junkahoolik

no... he never actually role claimed... he just started to look like a panicked scum with nothing but the song: "i'm a protown power role but i won't say which" going on making him look in my eyes like a scum who didn't want to be counterclaimed by a real protown power role. AoD on the other hand claimed too early in the day and did a messy job at it too. he kept adding more and more information as time went on and it just seemed like he was making it up while he went alone. but with EM's claim, i think that he is a doc. i'm just not sure if he is a mafia doc (like the one CD talked about) or a townie doc. maybe he is helping the mafia until the summoner gets killed then he is free to win with the town... or maybe he has another summoner (i doubt it since then there would be too many power roles in the game). all in all i'm apprehensive about lynching him. he is a doc and docs can't protect against lynches. so whoever he protects, i think it is good for the town.

ya know, this summoner thingy really makes sense... i always though it was odd that the doctor was a golem not a healer (semantics wise). a summoner for EM and one for AoD are too much role wise. so they are probably controlled by the same person. but it can't be the whole truth... it's not really fair to the mafia to have just 1 scum in the game who can kill. the question is, is AoD on the town's side or not?? also, can a role delete posts?? i'm curious about this one since i seem to be missing a post from day 1.

that does make sense. and no, it was a question to kazio. i find it odd that he used the term summoner after the past few pages we only used the controller term.

also, falzis, CD has a point... why do you want to lynch a doc if there are no counter claims?? even with his odd coming out of the closet...

and i'll "vote: kazio cause i get the sense that he knows too much. until now we only talked about controllers. we used the same word for EM's and AoD's controller. i find it odd that you tossed in a summoner. also, seems like you're just skimming through the posts and not reading exactly what was said. and in the response to my thread, you seem to be trying to develop confusion. if it really had a basis, i wouldn't have questioned it, just accepted it. but i don't really think that is true.

honestly, i don't know why he put kazio on the trusted people list. mafia shouldn't know who the sk is. not a move i'd expect from a veteran like him... then again, a no kill isn't a move for a veteran like him either. so he's probably not scum. hmm...

heh... i got that... i was just expecting that after 2 whole days of gameplay and vote patterns the reason for a vote between 2 individuals wasn't something in the line of "ok, let me flip a coin"....

meh... voting for the sake of voting is just bad... provide a case please that we can all analyze. that way maybe i have something to say... this "i'm voting you for the sake of voting" argument on day 3 is just... meh...

what?? when did this happen?? did he give any reasons?? Lack of time etc. On a side note: if anyone knows of someone willing to replace drop me a line.

well, i've been thinking, has anyone seen theo lately?? i'm casting absence FOSon him...

well, considering what Em, SJ and Aod said, now i do believe his role claim. i just don't know who is scum... CD does a really good job at following the cop... so i think he's protown. mole, haven't heard from him today... the rest i really don't know what to believe about them.

uum... EM didn't nk cause he got lynched... and why give so much power to the mafia?? if they are indeed the ones controlling EM, wouldn't that mean 2 kills/night?? the only explication i found for EM's post that someone is controlling him is that there are 2 sk and someone is controlling them both. and he has only 1 night action. that's it... other scenarios are just too complicated to be true. but that could mean quite a few power roles like... maybe... trackers and watchers... or maybe not frankly, i'm confused

i don't really buy that "someone is controlling my actions" post from EM. in a 12 person game the usual number of scum is 3 right?? so if there is a scum faction made of 2 scum and a sk we have that number. but if someone is controlling the sk we can't really call that person townie. so it would mean 4 scum in this game. that's a lot... even if they don't know each other, that's really too much.

same here. anyone know what happened to narsis anyway??

this adds a different twist indeed to the game. it looks as if we need to start looking for the person who controled EM. also, is EM a sort of a avatar for the scum?? or do they also vote for someone to shoot and Martino got hit on both sides?? cause the 1 nk doesn't make sense to me with EM being a demon who kills someone... also, AoD, does it say in your pm that you win with town?? or does the person controlling you have a different agenda??

vote Electric Mango reread and i decided to trust SJ. AoD, if you really are doc, protect him. if not, even better, the real doctor please protect SJ.

finally someone with some decent reasoning... unvote i will vote for EM after i reread all of SJ's posts again if i get the same feeling of him as CD. (lots of abbreviations ) also, i'm fosing Aquinas cause something seems odd about his long post.

considering the story of AoD being able to protect himself after he claimed when the issue of what will happen during the night after the lynch was done, to me it just looked as if AoD was trying to please the town with a made up story. i dunno why, but i'd rather trust mole on this one. well, i do actually know why and maybe i will share it at a later time.

i thought the basic rule of thumb in mafia is lynch all liars... since townies wouldn't need to lie and even if they would lie they would screw things up... so what's with this part??

also, falzis, you're right... you only stood up for kazio 2 times post 60 strongly against mole and post 82 as a response to me

i second his question...

not just that kazio... i counted that falzis helped you 3 times already. so if he is scum, there is a high probability that you are too. also, welcome Aquinas!!

a doc who has the ability to protect himself and who votes for himself when pressure is turned on him?? now this really starts looking scummy... i really don't believe your claim now... also, for the half majority lynch, truth is that in the last days of the "day", activity increases in any game. so the question would have been asked, answered and, then, he could have role claimed when it was absolutely necessary. i don't think a doctor would have role claimed so early in the day.

ya know, something seems off about AoD's claim. it bothered me since he did it. in short, i don't believe him. vote AoD

i don't think you had the half majority needed for a lynch and there was still enough time... i don't really know what to believe now...