he's going to protect and he dies, we know who is scum, but we'll lose 2 people in the next night, so it is a bit of a risk. Can we afford that at this point in the game?

[Mandarijn]

@Canik: What info do you have to share from your role, as you're pretty much a confirmed townie now as well? (You don't have to role claim if you have an important role that's still usefull. But please share any info you can)

 

@TW: Can you ping Robert and Avater again?

 

 

@Yehom: Are you a Tracker or Follower?

 

Follower

 

Also I think that Lyner's list is pretty much what is confirmed at this point. This means that of the other 5 people (Avater, Finster, Isoc, Rafay and Robert) there should be maybe 3/4 mafia. My question now is: do we use Roq as a scouting tool or is his healing ability more useful to us now? If Roq announces in advance who he's going to protect and he dies, we know who is scum, but we'll lose 2 people in the next night, so it is a bit of a risk. Can we afford that at this point in the game?

 

Yeah, I've thought about that as well. I would say he should put 3 names every day of who he might protect (2 should be pretty much confirmed townies) and pick one then, if he happens to die. We know who's scum. For example: "I'm going to protect Mandarijn, Canik or XX"

 

I'm going trough some posts now and it seems Finster, Rafay, Robert and/or Avater are scum. iSoc is the 5th one, but I'm getting the feeling he might be town. Although in the previous games were he was town, he was way less active than this game, so this might also be an indication he's scum.

I'm pretty sure all scums are between those 5 though, so anyone that wants to clear his name, it's your chance now to give us intel!

[The Warrior]

Robert was pinged again last night. I'll try and connect with Avater.

[Lyner]

I'm odd voyeur

 

On the third day I peeped AbT and got the result 'Watched'

 

Either it's scum or it's CoD, pretty much useless unless others can complement my info

 

 

 

Even though we can use Roq's ability to find out which are scum, I think it'd be better to use it to protect confirmed townies, since if he got a scum then he'd die

 

If we lynch another townie today, Roq targetted a scum, and Scums killed another one, it'd mean 3 deaths and might risk the town losing tomorrow

 

 

Moreso, if we make Roq state who he is going to protect, and tomorrow he died, we can never know if he was killed by his weak modifier or by scum.

 

Unless there is another protection role to save Roq I'd say it's not a good strategy

 

 

 

 

I'd say FB/Avater/Rafay is a good candidate for today's lynch

[Canik]

Care to show me how I was defending rhiz from the start.

Looking back at when the wagon started on Rhizo. Looks like you said nothing at first, then about half-way into the wagon you say

"Go ahead and try to fight this, by calling me scum, find some random
thing and say I'm siding with rhiz, when I'm not. I'm siding with not
using BS to push a vote.

This whole I think so and so is scum, and the best choice, but I'm
going to vote for another guy because he has more votes. This is getting
old. Therefore,

Let's the game begin.

Vote Imran"

http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/56759-tw-01-cybernations-mafia-day-5/?p=854996

Which was May 12th, so for a long time you did side with Rhizo and against townies.

Though I will say in your defense, you also were rather defensive of Lyner. (jokes that he is always scum aside) And it seems Lyner is more than likely town now. This shows you were at least consistent in being cautious towards joining wagons. You also encouraged giving me the benefit of the doubt early, but I dismissed it then was worried it could be scum trying to butter me up.

So upon farther review, I am slightly less suspicious of you. But the steadfast defense of Rhizo and terrible voting record are reason to be wary of you IMO. I hope you understand. Since you are active though and do make some posts that provide at least some helpful insight, I am thinking it would be better of me to put those suspicions aside from now and move to the next on my list.

I withhold my vote for the moment tho, want to give Robert/Avater a chance to speak.

Yehom's tracking said I didn't do anything last night, of course I know that I didn't do anything last night I checked Imran on the first night, and no about Mand it's just to confirm Roq's statement since it's not a clear one Now you know what I mean by 'I got something, sort of'.

Ah okay, thanks for clearing that up. Still question the wisdom of indicating your role so early. I was able to guess you role due to that.. but it appears you probably are town after all. Glad I didn't get you lynched.

And things did work out alright, so maybe it was a good move. I believe it was Kevin earlier who said there is no one right way to play Mafia and that is true. Though some things are less debatable than others, like Vanilla Town should scum hunt and not care so damn much about their own life. To me that was a rather damning scum tell on Rhizo. Which is why the 'Backup' theory he proposed gave me some pause.

[/ramblings]

@Canik: What info do you have to share from your role, as you're pretty much a confirmed townie now as well? (You don't have to role claim if you have an important role that's still usefull. But please share any info you can)

I don't have anything to share. My role isn't investigative. I'd role claim but I think it'd just benefit scum.

Even though we can use Roq's ability to find out which are scum, I think it'd be better to use it to protect confirmed townies, since if he got a scum then he'd die

I agree with Lyner on this strategy. We've already narrowed down the potential scum, but we're not far from losing due to town deaths. So survival > investigation.