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[D34THBR1NG3R]

Ok so that's four votes and you can trust me when I say the scum are all voting for me, but of course they will try and get the town to vote for another town after me, but of course you will need to make your own mind up on this, i welcome lynching because it will show you all I was right about COD and Preston being both scum, also I'd add Death to that list.

Remember your power is in your vote.

Hahaha you can't just add whoever voted you to your scum list. Maybe so many people wouldn't vote for you if you actually explained everything instead of doing a whole "poor me" or "i don't care, you'll find out later" type of BS. If anything you adding me to scum list just for voting you based on valid reasons makes me even more suspicious of you

[Ali bin Turban]

Oh and BTW, Rhizo...let's just play a logic game.

 

Jumping on KevinH's wagon was bad...and let's assume that if I were a scum I'd try to hide that fact (let's assume that, even though it's ridiculous because you can't hide things like that)...but there's other more important question:

Why would I jump on KevinH in the first place? I was safely sitting on a 3 man wagon that had no chance to succeed (therefore I wouldn't take part in lynching town). If I were a scum and knew that KevinH and Rafay are both town and one of them is going to be lynched for sure...why would I act? Why would I jump on KevinH's wagon and try to make it dominant one? To make myself a suspect when guy I jumped on inevitably turns out to be town? That's not optimal play, to say it lightly.

[legoboyvdlp]

I just don't have a good feeling for lynching Wolfpacks. He certainly seems scummy. But we can't afford to lose a PR which he hinted at. OTOH he knows that and could be playing that card.

But now I look at it, he's getting really defensive, not really awnsering questions, might as well take the risk since he does act scummy and join the bandwagon

Vote Wolfpacks

I feel that if we lynch today we have a good chance of winning, if we mislynch we'll probably lose.
Doing the sacrifice isn't townie at all. I know that now. More scum points to Wolfy.

L - 3 or deadline.

[Rhizoctonia]

Ok so that's four votes and you can trust me when I say the scum are all voting for me, but of course they will try and get the town to vote for another town after me, but of course you will need to make your own mind up on this, i welcome lynching because it will show you all I was right about COD and Preston being both scum, also I'd add Death to that list.

Remember your power is in your vote.

 

 

I highly doubt all scum are voting for you.  That would be pretty ballsy to do for now 4 of the scum to sit on your lynch.  I at least feel D34th is likely town...the other 3 I range from townish feel to undecided, so there could be scum there.

 

But as I already pointed out, I have to examine the other wagons going on besides mine, as I can see them as a distraction off mine.  I know Canik's vote on Lego was, and I also know Maz's was another.  Preston looked to downplay my arguments on Canik, and he then started on you, with CoD quick to follow, and now 2 more have joined.  I've been watching both Preston and CoD more, because of their fate in my eyes rests on what you're.  If you really are town, then Preston jumps from town to scum, CoD changes for not sure to scum.  

That being said, there are things that you've done that certainly warrant suspicion.  Is this because you're scum, or has Preston just found the best town to look to get lynched because of their actions and look to take heat off his scum buddy Canik.  

 

So here's what I know as fact/almost certainty:

 

Kevin - Town

Lego - Town

Maz - Town

Me - Town

D34th - very likely town

 

Likely good candidate for scum if wolfpacks is town:

 

Preston - #1

CoD 

Isocialism

 

Which if that's the case, my list changes, at least changes a town person to scum (preston), and opens up more room on my townie list.  Samus is currently on my town list atm, though he's yet to contribute, which I find odd.

I currently have 5 pretty confirmed townies in my book, which leaves 10 others left, 5-6 are scum.  Not the best odds, but it should help some in who town should look at and not look at.  I feel confident in 2 of the scum, so now you're down to 3-4 more scum with 8 left

 

So who you're Wolfpacks plays a role in who goes where.  If you're town, that makes my feel confident in 3 confirmed scum (Canik, 1cecream, Preston), with CoD and Isocialism possibly rounding them off.

 

So break down:

 

Canik - Scum

1cecream - scum

Preston - Currently on town list, but has looked to downplay my suspicon of Canik and has started another wagon.  Has become suspicous a tad to me  He's scum if wolf is town

CoD - Been mixed on, if WP comes up town he shifts to likely scum

Isocialism - He's back to his normal type of play.  He's been fairly quiet each day now...falling back to how he played as scum. Last few games he was more active and was town.  If WP comes up town, it shifts to scum

SM - Uncertain on.  However brought up Maz shortly after Canik referenced him, looked like an attempt to maybe push towards Maz

Samus - Given him townie points, but hasn't posted I dont think once today.

FB - Leaning more town for me

ABT - Has voted with me yesterday, mixed on.  

Wolfpacks - Uncertain on...has been suspicous, his wagon is growing quickly...starting to not believe all town are on it

[Ali bin Turban]

One more note, if KevinH is indeed a town's Tracker than scum are likely to have ninja (just as in the last game - town had 2 watching PR's and mafia got ninja), therefore KevinH's observations are at this point useless, since he could observe a VT, a standard goon (this is possible even when mafia don't have ninja) or a ninja.

 

Secondly, I think the most townish way for KevinH to act would be mentioning who he tracked but not saying the results. This way he will be able to confirm himself as a town (assuming there's no mafia tracker) if he happens to track PR (for instance KevinH claims that he's tracked MR X on N3. IF MR X turns out to be PR he now may verify if KevinH is indeed a tracker by asking him what exactly did he saw on N3).

[Rhizoctonia]

 

 

 

I find it odd you looked to copy the vote/wagons when you weren't on Kevin's.

 

Rafay (6): KevinH, Canik, Lyner, legoboyvdlp, D34THBR1NG3R, 1ceCream

KevinH (6): Preston, iSocialism, Rhizoctonia, Chaplain of Death, Samus, Ali bin Turban

legoboyvdlp (2): Sister Midnight, Mazuurek

First of all I've mentioned in the text I've voted on KevinH. My reasoning that Finster is probably a town was based on that very fact so you can't say I tried to hide it.

Secondly I believe I've copied TW's summary and it was from a moment wagons started to shift. Your wagon information for example faulty too, since it does not show Finster's vote.

I'm still skeptical of Canik, however Wolfpacks' behavior can't be ignored. He has all but admitted to lurking because he doesn't have anything to add. Very scum maneuver, so in the absence of a better candidate;

 

Vote Wolfpacks

 

Also going to throw an FoS on ABT because as Rhizo pointed out, he's presenting a very favorable view, for himself, of how yesterday came down. I am very suspicious anytime someone attempts to misrepresent the facts.

Here you came again latching on others back and posting accusation (just like you did on D1). And again you're wrong...and again will you be trying to explain yourself that you didn't read what I've written?

BTW...as you see I've not been participating much recently. I don't see it changing anytime soon, so I've asked TW to get a replacement.

 

 

 

You would be correct.  You did mention it, I just found it odd of when you copied it, which I feel people are going to focus on more.

 

Sorry to see you not be able to play, you asking for a replacement at least explains some of your difference this game then in others

Oh and BTW, Rhizo...let's just play a logic game.

 

Jumping on KevinH's wagon was bad...and let's assume that if I were a scum I'd try to hide that fact (let's assume that, even though it's ridiculous because you can't hide things like that)...but there's other more important question:

Why would I jump on KevinH in the first place? I was safely sitting on a 3 man wagon that had no chance to succeed (therefore I wouldn't take part in lynching town). If I were a scum and knew that KevinH and Rafay are both town and one of them is going to be lynched for sure...why would I act? Why would I jump on KevinH's wagon and try to make it dominant one? To make myself a suspect when guy I jumped on inevitably turns out to be town? That's not optimal play, to say it lightly.

 

Well, I would answer, a scum may rather lynch a active player then Rafay.  Rafay could be an easy target next day as well, as you see Canik tried to do with Lego.  You being on that lynch even if it happened doesn't necessarily target you, yes you'd be apart of it, but with many others as well.  Look at how many were on Rafay, it's hard to detect solely from that whose scum.  One could also fear not being apart of either wagon could look like a scum looking to avoid being associated with anyone who stands a chance (someone has mentioned about me on 1cecream at the end)

One more note, if KevinH is indeed a town's Tracker than scum are likely to have ninja (just as in the last game - town had 2 watching PR's and mafia got ninja), therefore KevinH's observations are at this point useless, since he could observe a VT, a standard goon (this is possible even when mafia don't have ninja) or a ninja.

 

Secondly, I think the most townish way for KevinH to act would be mentioning who he tracked but not saying the results. This way he will be able to confirm himself as a town (assuming there's no mafia tracker) if he happens to track PR (for instance KevinH claims that he's tracked MR X on N3. IF MR X turns out to be PR he now may verify if KevinH is indeed a tracker by asking him what exactly did he saw on N3).

 

 

You would be correct. There is very well likely a Ninja, there are most certainly going to be goons with the amount of players (there was last game with less players), and my guess likely a Godfather, as that is a role that has some up every game of TW's.  

 

Ok so that's four votes and you can trust me when I say the scum are all voting for me, but of course they will try and get the town to vote for another town after me, but of course you will need to make your own mind up on this, i welcome lynching because it will show you all I was right about COD and Preston being both scum, also I'd add Death to that list.

Remember your power is in your vote.

Oh please, please come up with something better than that, Wolfy.  I so don't want to vote for you, but playing the martyr card makes me want to vote for you.  Please can you try to convince me as to why everyone is wrong here?  Please!

 

 

Everyone is wrong?  Do I not matter, because I've yet to vote him

For the "if we knew then what we know now" file:

We know now

Madam Pomfrey (Lyner) a Hogwarts Doctor was knocked out on night 2.

but at the end of Day 1

 

Lyner (3): Rafay, Preston, Chaplain of Death

 

 
Preston and Chaplain of Death were trying to lynch someone we now know is townie.

 

 

Kevin's analysis may actually be something worth looking at after wanting to slam my head at times with it.  

[Finster Baby]

TW's MO is to include a ninja. He's had one in every game we've played so far.

I'm this |--| close to voting for Wolfpacks...

[Rhizoctonia]

I just don't have a good feeling for lynching Wolfpacks. He certainly seems scummy. But we can't afford to lose a PR which he hinted at. OTOH he knows that and could be playing that card.

But now I look at it, he's getting really defensive, not really awnsering questions, might as well take the risk since he does act scummy and join the bandwagon

Vote Wolfpacks

I feel that if we lynch today we have a good chance of winning, if we mislynch we'll probably lose.
Doing the sacrifice isn't townie at all. I know that now. More scum points to Wolfy.

L - 3 or deadline.

 

 

You disappoint me

[Ali bin Turban]

Well, I would answer, a scum may rather lynch a active player then Rafay. Rafay could be an easy target next day as well, as you see Canik tried to do with Lego. You being on that lynch even if it happened doesn't necessarily target you, yes you'd be apart of it, but with many others as well. Look at how many were on Rafay, it's hard to detect solely from that whose scum. One could also fear not being apart of either wagon could look like a scum looking to avoid being associated with anyone who stands a chance (someone has mentioned about me on 1cecream at the end)

 

Townie lynch is a townie lynch (4 townie lynches and we've lost, no matter if we lynch actives or inactives). Secondly how helpful was that active player? If Rafay got lynched on D2 without KevinH making RC, we would be seeing KevinH bandwaggon today, due to his playstyle he gets called out for every game.

 

Anyway, to make a vote while I've a bit of time:

 

vote Canik

 

When he voted on Lego on D3 I was like "where have you been when I needed you on D1-D2?". And his explanation was quite odd - especially about being "afraid" to push for a lynch of someone new (no offense, but that's probably the worst explanation I've seen so far), or when making such selective quotes of Lyner, who was one of the Lego's stronger defenders (along with Rhizo and Samus). I'm also thinking Wolfpack might be a counterwagon to protect Canik from the lynch (CoD and ISoc votes made me suspicious of that)...of course we might be lucky to nail 2 scums at the same time, but I'm not comfortable with CoD at the moment. 

[Mazuurek]

split between staying on canik or to vote for wolfpacks

[Rhizoctonia]

 

Well, I would answer, a scum may rather lynch a active player then Rafay. Rafay could be an easy target next day as well, as you see Canik tried to do with Lego. You being on that lynch even if it happened doesn't necessarily target you, yes you'd be apart of it, but with many others as well. Look at how many were on Rafay, it's hard to detect solely from that whose scum. One could also fear not being apart of either wagon could look like a scum looking to avoid being associated with anyone who stands a chance (someone has mentioned about me on 1cecream at the end)

 

Townie lynch is a townie lynch (4 townie lynches and we've lost, no matter if we lynch actives or inactives). Secondly how helpful was that active player? If Rafay got lynched on D2 without KevinH making RC, we would be seeing KevinH bandwaggon today, due to his playstyle he gets called out for every game.

 

Anyway, to make a vote while I've a bit of time:

 

vote Canik

 

When he voted on Lego on D3 I was like "where have you been when I needed you on D1-D2?". And his explanation was quite odd - especially about being "afraid" to push for a lynch of someone new (no offense, but that's probably the worst explanation I've seen so far), or when making such selective quotes of Lyner, who was one of the Lego's stronger defenders (along with Rhizo and Samus). I'm also thinking Wolfpack might be a counterwagon to protect Canik from the lynch (CoD and ISoc votes made me suspicious of that)...of course we might be lucky to nail 2 scums at the same time, but I'm not comfortable with CoD at the moment. 

 

 

 

Someone sees the light.  I do hope you stay until at least the night before you're replaced though whoever you vote for. Be hard for a replacement to come in with 2-3 days with and know what's all gone down enough to vote

split between staying on canik or to vote for wolfpacks

 

I'd suggest you stay

[Rhizoctonia]

At this point, I feel town has gained enough information from moves and things to use in the upcoming days.  I have a feeling I'm likely a kill target tonight, so I have something to say.  I don't have the time to write up all my thoughts, but I'd suggest WP not get lynched before I do.  There's not 8 scum, so any town should hold off with WP wagon until I have time

[Chaplain of death]

I didn't vote for you ABT because i didnt think it warranted a vote, nor do i really think it was done intentionally. You referenced what you were talking about, however, it could also be taken as an attempt to downplay your actions and highlight the actions of others.

I mentioned it in hopes to draw you into addessing it which highlights your actions, much the same as Rhizo did. You can't cover up what you did, but you can minimize it by drawing the towns focus to other things. This puts you on the hot seat which gives us more opportunities to analyze your behavior.

[Rhizoctonia]

And by something to say, I mean important info. Will hopefully write up in few hours

[Canik]

 

Well, I would answer, a scum may rather lynch a active player then Rafay. Rafay could be an easy target next day as well, as you see Canik tried to do with Lego. You being on that lynch even if it happened doesn't necessarily target you, yes you'd be apart of it, but with many others as well. Look at how many were on Rafay, it's hard to detect solely from that whose scum. One could also fear not being apart of either wagon could look like a scum looking to avoid being associated with anyone who stands a chance (someone has mentioned about me on 1cecream at the end)

 

Townie lynch is a townie lynch (4 townie lynches and we've lost, no matter if we lynch actives or inactives). Secondly how helpful was that active player? If Rafay got lynched on D2 without KevinH making RC, we would be seeing KevinH bandwaggon today, due to his playstyle he gets called out for every game.

 

Anyway, to make a vote while I've a bit of time:

 

vote Canik

 

When he voted on Lego on D3 I was like "where have you been when I needed you on D1-D2?". And his explanation was quite odd - especially about being "afraid" to push for a lynch of someone new (no offense, but that's probably the worst explanation I've seen so far), or when making such selective quotes of Lyner, who was one of the Lego's stronger defenders (along with Rhizo and Samus). I'm also thinking Wolfpack might be a counterwagon to protect Canik from the lynch (CoD and ISoc votes made me suspicious of that)...of course we might be lucky to nail 2 scums at the same time, but I'm not comfortable with CoD at the moment. 

 

Wish you would've quoted me where I said I was afraid to push for someone new, I don't recall that. I might've though, I am a little reluctant to knock out a new player D1. You can think it's a lame excuse all you want but it's the truth. I'm a nice guy like that. Plus it wasn't the only reason. He was posting a lot whereas Rafay wasn't. He also gave a response to my pressure that gave me some pause, saying he was ready to die if it helped town. Lots of people disagree with me on this it seems but you can look back at my old games and I have said before VTs shouldn't care so much about protecting themselves and I will continue to hold that belief until I'm given a good reason to believe otherwise.

Also on the Lyner quote, I said Lego was a good choice since he had already roleclaimed. If we pushed other targets we could make other town reveal their roles which is bad. And obviously at worst Lego would turn up VT. It was a good choice because it was a safe choice. Rhizo said this was the scummiest thing he ever heard! So I quoted Lyner who was town and had said something very similar, which proves Rhizo wrong. I never said that Lyner had Lego at the top of his list and that's why we should vote for him or anything like that. That was not the point of my quote, so Rhizo's 'counter-quote' was a moot point.

So why are you voting for me again?
 

[Sister Midnight]

Ok, I am very interested to see what Rhiz has to say.  Up until his last post it felt to me like he was being a bully.

[Preston]

Friday Friday - finally have some time to do more than just skim the thread on my phone.

Much of what's happened since my last appears to consist of Wolfpacks digging himself in deeper with his snapping reactions and people moving towards recognizing that he is worth looking at - or alternately they could just be votes shifting to a wagon that looks like it has traction.

This post from Rhizo (snipped somewhat for brevity) appears to be relevant:

But I'll make a general observation and that I'm starting to think Preston/CoD and I maybe hitting on both scum and scum are trying to figure out what to do next.
 
The fact by D2, there were all kinds of votes and wagons by this time with many people on them makes me think both Preston/CoD and I are likely onto something, just different people.  If either of us were voting a town...I would bet we'd see more action and votes happening by now.  What I see is a scum pushing a lynch on a VT while simultaneously looking to push suspicion on Maz as well, with the likes of Wolfpacks and SM a bit looking to hint at Maz being someone to maybe go after and seeing if gains any traction, with now Wolfpacks voting CoD.  Kevin's on Maz as well, but I am just counting that as a misguided town at this point with me still believing his RC.

It is indeed quite possible that both Canik and Wolfpacks are scum, as I previously posted. The wagon on Wolfpacks sat with just CoD and I on it for a VERY long time, which matches Rhizo's assessment. It is only recently that we saw a sudden shift of votes towards Wolfpacks, and we can now examine that rush where iSocialism, D34TH and Lego moved their votes as it represents people taking sides more solidly between what appear to be the day's two main wagons.

Wolfpacks' wagon currently stands at: Preston, CoD, iSocialism, D34TH, Lego.

Preston: My vote for Wolfpacks started after the 1ceCream wagon rose and fell, and Rhizo + Lego jumped to a new wagon on Canik. I commented on D2 about Wolfpacks' no-lynch vote being notable, and going into D3 with no new information that held the most weight for me.

CoD: It is not lost on me that CoD has been largely supporting my arguments throughout this game. I would like to think that he simply sees the validity of what I am saying, and that if we were actually a scum team together there is no way it would be anywhere NEAR that blatant. However beyond his initial vote, CoD's conversations with Wolfpacks have played a key role in demonstrating that Wolfpacks will stop lurking and respond when challenged - nevermind that at the time Canik's wagon was still further than his 3:2.

The recent addition of iSocialism, D34TH and Lego onto the wagon is relatively recent - all of it happened today.

iSocialism: His vote for Wolfpacks was phrased as pressure so Wolfpacks would not ignore his prodding, prompting Wolfpacks for more defense than he has offered. I don't disagree with the statement that we probably have a lot of town on town bickering going on, however.

D34TH: Appears to have been convinced by the back-and-forth between CoD and Wolfpacks

Lego: I find this particular vote to be notable given how quick Lego was to support Rhizo's Canik analysis and urge others to vote. Due to Lego's towniness, it would be difficult to call this a scum jumping wagons... which suggests there is either enough valid concern about Wolfpacks to have convinced him, or that Lego is somehow scum and has fooled us all... I'm hoping it is the former and not the latter.

Five votes is not eight; there is enough for a lynch at deadline, but unless three MORE votes also shift rapidly then we are not in danger of the day ending prematurely. I do hope to see more conversation over the weekend, especially with Rhizo now stating that he has more information - which sounds like a roleclaim tease. If so then I hope it will inject some actual INFORMATION into the mix, because up til now we have only had vote and behavioral data to work off of - however please be VERY careful if you do have a role to claim, because with a doctor dead and no backup guaranteed you could easily put yourself in front of Kevin in the scum's sights - so hopefully whatever information you have will point directly to one or more scum to balance that out.

In the meantime however I'd like to address a point Rhizo has repeated - he states that I look to /downplay/ his suspicions about Canik. My initial post on the matter was on the heels of Rhizo posting like this to Canik:

Please show me all the analysis you've done this game?  Please show me all the pressuring you've done?  I'd love to see all the thoughts you've posted over now, 2 weeks of gameplay or so?  Congrats, for the first time you posted links to explain your vote.  A vote...on someone I and seemingly many believe his RC and you looking to further waste this day arguing over this again rather then town actually focus on scum.  Instead of actually looking to find other scum if you truely believe he's scum, you instead just go with the easy vote and instead don't actually care to look into anyone else.

So with this charged personal-argument style in mind I was more inclined to dismiss Rhizo's zeal for Canik the first time I looked at it, in favor of what I felt was a more valid target. For my following post however I had more time to examine what Canik did that caught Rhizo's attention, and I agreed it had some valid points if you take as given that Lego is town - which is far from dismissing it. However it does not change that I still feel Wolfpacks has demonstrated more concerning vote patterns and behavior when challenged than Canik has, hence my maintaining my vote where it is.

I've also seen a few repetitions of what it will mean if Wolfpacks is town, which is a point worth considering. At this point I am strongly hoping that is NOT the case, and of the D3 wagons I feel we have the best chance of finding scum on this one - pending whatever Rhizo has to add that may change that status, of course. I won't deny that I started the Wolfpacks wagon, and I understand the implications that brings if it results in a mis-lynch - but it is better to look broadly for scum and take that risk than to just bandwagon on whatever suspicion someone else starts and use them as cover. I have been very clear as to why I think suspicion of Wolfpacks is merited, and at this point four other people agree - but this does not mean we can't be wrong.

I'm going to cut short this wall of text here, but I am very curious to see what Rhizo will have to add to the conversation when he posts again.

-Preston

[legoboyvdlp]

Well said Preston.

Gnight

[Rhizoctonia]

So anyway, I wanted to present my info I have to give and put my input on what this all means for the rest of true town.  It's maybe not the best move to make for myself to present this, but nonetheless I think town need some help as we're down 3 townies so far...2 PR's dead, another exposed with Kevin, and a VT role exposed with Lego.  

 

Town still has a shot, but nonetheless town need to be smart from this point forward.  Cant rely on PR's to win it for you

 

What I have to present is the Canik is 100% scum.  I used my cop power last night on Canik and got

 

Result: Non-Helpful Hogwarts Student/Staff

 

 

My role: You are Professor Lockhart, a Hogwarts Jack of All Trades

 

I started out today knowing Canik was scum, and a big gut feeling that 1cecream was scum.  I was hoping that I could get enough town to vote 1cecream, we knock him off today, and I use my vig kill on Canik tonight, and knock 2 scum out.  Unfortunately I only got Lego interested in my wagon on 1cecream, and tbh, the lack of votes on 1cecream everytime I've put him up makes me think I'm likely right about him, plus what I've presented in the past and him staying away from posting here but seen him logged on forums.  But then Canik wanted to start trying to play the aggressor and look to lynch Lego, and honestly, Canik is a smart player and a lot more active then 1cecream that I think he needs to go before tomorrow comes and he looks to swing some of our easy persuadable newer players.  I tried to push a lynch on him, but all roads seem to be going to Wolfpacks, as Lego left my wagon to join Wolf, and I have a feeling Canik was going to remain quiet the remainder of the day to prevent me calling him out anymore.

 

I've been very vocal, and though I may not be 100% correct on anyone, I have been the main pusher on people, and I have a feeling I may of gotten lynched tonight, so I wasn't going to die without saying it, nor am I going to have us mislynch tonight.  

 

So if I do die tonight, I wanted to make sure I gave all the info I can

 

100% Scum - Canik

 

Verified and 100% town:

 

Lego - His RC, anyone tries to refute this anymore town should look to lynch them + Canik tried to just get him lynched

KevinH - RC, I believe 

Maz - I can say without a any doubt he's town.  He was quick on my wagon on Canik...no scum would jump on a wagon of fellow scum that quickly.  Canik also tried to add suspicion to him

Me - I'm town

D34th - Pretty sure town, though he's letting scum persuade him. 

 

There is 5 confirmed town out of 15 players.  That means there is 10 others, and at least half our scum.  Anyone looks to push a lynch on the above 5, I would look to lynch.  Town should not let any scum try to tell you differently.

 

AbT - I'm feeling likely he's town.  I was a bit weary of him due to his persona this game compared to others, but it seems he doesn't have time and looking for a replacement.  He's voted with me on 1cecream and Canik.  I certainly would be weary at this point of anyone trying to lynch him

 

Wolfpacks - Has made some suspicious choices.  It's his second game I believe, and I can understand him looking to change it up from his last because of the bad attention he got last game.  I'm starting to believe that he's telling the truth, as I think the wagon on him involves some scum currently.  I am leaning town for wolf.

 

Wolfpacks Wagon - Currently Preston, CoD, Isocialism, D34th, Lego

 

As I already stated, Lego and D34th are part of my confirmed town team, so knock them out.  However they're examples of why I feel the need to do this now, because of how easily they can be persuaded.

 

That leaves Preston, CoD, and Isocialism.  If I were a betting man, I'd say at least 1 if not 2 or all 3 are scum.  I see this as a possible distraction off Canik, and being the veteran players they all are, I could see them finding the most suspicious town person to go after.  Town be weary of them.  Kevin quoted that Preston and Canik were both trying to lynch Lyner D1, keep that in mind.  Not saying they'll are scum, as WP has done some odd things and could be town feeling that way, but I would wager 1 or more of those 3 are.  I find going off  my list, hard to imagine all 3 are town.

 

FB - Getting a town vibe, AbT who I also feel more townish atm has also made a remark on why he believes he was wrong on FB and that he think's he's likely town.  

 

SM  - Brought up Maz shortly after Canik did, been cautious of her.

 

Isocialism - Playing more like he did when he was scum.  Last game or so when he was town, a lot more active, a lot more scum hunting.  

 

Samus - Had town vibe, yet he's not posted but has posted in other forum areas over the past days.  I also saw him reading this very topic with no reply yesterday I believe.  I also called him out when Canik was trying to vote Lego today(D3), since he said before anyone voting lego on D2 was suspicious in his eyes, yet nothing.  Last game when he was town, he was all over everyone trying to scum hunt...this game he hasn't.  He's been dropped from my town list, but he was against Rafay lynch and Lego lynch so he is more favorable in terms of town.  

 

So to summarize:

 

Confirmed town:

 

Me

Lego

Kevin

Maz

D34th

 

Townie Vibe:

 

AbT

FB

Wolfpacks

 

Scum:

Canik - 100%

1cecream - fairly certain

 

Whose left:

 

Preston

CoD

Isocialism

SM

Samus

 

Hypothetically, if I was 100% correct, town has to decide out of the bottom 5 I just mentioned, who the other 3-4 scum are.  I like those odds.  Not saying I am though.  ABT/FB could be scum, but for me I feel townish atm, especially ABT with his voting.  I think the shift in wagon of Wolfpacks tonight is making me feel townish for him, same feeling I got with Rafay vote.

 

If there's a town cop or rolecop, I'd look into some of bottom 5 and/or 1cream to verify my feelings.  

 

I would keep a close eye on what Preston and CoD do.  Both veteran players, both are smart.  If they're scum, they will make it tough to know.

 

Be aware there is going to be a Ninja and a Godfather most likely.  They both have been in every game of TW's

 

Anyway, lynch the scum today, and see what tomorrow brings.  I feel I've provided a good analysis for town to look at going forward if I'm killed tonight.  I wanted to see where some went, the likes of 1cecream, FB, SM,  and Samus...but none have either cared to post and/or choose a person.  It's pathetic that we're 5 days after the start of this day and less then 1/2 have done any contribution, it took today for more people to seemingly come alive.  I'm going to be busy over the weekend with work, and I don't have time to wait for the likes of these to make their choice before I RC when by the next time I can spend time to post WP could be lynched...so I waited until the last moment I felt I could to do so.  Sucks because I wanted to see where they went in terms of votes, but I put my analysis of them that I feel without a vote.  

 

Also apologize to Canik.  I realize I came off a bit aggressive in nature towards you, and certainly wasn't meant in disrespect, simply I had known information from my investigation that I became quite blunt in some of my remarks.  Apologize for that, hopefully one game we're together either both town or scum. 

 

Spent way to long writing this up, need sleep, good night and happy Scum Lynching

[Sister Midnight]

VOTE: Canik