Everything posted by Lyner
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Only two possibilities would present as options after my flip - the exact two I stated in the narrative you quoted If I were a vanilla scum I'd still not hammer a suspicious tracker that is one step away from death, why? Because I'm getting killed tomorrow and my friend will get a harder time winning the game. I am concerned with the three above.
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I'll say it again, a Tracker doesn't need to be Town. And there is a possibility that there is no cop, this is a closed theme mafia, after all. (I remember seeing the mod pointed that out in the past closed game). So you think the mod sent Town into a game with however many scum plus a SK WITHOUT some way of finding said anti-Town roles? Is this your stance right now? Because you know it's garbage. No cop =/= no investigative roles whatsoever, and if there are any they have their reasons for not coming out yet. But this doesn't mean that you, a tracker, is a Townie. And meh pushing to kill anyone always make them look scummy. Let me address the bolded first before we get into the bigger picture argument. The bolded is precisely what I'm afraid of. A hammer is a WIFOM bomb at this point. Two scenarios are equally likely:1. Scum may hammer me because - dead Town PR [bonus: investigator with a BP] OR 2. Scum may be on my wagon LOOKING FOR a Town derp hammer to set up tomorrow's mislynch. 4 possibilites exists: 1. You are scum and town hammered you. 2. You are town and scum hammered you. 3. You are town and a dunce hammered you. 4. You are scum and your friend sacrificed you. Out of the four only 1 really hurts the town, and it is pretty unlikely, so I'll leave your fate on our certainly unscummy mod claimed Casper's hand. This reminds me, how was your tracking last night?
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Nope, we may or may not mislynch yesterday without your gambit. iSoc breaking was the main reason he got lynched yesterday, and your gambit today have yet to sort out the scums but these aren't important so let's not dive more into it. I'll say it again, a Tracker doesn't need to be Town. And there is a possibility that there is no cop, this is a closed theme mafia, after all. (I remember seeing the mod pointed that out in the past closed game). This is called "active lurking" and is a VERY strong scum tell. So there's scum #2 on my wagon if I get lynched. They both came in and read the thread. Neither has a reason not to unvote in case of accidental hammer. They are both hoping for a derp hammer. Yeah. EM first. Lyner 2nd. Unless we have a vig. Then shoot EM and lynch Lyner. So you'd prefer me not giving you chance to speak at all? And what're you afraid of? If there is anybody who hangs you while we're in discussion he'll only kill himself the next day. Oh right, scum is afraid of death. You keep lying after blatantly told not to by the majority and leaked so many town informations without giving the town concrete clues, if you think you can escape again feel free to convince the rest of town. Forgive me if I missed any important stuffs
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VOTE: Yates Enough is enough :| I noticed that you claimed that Theo protected you last night after d3mon said so, plus the first post today implied that you didn't know that you were being protected. I let it slide because I want to see what kind of informations do you have, but another failed gambit? Any last words?
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You lookin' for me, Yates? Assuming everybody is telling the truth, then some things are pretty clear. EM got all night actions, which means he got doc's protection and scum's NK, and your watch, effectively proving he's town. You said there are 3 people that *supposedly* watched EM, Imran, d3mon, and X. Sim seems (ha) to know that Robert isn't scum. Therefore we need more of Imran/Sim/Yates :| If at least one of you lied, it is pretty chaotic so maybe more on that later :| And about our new neighborizer, I have a few ideas: -Maybe he got role-blocked on the first night? Anyone feeling role-blocked today? -A different kind? a one-on-one neighborizer maybe? -He does not exist at all. And I see no harm in revealing the neighborizer
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This what he said. also, seems there are quite a few explanations as to why there was no NK this night. either theo did a save on yates (unlikely imo) / yates is bp (even more unlikely imo), or simternity was targeted. anyone else willing to share anything else? Why unlikely? d3mon confirmed that Theo targeted Yates yesterday so it is actually likely. Also what does it have to do with Simternity? Do you mean Daniel?
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Good job But before that, there is a chance that the doctor saved the target instead so let's hear from Theo Does the mod told you that the BP is used? And iSoc's probably the SK, since you know, Freddy. I'm fine with lynching either (Imran/Robert), becareful tho, we have 10 people left. Incase there are 3 scum left, we can only afford 2 day-mislynch
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What do you think of my proposal to lynch off the wagon? Any thoughts? Anyone you are leaning towards? If so, why? Not if Mango and Theo are BOTH fake claiming scum [or at least anti-Town] AND there's scum off the wagon [since we aren't lynching the claimed PR's]. Assuming a 3 scum 1 sk setup, you are looking at 1:5 [20%] odds. Even if only 1 of them is scum, the odds are 1:3 [33%]. Off the wagon the WORST case scenario is ONLY 1 scum. That's 1:3 [33%]. If you guys think the neighborizer is usually Town? 1:2 [50%]. And that's assuming there aren't two scum off the wagon, which is absolutely possible. In other words, the WORSST case scenario OFF the wagon is just as likely to randomly hit scum [anti-Town] as the BEST case scenario for ON the wagon. Let's entertain this idea for a minute, though. You and Mango are both voting for Imran. Why Imran? Is it due to the Theo vote? Also, speaking of Theo, is this a normal level of engagement for him? For someone with a claim out on the table, his activity has been disappointing. I still don't get how you get those probabilities, care to explain it to the simpleton me? And I think you're mistaking me for EM, and yes Theo is like the second almost confirmed townie for me, and he is a potential doctor, and it's a provable role, voting him is terribad, and I love his persistence. I'm not familiar with Theo's gameplay. If I'm going one by one then the ones in my suspect list are: Imran, iSoc, killgor, Robert2424, and you iSoc, Robert and killgor falls under the same reasons, lurking and being reactive only when confronted. killgor gets a bit of town points because of the hammer, though I won't discredit a possibility of scum having a safe list of unused roles(I got those in my previous mafia play) And yeah Yates as I said before a Tracker isn't necessarily a townie- [KZ-04] GOOD END : House of Horrors