Imran Ehsan

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5 votes required to get lynched on deadline. Already had 5 votes with clueless SBG parroting away how he is sure I am scum and the sheep voting in unison as "i agree!!", "great post!!" "solid case SBG!". Dont think I had much chance without role claiming. Thats just trying too hard. If there are safe names, it will probably some side character, not a major character. Anyway, even if I dont get lynched today I have opened up myself to be NK'ed by one faction tonight because I had to role claim because of horiific reasoning and bandwagoning vote by sheep. Assuming you have a role, if you used it, who was it used on? I will try to give out as much info as I can if it becomes assured I will get lynched today (hopefully will be able to be online before kevin closes the day).

Thats just trying too hard. If there are safe names, it will probably some side character, not a major character. Anyway, even if I dont get lynched today I have opened up myself to be NK'ed by one faction tonight because I had to role claim because of horiific reasoning and bandwagoning vote by sheep.

Apart from you, all other votes on my wagon has been in the tune of "great points" "I agree" "solid case SBG" so if course these are indications of scum jumping on lynch wagons. lego has been posting a lot of distracting stuff and also made a pointless roleclaim and been jumping from wagon to wagon which is detrimental to town. so lego's activities is directly hindering the town to scum hunt, which was the reason for my tongue-in-cheek comment that he should be lynched. If i wanted him lynched I would have voted for him. So its funny you are trying to use this as an excuse to get me lynched. ^ point in case Already explained I could have voted either Samus or LS, both were on the same level of lurker level in my book. I had forgotten LS had posted he wont be available due to RL. Another flimsy excuse being reiterated by you, which I had already explained. None other raised any points. Most were in the tunes of "great post SBG" Maybe you should go back and read those posts again instead of making up stuff? Anyway since you are all being led away by a completely clueless SBG and I already have 5 votes on me, i am gonna make a partial role claim. My name is Luke Skywalker. I wont reveal my role but if you are town you know that you dont have that name and I dont need to let you know if Luke Skywalker is an important character or not.

I never felt like lego is scum. So normally anyone trying to build a wagon on him..thinking an easy town lynch is very suspicious to me. So all that back and forth aboutr lego being scum was not convincing to me..it was more who was pushing for his lynch. COD was quick on the lego wagon..so of course he is on my scum list. Now I see a quick little wagon forming on me based on this post..now to look closely at those who are trying to form the wagon there. based on SBG's post i meant ^ I actually forgot you made that post. Two biggest lurkers at that moment were Samus and LS in my book. I could have voted for either, I chose you because I voted Samus on D1 and Samus would be moaning about how I am trying to lynch him if I voted him a second time. So my vote went on you. wow..you are worse than Rafay. Kindly elaborate which of the points by SBG are "good". and your last line makes no sense. At this point I am thinking the town is better of if you get lynched..even though I am sure you are town. Beg to differ. He is completely wrong and makes a very flimsy case with no basis. So either he is scum or he is not really good at this game. Kindly elaborate the "good" point. So you want to get on the wagon with no reason but you are not thinking it may look scummy. Either vote to lynch and elaborate why you think I am scummy and say who you think is scummy. Your post is a typical scum post. FOS: MK I didnt pressure him. Brewers revealed that on his own. I am not getting what this "good" point is that everyone is parroting about. My reasons for voting COD have been clearly explained previously and also again in this post. Right. You asked what I meant when I said something about CODs posts are off. I have played with him quite a few times and I know how he posts. His posts in this game have been a little off which is suspicious to me. Normally he comes up with good reasons and makes deductive posts on who may be scum. But in this game I see him jumping quickly on an obvious townie wagon with not much explanation. that is off.

I actually agree with Samus. lego doesnt look scummy to me, more like an over-excited noob townie. CODs posts have been a little off. Also him trying to start to wagon on one of the potential lynch targets from D1. Lets see where this goes. Unvote Vote: COD

Agreed with Rhizos post. If lego and/or brewers arent lying, their role claims were completely unnecessary and detrimental to town. But I guess you get these when you have some inexperienced players. But other townies with PRs please dont role claim unnecessarily in order to prove your townliness. Only claim a role if you have something concrete to share based on your night actions.

I will park my suspicions of brewers for the moment. Unvote Lets bring out the lurkers or lynch them -> LordSunday and Samus. COD and SM are also very quite. Vote: LordSunday

This cant be the scenario. Read the Cupid role PM I posted. If vgm targetted TW, vgm does not become Lover with TW but anyone else targetting TW become Lovers with him and will die when TW dies. Lets say vgm targetted ABT TW cannot target ABT as he does not have the ability so TW was not Lover with ABT therefore TW's death was not due to Cupid action Much more like scenario is: vgm targetted TW and ABT targetted TW then TW and ABT become Lovers Mafia kills ABT, resulting in TW dying as well Werewolf/SK kills vgm

Actually going through the Cupid role again, I am gonna update my above proposed scenario. As per the Role PM link given by Kevin Cupid: During Night 1, you may PM me the name of another player. Every player that targets this player (except you) will become Lovers with them. So the updated scenario will be something like this in case of 3rd death due to cupid: Lets say vgm targetted TW at night ABT uses one of his JOAT roles on TW Mafia buddy of vgm kills TW which results in ABT dying as well Werewolf faction kills vgm However in this scenario it doesnt make sense why mafia buddy of vgm will kill TW on N1 instead of waiting for a few more nights. hmm.

"Killing doesn't stop the actions of the dead player" Read about it on the Natural Action Resolution page. OK then. So that opens up the possibility of cupid causing the 3rd death. It cupid was the cause, it would be something like this: VGM targets say ABT Mafia buddy of VGM kills TW Werewolf factions kills VGM which results in ABT dying as well. So no SK in above scenario. if there is no SK then that will mean brewers is lying. Vote: brewersalliance please do elaborate since you came out and claimed a role related to SK.

I dont think I have ever played as a SK, but I would think the SK would want to use his kill ability as often as possible to cut down town power roles as much as possible and to kill mafia as well, as his only chance of winning is when he can no longer be lynched by others. ps: I dont think the 3rd death was due to the cupid. If the cupid is killed N1, he was killed before he could use his ability on anyone, although this is something that kevin can clarify. @MOD: If a power role is killed, will his night action go through or not, i.e. does killing a power role mean he got killed before he could use his ability or is he killed after using his ability.

I am curious to know why you think a SK will not kill on N1

Ok my thought are there are definitely two factions + possibly a SK. Reasons: 1. Mafia cupid (vgm) killed -> there is a Mafia faction 2. Retired werewolf hunter (TW) -> means there is a werewolf faction 3. 3 deaths in the night -> Two faction kills + 1 SK/vigilante (possibly). Vigilantes are normally x-shot so its is highly unlikely vigilante used their kill ability on N1. Therefore 3rd kill by SK. Mafia/werewolf may have an extra x-shot kill ability too and hence my (possibly SK role) deduction 4. If there are 3 kills in N2 as well that confirms an SK presence (however less then 3 kills does not automatically mean no SK as SK may be even/odd or a doc may prevent a kill) 5. Werewolf hunter can't be killed by werewolf faction -> TW killed either by Mafia or SK 6. VGM killed by either SK or Werewolf faction So those are my thoughts for the moment. I will chew on those for a bit and do some digging on why these 3 specific players were targetted which will probably shed some light on who targetted whom.

very interesting night actions and kills. I need to look up some of those roles (cupid? werewolf hunter??) before i can comment on what my thought is on what happened in the night,

Why so inclined for lynches? You do realize that the only way town can win is by lynching? Unless of course you are scum and your method of winning is not dependant entirely on lynchings.

Inactives should be lynched. The earlier the better. Scum wont kill inactives because inactives are just 1 less vote for town to lynch scum. so they are nothing but a burden for townies. unvote Vote: Rafay when everyone is active lynch Rafay (oldbie mafia players will know why)

This is great. When I used to play last day 1 was always a clash between no lynchers and d1 lynchers with no lynchers almost always winning out. Good to see two lynch targets this game already and ppl taking sides and 0 votes for no lynches *wohoo* Good going guys. D1 lynch will give us some info going forward instead of 0 info with no lynch, even if we hit a townie. That said Samus should show up fast if he doesn't want to get lynched on d1 as he is also returning to the game after a long time. This is great. When I used to play last day 1 was always a clash between no lynchers and d1 lynchers with no lynchers almost always winning out. Good to see two lynch targets this game already and ppl taking sides and 0 votes for no lynches *wohoo* Good going guys. D1 lynch will give us some info going forward instead of 0 info with no lynch, even if we hit a townie. That said Samus should show up fast if he doesn't want to get lynched on d1 as he is also returning to the game after a long time. OK I don't know why things got repeated over there. That's why I have posting on my phone :/

Forgetting roles... How scummy brewers Yeah that looks pretty scummy to me. FOS: brewers dont worry, i just asked my buddies in my private mafia chat what my role was ;p lol jk Kevin PM'd it to me, so we are all good now Quick backpedal ftw?