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[Mandarijn]

Yehom, on 24 May 2016 - 16:34, said:

I could care less at this point. I prefer mafia played live. Can't keep up with all the posts, especially after a busy weekend where everybody and their mother decide to post everything. I'll clear Lyner's name for what it is worth somewhat. He did nothing last night

So you're a tracker or follower? Can you post all results you've got so far, as there's no point in not telling us everything you know now you've basicly role claimed..?

Lyner, on 24 May 2016 - 16:33, said:

 

Mandarijn, on 24 May 2016 - 16:28, said:

 

Lyner, on 24 May 2016 - 16:27, said:

Yehom just shoot up in the scum list with that one post

 

 

 

Also Mandarijn, why did your result of Rhizo turns out as 'Vanilla', instead of 'Godfather'?

No idea You have to ask TW that, he probably decided to do it that way?

 

 

Think of how it could result like that or you'd be the top scum on the list today

 

@Mod: If a Role Cop targets Godfather, will it result as 'Vanilla' or 'Godfather'?

Woot? You think I'm lying about the result I got? Why the hell would I do that?

[Yehom]

COD is dead (person before me followed him), got nothing on him, same with Lyner 

[Mandarijn]

Yehom, on 24 May 2016 - 16:40, said:

COD is dead (person before me followed him), got nothing on him, same with Lyner 

So, you're an even one and only have been able to use 2 night actions so far? COD did nothing on N2 and Lyner on N4?

[Yehom]

Yes, didn't get to see shit

[iSocialism]

Okay, this is why I stay quiet. Scum hunting early on is very hard. Once the days get longer though. There's becomes more information to analyze. I like to ride the fence, in the sense that people think that I'm scum but also think I'm town. This balance allows me to fly under the scum radar, by having the town finding me suspicious and not posing a threat to the scum. But not to low flying that the town think I'm definitely scum.

 

Here's what I got

 

TOWN

Mandi - Could have gotten lyner lynched on day 2, but chose out of the two favorable ones. To go for the inactive one. However, because I trust no one in this game. I would say, with a low chance, that he could have use kevinh early role claim. to further his "false" RC, and figure calling Rhiz VT would save both of them. Now if kevinh was to be lynched it would prove his account. This is unlikely, but unlikely works in a game of WINOF. Also the two shot usage, could have also been a ploy to stop people from furthering asking him what he found.

Roq - Claims doc, and no counters have been presented. In another unlikely events, scum could have found who the doc is, and figured it is on of the active, ex Robert, and figure it would be a good false claim, but unlikely again.

Kevin - gets creed by Mandi accounts. But the lynching of inactive and the push for the town to go that way. does not sit well with me. Only is consider town because of Mandi.

Canik -  He was the second vote on rhiz on d2. With rhiz being scum. This action early on would be really really dumb, and I don't think he is.

 

OTHERS,

 

Robert - inactive nothing to go after, but mafia normally have one guy be inactive. also in a game of 20% of inactive people, and 5 scums. with the start of ~20 players, this could mean mafia could have one inactive guy.

Rafay - quiet, but not inactive, nothing else to go after, still could be the same as above.

Avatar, was active early on, maybe RL stop him, could also be Imran attacks that made him not want to play.

FB - Been flowing the flow, not a sure scum tell, but not a good presentation for a town.

 

Top Two -

Yehom - Was on the defense for team Rhiz, COD never reported anything that I remember, so using him as doing nothing is a safe bet for a false claim. Choosing a watcher specially an odd night is also very safe. Also voted for demon over Rhiz. The Doom, who Yehom replaced, didn't also vote for the a lyner vs kaz wagon.  Though Yehom added a vote on rhiz it was the third one. which could be a ,oh, he's done, and could have try to clear his name.

 

Lyner, first all, like always when I talk about lyner. Lyner is always scum. Didn't vote for a demon vs rhiz. added the last vote for rhiz for his lynch. Didn't vote for a no-lynch on d1.

 

Yehom is my top suspect,

 

Vote Yehom

 

I will also mention that with there being 5 scums, and 1 gone. We have 4 left.  from my top two, if all are scum, that would leave two from the others list, or town list that will have to be scum. Depending on if Yehom or Lyner flips scum, and how it happens, will allow me to further divide my list apart and come up with the other suspects.

In case you guys want to see the last results on the lynch votes.

 

http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/56759-tw-01-cybernations-mafia-day-5/?p=857412

http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/56759-tw-01-cybernations-mafia-day-5/?p=855355

http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/56759-tw-01-cybernations-mafia-day-5/?p=853324

http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/56759-tw-01-cybernations-mafia-day-5/?p=850276

[Yehom]

I didn't defend Rhizo for shit. I suggested that we leave Rhizo so I could follow him the following night, but little did I know your nights work differently than what I'm used to where we start with night followed by day, therefore I thought that I had a night action, but apparently I did not, hence the bad judgment call. 

 

I'm done with this game, but that doesn't mean that I want to lose. I followed Lyner based on the suspicion of Manda. I have not and would not ever do anything based on what TheDoom had done this entire game, because he did jackshit. But apparently you either care too much about what TheDoom did in the past and want to project that on me , or you're grasping for straws. Either way I want people to keep this in mind if I do get lynched. 

[Antoine Roquentin]

Lyner, on 24 May 2016 - 16:33, said:

 

Mandarijn, on 24 May 2016 - 16:28, said:

 

Lyner, on 24 May 2016 - 16:27, said:

Yehom just shoot up in the scum list with that one post

 

 

 

Also Mandarijn, why did your result of Rhizo turns out as 'Vanilla', instead of 'Godfather'?

No idea You have to ask TW that, he probably decided to do it that way?

 

 

Think of how it could result like that or you'd be the top scum on the list today

 

@Mod: If a Role Cop targets Godfather, will it result as 'Vanilla' or 'Godfather'?

 

 

 

 

I'll also add that the reason Yehom's post look scummy is because AbT's statement is before the claim of doctor role by Roq, clear nitpicking

 

And so early in the day? Unless you have infos from last night to back your statement that was so scummy

 

 

I looked it up in a mafia wiki and that's why it happened most likely. The Mafia Godfather can give a false read to a cop. 

 

Looks like I fucked up with my protect action again since I picked Mandarijn instead of Ali. Thought they would pick Mandarijn if I picked Ali. Ali seemed too obvious.

[The Warrior]

Vote Count

 

Yehom (2): Mandarijn, iSocialism
Avater (0):

Canik (0):
Finster Baby (0):
iSocialism (0):
KevinH (0):
Lyner (0):
Mandarijn (0):
Rafay (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Roquentin (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Avater, Canik, Finster Baby, KevinH, Lyner, Rafay, Robert2424, Roquentin, Yehom

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch or 3 at update (deadline).
Update (deadline) is Tuesday, May 31st, at 10:00am CN Server Time.

[Antoine Roquentin]

Confirmed Town: Canik(since I didn't die when I used protect on him), me

 

We could safely assume most Rhizo voters were town since the Mafia likely wouldn't vote for the godfather.

[iSocialism]

Antoine Roquentin, on 24 May 2016 - 18:55, said:

Confirmed Town: Canik(since I didn't die when I used protect on him), me

 

We could safely assume most Rhizo voters were town since the Mafia likely wouldn't vote for the godfather.

What do you mean you didn't die when you protected him. I don't think protecting a scum would cause a town doctor to die if that is what your suggesting.

 

Also Rhiz dodge the two previous days, it would only be time that he would be lynched. Scum might vote for their own, but it would be all. It also wouldn't be early on.

[Antoine Roquentin]

iSocialism, on 24 May 2016 - 18:59, said:

 

Antoine Roquentin, on 24 May 2016 - 18:55, said:

Confirmed Town: Canik(since I didn't die when I used protect on him), me

 

We could safely assume most Rhizo voters were town since the Mafia likely wouldn't vote for the godfather.

What do you mean you didn't die when you protected him. I don't think protecting a scum would cause a town doctor to die if that is what your suggesting.

 

Also Rhiz dodge the two previous days, it would only be time that he would be lynched. Scum might vote for their own, but it would be all. It also wouldn't be early on.

 

 

I'm a Weak town doctor, so if I target scum with protection I would die, so add Mandarijn to that list.

[iSocialism]

The Warrior, on 22 May 2016 - 15:03, said:

Vote Count
Rhizoctonia (7): KevinH, Finster Baby, Yehom, Ali bin Turban, Rafay, Mandarijn, Lyner
Canik (2): Rhizoctonia, iSocialism
iSocialism (1): Roquentin
Ali bin Turban (0):
Avater (0):
Finster Baby (0):
KevinH (0):
Lyner (0):
Mandarijn (0):
Rafay (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Roquentin (0):
Yehom (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Avater, Robert2424

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at update (deadline).
Update (deadline) is Monday, May 23rd, at 9:00am CN Server Time.

If there are 5 scums, and rhiz was one. the people off the wagon are rob, avatar, roq, and myself. That would be the other four. There's definitely scum on the wagon. or would even say three, with that it would mean rob or avatar. Avatar was talkative and started to draw attention. Maybe they told him to be quiet.

Antoine Roquentin, on 24 May 2016 - 19:00, said:

 

iSocialism, on 24 May 2016 - 18:59, said:

 

Antoine Roquentin, on 24 May 2016 - 18:55, said:

Confirmed Town: Canik(since I didn't die when I used protect on him), me

 

We could safely assume most Rhizo voters were town since the Mafia likely wouldn't vote for the godfather.

What do you mean you didn't die when you protected him. I don't think protecting a scum would cause a town doctor to die if that is what your suggesting.

 

Also Rhiz dodge the two previous days, it would only be time that he would be lynched. Scum might vote for their own, but it would be all. It also wouldn't be early on.

 

 

I'm a Weak town doctor, so if I target scum with protection I would die, so add Mandarijn to that list.

 

@thewarrior would this be anti-town, such as mafia or SK, or anti-town by your definition.

[Antoine Roquentin]

What is the usual ratio of scum to townie? If there were 19 people to start that would make the mafia over 1/4th of the players.

[iSocialism]

Normally that's what you get.

[Yehom]

Thank you for stating that Roq, because I was going to follow Canik at the next possibility, but that's out of the window now, so you saved me another potential miss. 

[The Warrior]

iSocialism, on 24 May 2016 - 19:06, said:

 

Antoine Roquentin, on 24 May 2016 - 19:00, said:

 

 

I'm a Weak town doctor, so if I target scum with protection I would die, so add Mandarijn to that list.

 

@thewarrior would this be anti-town, such as mafia or SK, or anti-town by your definition.

Are you asking if a weak modified player would die any time they target a SK or mafia member?

[iSocialism]

The Warrior, on 24 May 2016 - 19:26, said:

 

iSocialism, on 24 May 2016 - 19:06, said:

 

Antoine Roquentin, on 24 May 2016 - 19:00, said:

 

 

I'm a Weak town doctor, so if I target scum with protection I would die, so add Mandarijn to that list.

 

@thewarrior would this be anti-town, such as mafia or SK, or anti-town by your definition.

Are you asking if a weak modified player would die any time they target a SK or mafia member?

 

A weak doctor dies when he protects and anti-town player, What causes this player to be consider anti-town?

[The Warrior]

Targeting anything other than a townie would result in the weak modified person's death.

[Canik]

w00t w00t, Godfather dead and lots of helpful info being revealed. If not for the inactives I'd say we have this in the bag, but they leave a fairly big variable in play.

I'll review some past wagons / conflicts later and post my top scum suspects.

Lyner is still pretty high up there at the moment. Still not giving any info, but acted like he had a role that might give some info. What is it, day 5 now?

[KevinH]

Vote: Avater

 

Is it time yet?